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[LostInSanity]

My first character was a Dwarf Commoner Rogue who feel in love with Lianna, and after 3 playthroughs he is still my fav!

DC Rogue FTW!

[Gilsa]

soignee wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

You don't have broke men offering themselves for a tumble there, do you? And let's face it, in a culture where Oghren can get lucky with reasonably attractive girls, sex can't be that much of a taboo.

yeah, I was shocked at how pretty Felsi was when I first saw her. I think literally uttered "Oghren you sly dog!" Outloud, or something similar. Maybe it's because he's good naked? Who knows...

(click link if you dare.... My thoughts went, thusly: "...Damn." To precisely: "OH GOD THAT'S OGHREN WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN-" )

NEEDS MORE PAPER!!

[Gilsa]

NOBLE HUNTERS CONTINUED

For male Aeducan, after talking with Bhelen about Trian and you part ways, the standard Gorim reminder is "Let's go. You don't want to keep your companion waiting."

If Aeducan tells Bhelen enough, he's not listening and then repeats himself, "I said I won't listen to this sort of talk!" Gorim beckons you away and says it's late, you need your rest. If you pick "I may sleep with my sword tonight," Gorim responds, "And I will be right outside the door." And ends with, "Maybe... a little farther outside the door. You probably don't want me listening in..." (VO: Speaker is referring to the character having female company that night. He is trying to make light of the situation, teasing his frind a little.)

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The next morning ....

(Click on Gorim in the thiag)

Gorim: "You're looking bright-eyed this morning, my lord. I trust you had a restful night." (VO: Teasing)
Gorim: "Feeling a little more... virile? Ready to slay the darkspawn with sheer masculine power?" (VO: Teasing)

1. You can't even imagine.
Gorim: "Oh, believe me, I was doing plenty of imagining." (VO: Teasing, amused)
---
(IF: PC_Sex_Teli) Gorim: "I was sort of hoping Mardy would take me as a consolation prize." (VO: Jokingly dreamy)
Gorim: "Anyway, we should keep moving. Genlocks aren't likely to stop and commiserate with my inadequacies." (VO: sniggering) *end dialogue*
---
(IF: PC_Sex_Mardy) Gorim: "I sort of thought Teli might come find me. She seemed pretty eager." (VO: Jokingly dreamy)
Gorim: "Anyway, we should keep moving. Genlocks aren't likely to stop and commiserate with my inadequacies." (VO: sniggering) *end dialogue*
---
(IF: PC_Sex_Both) Gorim: "I can't believe you didn't invite me." (VO: Jokingly hurt)
Gorim: "Anyway, we should keep moving. Genlocks aren't likely to stop and commiserate with my inadequacies." (VO: sniggering) *end dialogue*

2. Are you mocking me?
Gorim: "Would I do that, my lord?" (VO: Mocking)
---
(IF: PC_Sex_Both) Gorim: "I'm just amazed at your stamina. The servants said the screams and giggles went on all night." (VO: Joking)
Gorim: "Anyway, we should keep moving. Genlocks aren't likely to stop and commiserate with my inadequacies." (VO: sniggering) *end dialogue*
---
(IF: PC_Sex_Either) Gorim: "I'm just jealous of your good fortune. Nothing new." (VO: Joking)
Gorim: "Anyway, we should keep moving. Genlocks aren't likely to stop and commiserate with my inadequacies." (VO: sniggering) *end dialogue*

3. Shut up and let's just find the thiag.
Gorim: "Of course, my lord." (VO: Polite) *end dialogue*

Modifié par Gilsa, 07 avril 2010 - 06:39 .

[soignee]

I wanted noble hunters too

[Herr Uhl]

Gilsa wrote...

Gorim: "Feeling a little more... virile? Ready to slay the darkspawn with sheer masculine power?" 

I love that line.

[Sarah1281]

If Aeducan tells Bhelen enough, he's not listening and then repeats himself, "I said I won't listen to this sort of talk!"

Wait, what's the DN talking about? The noble hunters?

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

If Aeducan tells Bhelen enough, he's not listening and then repeats himself, "I said I won't listen to this sort of talk!"

Wait, what's the DN talking about? The noble hunters?

