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[Gilsa]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Yeah, what's with the bug fetish lately?

I don't know but today in the Zev thread was the redhead fetish day and it was glorious!

You don't even like redheads! Despite being one!

[Lady Jess]

soignee wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Hphm...I imagine your story is very popular among the Zevran fangirls. .

i don't think many people read my story actually, I just have very awesome friends/people who do and are all HERE HAVE ART. I think that since I'm a frequent poster here and kind of loud in DA fandom (I poke LJ too) my obnoxious personality takes over from the story, heh. "Oh! You. The dwarf lady who likes shoes! Oh hi."

I have! Unless there's a chapter 19 I'm all caught up.

[Lady Jess]

Gilsa wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Yeah, what's with the bug fetish lately?

Please elaborate.

OK, Sarah only posted one picture of a bug, but this page (not bugs, but still creepy) is just ... ugh:

http://social.biowar...ex/2202899/1272

Hey, mine was at least cute!...lol

[Herr Uhl]

Gilsa wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Yeah, what's with the bug fetish lately?

Please elaborate.

OK, Sarah only posted one picture of a bug, but this page (not bugs, but still creepy) is just ... ugh:

http://social.biowar...ex/2202899/1272

Oh, overgrown gråsuggor (I don't know the English name). You can find those buggers everywhere. They're crayfish.

[soignee]

woodlouse! Eeeeee

[Gilsa]

QUICK. STEP ON IT.

[Costin_Razvan]

You know...I don't have a problem with bugs.



But I was freaked by the isopod the size of bloody chips bag.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

And I don't appreciate calling Anora a ****, and their wanting to be able to kill her. So the feeling is mutual there.



Regarding Zevran, I made him a rapist some time ago. Obviously Gaider said he was not, but I simply did not know that at the time, and his whole story with the mage did sound like rape to me. "Shrugs" not that I really care what he did either way. He is genuine in keeping his oath, and I respect that greatly.

They take her at her word when she says 'Of COURSE I'll support Alistair even though the whole reason I made contact with you is so I could be Queen' and get pissed when she sides with Loghain. I've never done that but I heard it's quite vicious. And I forgot that was you...that thread was a bit disturbing...

Gilsa wrote...

OK, Sarah only posted one picture of a bug, but this page (not bugs, but still creepy) is just ... ugh

To be fair they were talking about bugs and I wasn't sure everyone would know what a cicada was. Lots of people apparently have never heard of google and can't just look these things up.

Gilsa wrote...

You don't even like redheads! Despite being one!

I don't like redheaded guys (with, what, two exceptions?) but the redheaded girls were very petty and I had lots of people telling me I was pretty so what's not to like?

Lady Jess wrote...

I have! Unless there's a chapter 19 I'm all caught up.

Me too even if I don't like reading sex scenes.

[Costin_Razvan]

They take her at her word when she says 'Of COURSE I'll support Alistair even though the whole reason I made contact with you is so I could be Queen' and get pissed when she sides with Loghain. I've never done that but I heard it's quite vicious.

Then they are idiots and this only enforces my opinion of them, and true enough about the thread.

Apparently Anora is a heartless shrew for being able to side against her father and take the throne even if he dies, despite the fact she will betray for doing EXACTLY that, and telling her about....she is also a criminal for siding with her father if want to kill him. The logic, it boggles the mind!

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 29 mai 2010 - 02:55 .

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

They take her at her word when she says 'Of COURSE I'll support Alistair even though the whole reason I made contact with you is so I could be Queen' and get pissed when she sides with Loghain. I've never done that but I heard it's quite vicious.

Then they are idiots and this only enforces my opinion of them, and true enough about the thread.

And apparently at Howe's if you express reluctance about rescuing her she promises unconditional support. I think it's kind of naive to expect her to honestly support your plan to depose her but they fixate more on her saying that Loghain was the bigger threat and had to be stopped no matter what.

[Costin_Razvan]

So she is a traitorous **** for refusing to kill her father? Because that is all it boils down to.

I despise my old man, utterly, but kill him? Maker, even if he had committed Genocide, I couldn't do it. Imprison him? sure, no issue there.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 29 mai 2010 - 02:58 .

