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[soignee]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Do you get to say anything to Gorim or Rica if you are in a romance with anyone, since I got the dialouge fix I am wondering if you can say anything about that.

yes to gorim, no to rica.

[Giggles_Manically]

Anyone have his dialouge though, I accidently deleted the toolset while clearing out some files.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Anyone have his dialouge though, I accidently deleted the toolset while clearing out some files.

Gilsa wrote...
3. I'm glad you're happy.
Gorim: "And you?"

(IF: Romance_Zevran) 1. I am in love... with an elf of all people.
Gorim: "Then I thank the ancestors for their kindness, for I too have found my heart. My wife is a surfacer, a good woman."
Gorim: "We're... expecting our firstborn before the spring." (VO: proud, but hesitant) *Go to tree 4*

(IF: Romance_Morrigan) 2. I am in love... with a human mage of all people.
Gorim: "Then I thank the ancestors for their kindness, for I too have found my heart. My wife is a surfacer, a good woman."
Gorim: "We're... expecting our firstborn before the spring." (VO: proud, but hesitant) *Go to tree 4*

(IF: Romance_Leliana) 3. I am in love... with a human priestess of all people.
Gorim: "Then I thank the ancestors for their kindness, for I too have found my heart. My wife is a surfacer, a good woman."
Gorim: "We're... expecting our firstborn before the spring." (VO: proud, but hesitant) *Go to tree 4*

(IF: Romance_Alistair) 4. I am in love... with the future king of Ferelden.
Gorim: "*Laughs* I can't say I'm surprised." (VO: Matter-of-fact. He is talking to royalty, after all.)
Gorim: "But I thank the ancestors for their kindness, for I too have found my heart. My wife is a surfacer, a good woman."
Gorim: "We're... expecting our firstborn before the spring." (VO: proud, but hesitant) *Go to tree 4*

(IF: Romance_Alistair_King) 5. I am in love... with the king of Ferelden of all people.
Gorim: "*Laughs* I can't say I'm surprised." (VO: Matter-of-fact. He is talking to royalty, after all.)
Gorim: "But I thank the ancestors for their kindness, for I too have found my heart. My wife is a surfacer, a good woman."
Gorim: "We're... expecting our firstborn before the spring." (VO: proud, but hesitant) *Go to tree 4*

[Giggles_Manically]

So it seems Gorim is not your traditional dwarf at all. I thought if you told him you where in Love with a human his face would have been very suprised. Then again Gorim was always the kewlest dwarf ever.

[Sarah1281]

I don't like how those are the lines you get even if you had romanced him because even though in that case you both basically cheated on each other he can't know that and so it looks like he only doesn't tell you that he's 'found his heart' because he doesn't want to hurt you any more if you haven't found someone new...

Modifié par Sarah1281, 08 juin 2010 - 08:12 .

[Giggles_Manically]

My only Dwarf Noble was male so there was fist bumping and happinnes and bragging about our lives. I was happy the Gorim is okay now, and didnt end up like Tamlem (sp) or Jowan. He is probably to good to go down though.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

My only Dwarf Noble was male so there was fist bumping and happinnes and bragging about our lives. I was happy the Gorim is okay now, and didnt end up like Tamlem (sp) or Jowan. He is probably to good to go down though.

It's like if Leliana was like 'hey, I'm heading to Orlais while you go play Arl. Come find me there when you're done' and then when you do she's up and gotten herself married and only if you confess that you're in love with someone else as well or never romanced her does she tell you how much she loves her new husband. Even if she breaks the news gentler to you if you didn't cheat on her as well then you've still got to (using metagming knowledge) wonder if she's still madly in love with the new guy.

[Giggles_Manically]

Ouch that would hurt, and would destroy two of my charachters since my Berserker would run out and start a war, and my Mage would go and kick down an offending mountain or two. My Dwarf Noble would go get drunk with Oghern I guess. Does Gorim give any sign he regrets saying he cares for a FEM DN or does he not.