Trian, his conspiracy theories.

[Sarah1281]

So Bhelen 'warns' the DN about the conspiracy and if the DN plans to act first Bhelen insists he doesn't want to hear the details or is it the DN that doesn't want to hear that Trian might be plotting fratricide?

[Herr Uhl]

The PC has that line, so the latter scenario.

[Gilsa]

Right. Bhelen is warning the PC of the conspiracy and the PC doesn't want to hear it. Bhelen doesn't drop it so the PC gets firmer the second time and is all I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT OMGZ. Gorim will usher you away and this is the only time I've seen the option of the PC saying he'll sleep with his sword tonight.

[Sarah1281]

So is that all of Gorim's dialogue or is there anything else?

[Gilsa]

TRIAN MURDER SCENE (IF YOU KILL HIM YOURSELF)

Trian: "'Atrast vala, Sister/Brother." (VO: cold. "Atrast vala"= a-TRAST VA-la.  Hello, greetings.)

1. Where are the others?
Trian: "They will arrive soon enough. I wanted to see you first, to look into your treacherous eyes and tell you I know what you planned." (VO: Some disappointment and sadness, quite a bit of bitterness.)

1a. Where's your signet ring, Trian? *Go to tree #1*

1b. And what was that?
Trian: "Do you think I am blind?" (VO: Anger, hostility)
Trian: "I am the prince of Orzammar. I have eyes and ears everywhere!" (VO: Anger. Says this in a "are you stupid?" sort of way, but really dramatic.)
1b-1: I don't know what you're talking about. *Go to Trian's response in tree #2, line 5*
1b-2: What is it you think you know?
Trian: "Do you think I fear to name your treachery?" (VO: Challenging, scornful) *Go to tree #2*
1b-3: I have eyes and ears of my own.
Trian: "And do they tell you I am weak and ripe to be displaced? That I will be easily moved aside so you can sit on Father's throne?" (VO: Anger and hostility; the speaker can also sound a little hurt at being betrayed)
1b-3a : Yes.
Trian: "Then they are fools, and you have been used." (VO: This should be a blunt declaration. He really believes this statement.) *Go to tree 3*
1b-3b: You've got it wrong, Trian. *Go to Trian's response in tree #2, line 5*
1b-3c: How dare you accuse me. *Go to Trian's response in tree #2, line 5*
1b-3d: Shut up and fight me.
Trian: "I am your prince. I will not fight you." (VO: Haughty and superior) *Go to tree 3*

1c. I'm going to kill you, Trian.
Trian: "So you admit your foul intentions? Brazen. But my men outnumber yours." (VO: This should be said with a lot of hostility. Sneering would be nice.) *Go to tree 3*

2. Hello, Trian.
Trian: "I'm here. I am not, however, unaware or outnumbered." (VO: Some disappointment and sadness, quite a
bit of bitterness.)
Trian: "Disappointed?"

2a. I'm going to kill you, Trian.
Trian: "So you admit your foul intentions? Brazen. But my men outnumber yours." (VO: This should be said with a lot of hostility. Sneering would be nice.) *Go to tree 3*

2b. What are you talking about?
Trian: "Do you think I fear to name your treachery?" (VO: Challenging, scornful) *Go to tree #2*

2c. Where's your signet ring, Trian? *Go to tree #1*

2d. You're a schemer, Trian, but I'm better than you.
Trian: "So you admit to scheming against me?" (VO: Speaker says this with a note of triumph, because his sibling has admitted that he was scheming) *Go to tree #2*

3. You and I need to speak. Alone.
Trian: "Anything you have to say can be said here, in front of our men." (VO: Serious, challenging.)

3a. Where's your signet ring, Trian? *Go to tree #1*

3b. You're a schemer, Trian, but I'm better than you.
Trian: "So you admit to scheming against me?" (VO: Speaker says this with a note of triumph, because his sibling has admitted that he was scheming) *Go to tree #2*

3c. I'm going to kill you, Trian.
Trian: "So you admit your foul intentions? Brazen. But my men outnumber yours." (VO: This should be said with a lot of hostility. Sneering would be nice.) *Go to tree 3*

3d. You wish me to expose your plotting against me?
Trian: "You dare accuse me of your own treachery?" (VO: Speaker is indignant and insulted
by the gall of his treacherous sibling.) *Go to tree 2*

4. You're brave to come here without more men.
Trian: "Why? Is there a reason I should fear my own kin?" (VO: Some disappointment and sadness, quite a bit of bitterness.)