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

So she is a traitorous **** for refusing to kill her father? Because that is all it boils down to.

I despise my old man, utterly, but kill him? Maker, even if he had committed Genocide, I couldn't do it. Imprison him? sure, no issue there.

A lot of them at least wish Anora wasn't in the room when it happened. From what I can tell, they're annoyed she set us up with Cauthrien arriving (which we don't know but there are some really covenient timing issues if she just showed up on her own and there's no way for her to know about Howe) and if you do spare Loghain and Alistair isn't King she calls for his execution which - while it makes sense - doesn't make them happy since they like him more than her.

Then there's her refusal to marry the man who killed her father even though she knew it could happen and is just fine with marrying the guy who called for his execution as long as he doesn't personally do it. I don't really agree with the Anora-hate but they say your first playthrough really colors your view of the characters and if all of these people were honest that they were putting Alistair on the throne and took her at her word...of course they'd be pissed. She even admits she didn't think she was in any danger but was just testing you.

[Lady Jess]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

They take her at her word when she says 'Of COURSE I'll support Alistair even though the whole reason I made contact with you is so I could be Queen' and get pissed when she sides with Loghain. I've never done that but I heard it's quite vicious.

Then they are idiots and this only enforces my opinion of them, and true enough about the thread.

Apparently Anora is a heartless shrew for refusing to kill her father, but then she is a criminal for exactly that....the logic boggles the mind!

/Cailan I am not an idiot /end Cailan

I have a problem with how Anora is handled. She calls for Alistair's excecution, but he can't call for hers. It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

The only time took her at face value when she said she'd support us, when my first playthrough, and this was my first real RPG. Oh man did I want to kill her, but after that...I just made sure to RP my girls smart enough to see through her. Or of course actualy make her queen, but that's rare.

[Costin_Razvan]

/Cailan I am not an idiot /end Cailan

The biggest fool in Dragon Age...please.



And what persuasion check is there? I never had one to deal with. I imagine it is different if you do not support her fully at the Landsmeet and change your opinion later on.

[Sarah1281]

I have a problem with how Anora is handled. She calls for Alistair's excecution, but he can't call for hers. It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

To be fair, unhardened Alistair fails at being king so of course he won't kill her as it's not a very nice thing to do even if it makes sense. Hardned Alistair needs to keep her alive as heir in case he dies fighting the Archdemon. Anora never plans to be near the battle and thus will most likely make it through. What if Alistair called for Anora's execution and then fed himself to the Archdemon? Who would be the King then? There is no heir and the country needs leadership after the Blight was defeated.

[tmp7704]

Lady Jess wrote...

I have a problem with how Anora is handled. She calls for Alistair's excecution, but he can't call for hers. It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

You can also use your boon with her (of you have it) to save him. And it seems more like Alistair just cannot stomach the idea of killing her, the action itself can certainly be requested and Eamon does it. That's just one situation where for a change the PC isn't asked for their opinion and it's quite refreshing.

[thegreateski]

Aww . . . that "bug" is adorable.



It reminds me of the Crawdads I used to play with as a kid *warm feeling*

[Costin_Razvan]

It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

It's not only implied, it's done by him.

Anora takes no pleasure in executing him, at least from VO notes in toolset, while Alistair does.

Anora: I'm afraid it's no simple as that, Alistair. ( VO: A bit regretful )

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 29 mai 2010 - 03:17 .

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I have a problem with how Anora is handled. She calls for Alistair's excecution, but he can't call for hers. It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

To be fair, unhardened Alistair fails at being king so of course he won't kill her as it's not a very nice thing to do even if it makes sense. Hardned Alistair needs to keep her alive as heir in case he dies fighting the Archdemon. Anora never plans to be near the battle and thus will most likely make it through. What if Alistair called for Anora's execution and then fed himself to the Archdemon? Who would be the King then? There is no heir and the country needs leadership after the Blight was defeated.

Yeah I know, my point is, you KNOW Alistair is executed if she calls for it and you don't use your boon at that point to spare him. BUT yes, the wise decision is "put her in the tower for now, I won't kill you while there's a chance I could die", but after that, you don't know what he did, did he actually execute her once his life was no longer in danger? We don't know. But we sure know Alistair was executed at HER request. It just should work both ways.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

It's not only implied, it's done by him.

