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Late to the party, but I had to appreciate dwarves and dwarvenkind.



Agronor Aeducan (Male dwarf noble) was my first run-through of the game, and I tend to consider my first run-throughs the most 'canon', because I'm making decisions without any idea at all how they turn out in the game. I was completely caught with my pants down when Bhelen said, "Oh no, I'm too late to stop him!"



I understand how some people might find getting into the romances difficult, but from the moment I saw the dialogue option to sleep with both noble hunters, I decided to RP him as a bit of a playa. (Really paid off in getting the last few +Approval from Oghren on a trip to the pearl....) Was originally leaning towards Leliana, but Morrigan won out. I knew it would end badly...but that was part of the fun! (Though Anora was tempting...quite the stone cold fox...)



And being named living Paragon at the end of DAO ranks as one of my most triumphant moments in video games. I like to think Agronor could go back to Orzammer and straighten out Harrowmont, who screwed everything up.

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My DN didn't want to be Queen (she wanted to run off with the Grey Wardens) but did anyone ask her? Nooo! She changed her mind though after Bhelen framed her. She's put him on the throne and got her good name back. She also told the Shaper about the forged documents, thereby initiating an investigation into Vartog's house. She won the Glory Proving in her father's honour, is influential with the soon-to-be-Ferelden king (who she just dumped because theres no future in it) and is keeping her house shield & father's letter to be used at a later date.

What Bhelen is doing will strengthen House Aeducan so when my girl gets her revenge it will be very sweet. They do say revenge is a dish best served cold don't they?

What I don't get is that my girls journal says she failed a quest - for a son she doesn't have! Does the game assume all dwarf nobles are male??? 

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There are no Dwarf women.







At least that's what the journal says.

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Does the game assume all dwarf nobles are male???

Lots of origins randomly get that; it's a bug.



And yeah, my DN didn't see how she could be both a GW and Queen of Orzammar but then Bhelen went and helped her out with that...

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Elps wrote...


What I don't get is that my girls journal says she failed a quest - for a son she doesn't have! Does the game assume all dwarf nobles are male??? 


This actually bugs for male dwarf nobles, too, even if you've actually completed the quest.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

I'm also told that I'm 'missing out' by not romancing him as a non-HN but since him on the throne is non-negotiable for me, it will just end badly. I don't see the appeal of the 'tragic dumping for duty' and if anyone tries to suggest she be a mistress they will probably die painfully on the spot.

Just another idea to consider -- wasn't Calian having an affair with the Empress of Orlais? She was a ruler in her own right and was able to keep him around her finger. Being Alistair's mistress doesn't mean you're a kitchen servant waiting to be summoned to his private quarters. It just means you've got the attention of the most powerful man in Ferelden.

And furthermore, did you ever look down on Gorim because he could never be accepted as your mate, much less as a husband? No. If Gorim is good enough for you as a lover, why not have the same concept apply towards being Alistair's mistress? I don't think Anora is ever going to have a child and Alistair isn't likely to have one either. I don't think either of them will have a heir. So I would assume you'd still have Alistair all to yourself with him as sole king.

If Alistair is married to Anora, but is still in a romance with the warden, he has a line at the coronation ceremony that says, "Let her get her own conquering hero. I've got mine." I think that frames the relationship nicely. Alistair is king and the warden is a conquering hero and possibly a general of his armies. No way is she reduced to a mere mistress. ;)

Seriously, some players get too hung up on titles such as "princess consort" or whatever the term they get in the epilogue based on whether or not they actually slept with Alistair. Who cares? It's a freaking index card! =p

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ComTrav wrote...

Late to the party, but I had to appreciate dwarves and dwarvenkind.

Agronor Aeducan (Male dwarf noble) was my first run-through of the game, and I tend to consider my first run-throughs the most 'canon', because I'm making decisions without any idea at all how they turn out in the game. I was completely caught with my pants down when Bhelen said, "Oh no, I'm too late to stop him!"

I understand how some people might find getting into the romances difficult, but from the moment I saw the dialogue option to sleep with both noble hunters, I decided to RP him as a bit of a playa. (Really paid off in getting the last few +Approval from Oghren on a trip to the pearl....) Was originally leaning towards Leliana, but Morrigan won out. I knew it would end badly...but that was part of the fun! (Though Anora was tempting...quite the stone cold fox...)

And being named living Paragon at the end of DAO ranks as one of my most triumphant moments in video games. I like to think Agronor could go back to Orzammer and straighten out Harrowmont, who screwed everything up.

Heh, I was dubious of a human romance until 1) Alistair told me how hard I've worked in the Grey Wardens without complaining (that line worked on me) and he sealed the deal with 2) telling me that being a dwarf wasn't an issue, that he was actually worried that he might be too tall for me (like he was the freak, not me since I was peeerfect).

Paragon was one of the best moments in the game, aye. I have fantasies about returning with my Grey Warden army in tow and we're hacking and slashing our way in the Deep Roads to reclaim the lost dwarven empire, starting with the Aeducan Thiag. (Gorim is back in Orzammar keeping House Aeducan's affairs in order.) =p

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dwarves are only good as brawlers.



no finesse.