4a. Where's your signet ring, Trian? *Go to tree #1*

4b. You're a schemer, Trian, but I'm better than you.
Trian: "So you admit to scheming against me?" (VO: Speaker says this with a note of triumph, because his sibling has admitted that he was scheming) *Go to tree #2*

4c. I'm going to kill you, Trian.
Trian: "So you admit your foul intentions? Brazen. But my men outnumber yours." (VO: This should be said with a lot of hostility. Sneering would be nice.) *Go to tree 3*

4d. No, of course not. *Go to Trian's response in line 1b above*


TREE #1 -- "Where's your signet ring, Trian?"
Trian: "I... didn't wear it today. I didn't wish to risk losing it in battle." (VO: Speaker is caught off guard and is hurriedly trying to come up with an excuse for not having his ring.)

1. Likely story.
Trian: "Don't attempt to cast your dark shadows back on me." (VO: Speaker is insulted and indignant) *Go to tree 2*

2. You gave it to mercenaries so they could steal the shield.
Trian: "You dare accuse me of your own treachery?" (VO: Speaker is indignant and insulted by the gall of his treacherous sibling.) *Go to tree 2*

3. I am going to kill you, Trian.
Trian: "So you admit your foul intentions? Brazen. But my men outnumber yours." (VO: This should be said with a lot of hostility. Sneering would be nice.) *Go to tree 3*


TREE #2 -- "Do you think I fear to name your treachery?"
Trian: "You have plotted to murder me, so you could take my place as heir." (VO: Speaker says this accusingly, with a lot of scorn.)
Trian: "You convinced Bhelen to help take my men and me by surprise." (VO: Speaker says this accusingly, with a lot of scorn.)
Trian: "Do you deny it?" (VO: Challenging.)

1. You do have to admit it was a good plan.
Trian: "Throwing your and our family's honor in the fire of jealousy and power was a good idea?" (VO: Speaker expresses disapproval and disbelief at sibling's idiocy.)
Trian: "I am your prince and your elder brother! Every tradition, everything that makes us who we are, demands your loyalty to me!" (VO: Superior, commanding, haughty) *Go to tree 3*

2. It's just politics.
Trian: "Is that what you think this is? Some game?" (VO: Speaker expresses disapproval and disbelief at sibling's idiocy.)
Trian: "I am your prince and your elder brother! Every tradition, everything that makes us who we are, demands your loyalty to me!" (VO: Superior, commanding, haughty) *Go to tree 3*

3. You have no right to judge me, Trian.
Trian: "I have every right to judge you." (VO: Judgmental, disapproving.)
Trian: "I am your prince and your elder brother! Every tradition, everything that makes us who we are, demands your loyalty to me!" (VO: Superior, commanding, haughty) *Go to tree 3*

4. I'm just surprised you still came.
Trian: "I am a better warrior than you will ever be, girl/boy." (VO: Sneering, speaker is talking down to his sibling)
Trian: "Still, I will not give you the glory you so desire." (VO: Haughty, superior)
Trian: "I am your prince. I will not fight you." *Go to tree 3*

5. It's not true.
Trian: "Just stop. You have gone too far this time."
(IF: Dace_QuestComplete) Trian: "Selling your favor to Lord Dace, I could overlook." (VO: Scornful and sneering)
(IF: Provings_Fought) Trian: "Your grandstanding at the Provings, I could overlook." (VO: Scornful and sneering)
(IF: Dace_Beaten) Trian: "You showing off at the expense of elderly Lord Dace, I could overlook." (VO: Scornful and sneering)
(^all of above lines lead to:)
Trian: "That the nobles love you when you have accomplished nothing... this I have learned to forgive." (VO: Scornful and sneering)
Trian: "I know I will never be loved in Orzammar, but I will rule. Nothing, not even treacherous kin, will stop me from claiming my right." (VO: Speaker may be a little sad that he'll never be loved, but he believes he can be the strongest ruler of his people and this declaration should reflect his belief.) *Go to tree 3*


TREE #3  -- "Throw down your weapons and confess."
Trian: "You and your companions will throw down your weapons, confess your treason, and be tried in front of the Assembly." (VO: Speaker is commanding here, as though he does not expect argument.)