Anora takes no pleasure in executing him, at least from VO notes in toolset.

Now THAT I don't believe. The toolset just says how the VO is supposed to sound and if she started cackling with glee it would be bad PR. The fact is that, game mechanics aside, she only tries to kill Alistair if he attempted to take the throne to kill her father and if Loghain dies she'll accept a simple 'yeah, fine, I won't be King and neither will my heirs.'

[Lady Jess]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

/Cailan I am not an idiot /end Cailan

The biggest fool in Dragon Age...please.

And what persuasion check is there? I never had one to deal with. I imagine it is different if you do not support her fully at the Landsmeet and change your opinion later on.

You can tell her she owes you, and request he be spared, maybe it isn't a persuade check...I've only done it once.

[Sarah1281]

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I have a problem with how Anora is handled. She calls for Alistair's excecution, but he can't call for hers. It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

To be fair, unhardened Alistair fails at being king so of course he won't kill her as it's not a very nice thing to do even if it makes sense. Hardned Alistair needs to keep her alive as heir in case he dies fighting the Archdemon. Anora never plans to be near the battle and thus will most likely make it through. What if Alistair called for Anora's execution and then fed himself to the Archdemon? Who would be the King then? There is no heir and the country needs leadership after the Blight was defeated.

Yeah I know, my point is, you KNOW Alistair is executed if she calls for it and you don't use your boon at that point to spare him. BUT yes, the wise decision is "put her in the tower for now, I won't kill you while there's a chance I could die", but after that, you don't know what he did, did he actually execute her once his life was no longer in danger? We don't know. But we sure know Alistair was executed at HER request. It just should work both ways.

The only time you see Alistair once he knows he survived the Blight is at the coronation so do you think he should have mentoned that when you talked to him in private then (it might ruin the moment if you're still in a romance with him) or should he have told her 'I said if I died you could be Queen, if. If I don't then I'm going to kill you'?

[Costin_Razvan]

Now THAT I don't believe

Strangely, there is no VO note in the toolset for that line. Still, that is what I believe he does, given his tone in the game.

[Lady Jess]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I have a problem with how Anora is handled. She calls for Alistair's excecution, but he can't call for hers. It's implied in the dialog (at least when he's hardened) about the tower but that's it. When she calls for HIS however, unless you choose and pass a persuade, it's done.

To be fair, unhardened Alistair fails at being king so of course he won't kill her as it's not a very nice thing to do even if it makes sense. Hardned Alistair needs to keep her alive as heir in case he dies fighting the Archdemon. Anora never plans to be near the battle and thus will most likely make it through. What if Alistair called for Anora's execution and then fed himself to the Archdemon? Who would be the King then? There is no heir and the country needs leadership after the Blight was defeated.

Yeah I know, my point is, you KNOW Alistair is executed if she calls for it and you don't use your boon at that point to spare him. BUT yes, the wise decision is "put her in the tower for now, I won't kill you while there's a chance I could die", but after that, you don't know what he did, did he actually execute her once his life was no longer in danger? We don't know. But we sure know Alistair was executed at HER request. It just should work both ways.

The only time you see Alistair once he knows he survived the Blight is at the coronation so do you think he should have mentoned that when you talked to him in private then (it might ruin the moment if you're still in a romance with him) or should he have told her 'I said if I died you could be Queen, if. If I don't then I'm going to kill you'?

All they had to do was put it in the Epilogue slide "With Anora executed, Alistair's rule unthreatened, he surprised many by learning blah blah blah"

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Now THAT I don't believe

Strangely, there is no VO note in the toolset for that line. Still, that is what I believe he does, given his tone in the game.

Oh, I think he does, too. What I meant was given the circumstances she kills him and the one she just accepts his oath and doesn't even bother to exile him, I don't believe she doesn't enjoy killing the man who wanted to kill her father even when you and Riordan are willing to spare him and he's capitulated and who tried to take her precious throne to do it. Hardened or otherwise if you suggest sparing him he says something about wanting to be King for the sole purpose of murdering Anora's father.