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Whoaah, this is the closest I've seen my dwarf get to having actual sex scenes and she gets BOTH Zevran and Alistair, hah haah!! This is actually still in beta and is meant to be tested with the human female first (otherwise it won't line up right on the other races), but I wanted to see how it played out on the dwarf. So far, it just opens with light banter and some kind of stripper dancing from the dwarf which makes Alistair pass out before it all goes black. More will be added later, obviously. Here are the PG-13 shots! I forgot to take the Zevran mod out for this so sorry if it's a little jarring to see him with a haircut.

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Mod link (not safe for work - not sure if you need to register to see it, you might):
http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1176

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Gilsa, link to that mod you use for Loghain and Morrigan please.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Gilsa, link to that mod you use for Loghain and Morrigan please.

Ack, I thought I included it in the original post. My bad!

Last Night With Morrigan
http://www.dragonage...ile.php?id=1142

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that zev/ali mod made me think of fic I read where an Aeducan gets to bang the pair of them regularly. Ah, good tiems. *is jealous of that writer, her dwarfsmuts are amazzzzing*

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Interesting way of putting it with Bhelen, heh.



Can't wait to read your scene when your DC meets him.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Interesting way of putting it with Bhelen, heh.

Can't wait to read your scene when your DC meets him.


you kind of have no choice but to go with Bhelen, to be honest-- if you're a DC, anyway. And Missa is going to not like the bastard, because well- he is oily, and she can see through duplicity. I always like to think Bhelen genuinely likes Rica, and/or appreciates her company. I think he's too narcassistic to love her though.Thanks for reading it though :)

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I disagree. I think he loves her, but like a politician loves his wife in real life, he can't show it.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. I think he loves her, but like a politician loves his wife in real life, he can't show it.


So that's why US politicians buy high class ****s. :P

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. I think he loves her, but like a politician loves his wife in real life, he can't show it.


see I got images of politicians with their wives on the front steps of their house in front of the press in a "public display" of support/love to showcase their relationship, especially during a scandal.

But yeah I agree with that you Bhelen can't show Rica affection due to her courtesan status. If she gets elevated to House Brosca thanks to her sibling's paragon status, however... It all changes.

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Siradix wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. I think he loves her, but like a politician loves his wife in real life, he can't show it.


So that's why US politicians buy high class ****s. :P


Well, she is technically a high class ****.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Siradix wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. I think he loves her, but like a politician loves his wife in real life, he can't show it.


So that's why US politicians buy high class ****s. :P


Well, she is technically a high class ****.


Rofl Can't argue with that.:lol:

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Siradix wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I disagree. I think he loves her, but like a politician loves his wife in real life, he can't show it.


So that's why US politicians buy high class ****s. :P


Well, she is technically a high class ****.


it's true! Noble Hunters are like geishas and not your common or garden duster wh*re, obviously. Still, you're negotiating affection, but... Well.

Ah Dust Town; you sre so sh*teous. A woman's worth is measured by what's between your legs if you're there. Oh sureeeee you can collect garbage, clean vents... You don't have to wh*re. But Noble Hunting seems to be the only valid way out... Short of being a Grey Warden of course. >.>

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soignee wrote...

Ah Dust Town; you sre so sh*teous. A woman's worth is measured by what's between your legs if you're there. Oh sureeeee you can collect garbage, clean vents... You don't have to wh*re. But Noble Hunting seems to be the only valid way out... Short of being a Grey Warden of course. >.>


Or you could do like your dad and bugger off to the surface.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

soignee wrote...

Ah Dust Town; you sre so sh*teous. A woman's worth is measured by what's between your legs if you're there. Oh sureeeee you can collect garbage, clean vents... You don't have to wh*re. But Noble Hunting seems to be the only valid way out... Short of being a Grey Warden of course. >.>


Or you could do like your dad and bugger off to the surface.


Indeed. But that's leaving dwarf society, and we wouldn't want that, would we?

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soignee wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Or you could do like your dad and bugger off to the surface.


Indeed. But that's leaving dwarf society, and we wouldn't want that, would we?


Btw. females have more hope for the future than the males. They can become thugs or chase nugs (tihi, it rhymes), or become one of the extraordinarily rare male noble hunters.

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soignee wrote...
Ah Dust Town; you sre so sh*teous. A woman's worth is measured by what's between your legs if you're there. Oh sureeeee you can collect garbage, clean vents... You don't have to wh*re. But Noble Hunting seems to be the only valid way out... Short of being a Grey Warden of course. >.>


If they produce a male child that is. If they give birth to a daughter, they are still stuck and the father basically has to abandon his own daugther, because he can't elevate her to his rank.

A very idiotic system. I hope Bhelen crushes it under his heel.  

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Herr Uhl wrote...

soignee wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Or you could do like your dad and bugger off to the surface.


Indeed. But that's leaving dwarf society, and we wouldn't want that, would we?


Btw. females have more hope for the future than the males. They can become thugs or chase nugs (tihi, it rhymes), or become one of the extraordinarily rare male noble hunters.


Technically, even males can be noble hunters and if they produce a daughter with a noble woman, he and the daughter should be elevated.
Not suire that exists though.