1. We will do no such thing.
Trian: "Then you will die here." (VO: Blunt declaration. No remorse.)
Trian: "May the Stone reject your unworthy, treacherous body." (VO: Absolute scorn, almost spitting. "The Stone" is said with a religious connotation -- may God reject you.)
Trian: "Kill the traitors!" (VO: This is a command to attack.) *End dialogue*

2. So arrogant, even at the end.
Trian: "It will be your end, Sister/Brother." (VO: Blunt declaration. No remorse.)
Trian: "May the Stone reject your unworthy, treacherous body." (VO: Absolute scorn, almost spitting. "The Stone" is said with a religious connotation -- may God reject you.)
Trian: "Kill the traitors!" (VO: This is a command to attack.) *End dialogue*

3. You're an idiot. *Attack*
Trian: "Kill the traitors!" (VO: This is a command to attack.) *End dialogue*

4. Very well, we surrender.
Gorim: "Are you sure you want to do this, my lady/lord?" (VO: Hesitant, unsure of what to do, respectful)

4a: It is the only way.
Scout: "Never! A warrior does not surrender meekly! Attack!" (VO: This should be said loudly, with a lot of conviction. Almost crazed.)
Trian: "Kill the traitors!" (VO: This is a command to attack.) *End dialogue*

4b. Now--while they're distracted. Attack!
Trian: "Kill the traitors!" (VO: This is a command to attack.) *End dialogue*

Modifié par Gilsa, 07 avril 2010 - 09:30 .

[Gilsa]

Sarah1281 wrote...

So is that all of Gorim's dialogue or is there anything else?

Do you want his lines if you do the ultimate sacrifice? I can't think of anything else.

Other notes I've found here and there:
-- He's in awe when he sees the Grey Wardens in the feasting hall and is excited.
-- Gorim would MUCH rather watch Provings than the game of poltics.
-- He's sincere when explaining that his grandfather's nomination into the assembly was an honor  -- it would be unthinkable for him to actually become noble. (This is when you ask him about his family.)
-- Proud and honored to be serving you as his father has for your father.
-- When you talk to the merchant that shows you the dagger, Gorim did not expect the dagger to be amazing, but it is and he is in awe.
"Whispers, indeed. It's a princely gift. If Trian recognizes it, though, it may send the wrong message." (VO: Thoughtful. Note of warning in his voice when he says Trian may recognize the gift.)
"Or the right one, depending on your view." (VO: Speaker should sound intrigued about how the gift may be percieved.)
When you accept the gift and merchant says you'll bring him honor:
"What he means is that you'll bring uncountable gold to him if you wear that piece in public." (VO: Dry, deadpan)

[Sarah1281]

Do you want his lines if you do the ultimate sacrifice?

What I want is for Gorim to have more lines but tragically he doesn't... I've only seen the DN ultimate sacrifice once, though, because the Archdemon is a pain to fight. He says something about how they're burying you next to your father, right? And Alistair seems to have forgotten when I explained that the dwarves don't burn their dead. It was interesting to note that apparently he had talked to the dwarf King (Harrowmont in this case) and they worked out a way to send troops even though Harrowmont won't accept it if you live.

[aimo_ahmed]

Ooh, Dwarf Represent Thread!

I feel kinda sheepish though that I discovered this when it's already 19 pages in T_T Bad forum dweller is bad.

Anyway, I have a major crush on both Dwarven Origins. I finished my Aeducan playthrough in Origins and Awakening, and mid-way through my Brosca. Below are how they look like, in-game and drawn:

Sorsha Aeducan

Played her as a conceited princess who was careless and complacent about her role in Orzammar politics. It bit her majorly in the ass eventually for a fratricide not of her doing, and she ended up on the surface where as a Warden she really grew up, her experiences stoking the fire within that was previously stifled from indifference/apathy.

Dario Brosca

Played him as a self-deprecating scoundrel who loved his sister very much, serving Beraht without complaint to keep her safe. When he went to the surface to become a Warden, he gradually discovered he was capable of much more than the thug he was in Dust Town, and is on his way to becoming a much needed hero of these dire times. (I named his dog Leske, which turns out to be the better buddy in the long run )

I love my Dwarves so much that they naturally became my frequent focus in fan art and comics, which you can see here. Currently the list is overloaded with Aeducan/Alistair, though I hope to have Brosca/Leliana start to play catch up soon.

Also, a big thank you to Gilsa for the invaluble effort of digging through data with the toolset. Learning about our favourite dwarves is such a treat, seeing how expansive the possible game paths can be.

*Dwarven fistbump*

[Gilsa]

Oh, thanks for the screenshots of your characters. I'm a big fan of your drawings and had wondered how they looked in the game in comparison to your drawings. I have seen random comments in different threads or groups with people saying that your drawings have inspired them to try out dwarves because they are so enamored with your Aeducan and Alistair fan art.

Edit: Happy to dig through toolkit. I love talking about dwarves. Plus I can see that this helps to inspire ideas for those who like to write fanfic! I still want to make a list of the dwarven lingo or curses that I find in the toolkit. Some of the VO descriptions are freaking funny when you see how they're trying to tell the speaker to curse!

Modifié par Gilsa, 07 avril 2010 - 10:12 .

[Gilsa]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Do you want his lines if you do the ultimate sacrifice?

What I want is for Gorim to have more lines but tragically he doesn't... I've only seen the DN ultimate sacrifice once, though, because the Archdemon is a pain to fight. He says something about how they're burying you next to your father, right? And Alistair seems to have forgotten when I explained that the dwarves don't burn their dead. It was interesting to note that apparently he had talked to the dwarf King (Harrowmont in this case) and they worked out a way to send troops even though Harrowmont won't accept it if you live.

Well, to be fair, the script is the same regardless of Alistair or Anora giving the eulogy. So he gets a small pass in not remembering how we bury our dead since Anora wouldn't really know that. =p

I'll go ahead and bring out the Ultimate Sacrifice dialogue tree for both Aeducan and Brosca. Might as well dissect the VO notes for those! (Plus I don't sacrifice any of my dwarves, hell no. That's what my elves are for, lol. Don't hurt me! Don't hurt me!)

Modifié par Gilsa, 07 avril 2010 - 10:19 .

[Herr Uhl]

That's right, kill those lanky bastards!

Have not sacrificed any of mine either, so it'll be nice to see.

Edit: and hai Aimo.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 07 avril 2010 - 10:30 .

[soignee]

BB aimo



*driveby dwarven fistbump*

[Sarah1281]

Well, to be fair, the script is the same regardless of Alistair or Anora giving the eulogy. So he gets a small pass in not remembering how we bury our dead since Anora wouldn't really know that.

You'd think an experienced leader would have the tact to ask before the funeral. I mean, if nothing else Oghren is RIGHT THERE. I can just imagine Harrowmont/Bhelen getting the news that the dwarf warden was dead and they were planning on cremating them and freaking out and sending Rica/contacting Gorim to stop it.

[Edrissa]

DWARF LOVE. Hai dwarven bros and sisters. I will share Natia (****-princess-with-a-common-name) soon as I can get some shots together.

[Sarah1281]

I will share Natia (****-princess-with-a-common-name) soon as I can get some shots together.

I did the same thing in reverse as I thought 'Sereda Brosca' sounded better than 'Natia Brosca.' Well, that and my DN already had a name.

[soignee]

Yeah I named Missa after Missy Elliott as that's what was on iTunes as the time >.>;
She definately don't want no One Minute Man. And she definately Gets Her Freak On... And totally Works It, obviously.
*fingersnaps*

Modifié par soignee, 07 avril 2010 - 11:02 .

[Kryyptehk]

My Brosca was named Norala, but she is in Delete Heaven:innocent:

My Aeducan that I'm playing is named Bolana. I usually just look up names on dwarven generators, I'm terrible at making up names.