[Gilsa]

The reason why the Alistair line won't trigger is because the code is bad. I don't remember exactly what ejoslin said at the time, but the way it was set up for the game meant we aren't going to hear it in vanilla game. (Alistair's line has conditions that he has to be king, or whatever, while everyone else merely needs to have the romance active -- even just interested is adequate.) I didn't care about telling him about Alistair per se -- I just wanted to hear Gorim laugh and see his response/facial expression. Just to get another line out of Gorrrrim.   The other romantic interests don't get the extra line so it's eh.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Ouch that would hurt, and would destroy two of my charachters since my Berserker would run out and start a war, and my Mage would go and kick down an offending mountain or two. My Dwarf Noble would go get drunk with Oghern I guess. Does Gorim give any sign he regrets saying he cares for a FEM DN or does he not.

That depends, really.

Gilsa wrote...
[IF: Gorim_Romantic] 3. I never thought I'd see you again.
Gorim: "My lady... if I had thought to see you again..."
Gorim: "You will always be in my heart. But we both knew it wouldn't truly work out."
Gorim: "Here on the surface, I've found someone. My-my wife is a good woman, the daughter of the best smith in Denerim."
Gorim: "We're... expecting our firstborn before the spring." (VO: proud, but hesitant) *Go to tree 4*

TREE #4
(IF: Gorim_Romantic) 1. But ... what about us?
Gorim: "Even in Orzammar, we both knew it couldn't last. I was honored by the time we shared, but..."
Gorim: "You are a princess. I'm not even a warrior anymore." (VO: I'm not good enough for you.) *Go to tree 5*

TREE #5
1. I could never find a better man than you.
Gorim: "Perhaps it is better for me to wish you the best and let you continue your business in the city."
Gorim: "But please, let me at least offer you a discount on my father-in-law's crafts. They're all fine work." *END DIALOGUE*

2. You jerk! I hope you and your ugly wife rot together!
Gorim: "My lady, I'm sorry. I would never have tried to hurt you."
Gorim: "Forgive me." [SET: Ugly_Breakup] *END DIALOGUE*

3. Gorim Saelac, a merchant. It's hard to believe it. *Go to tree 4, line 3*

4. Well, when can I meet the lucky girl? *Go to tree 4, line 2*

To me it sounds like he's just feeling guilty but not necessarily saying that he still loves her (and the 'you will always be in my heart' sounds like a platitude) and if you choose the 'I just found out my boyfriend got married and am having a difficult time accepting that two seconds after finding out' option he's clearly trying to get rid of you.

[Giggles_Manically]

A lot of the Origins seem to get a lot deeper and emotional if you play a female rather than a male it seems.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

A lot of the Origins seem to get a lot deeper and emotional if you play a female rather than a male it seems.

Yeah, as a female DC your mother tells you how Rica saved you from having to be a noble hunter as well which isn't necessary if you're not a girl, as a female mage you can mention that you had a thing for Jowan (not sure why you would want to but...) and Cullen is in love with you and so visions of you helped break him, as a female DE you could have been together with Tamlen and everyone expected for you to bond, as a female CE your betrothed comes with Soris to rescue you no matter how you treat him making him one of only two people to care enough to do that and dies in your arms after giving you the ring he made for you...I don't think a HN origin really matters as far as gender goes as both ONS options are bi and die anyway.

[Giggles_Manically]

Bioware games do usually add an extra emotional level in a lot of cases if you play a female charecter. Getting hit on is just wierd though for me. Goes all the way back to Crassius Curio in Morrowind, I still cant get clean after that.

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Costin. Well I read it and I must say I'm imrpessed. To be honest I was at first skepitcal like I am of most FFs. But I like it. I like the history and codexes you provide. The flashbacks. And it is an original scenario, having several Origin characters fight together and interact.

Maybe Trian being made too much of a fool was a bit excessive. But other than that, I like it. Well done and good luck with the rest.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Bioware games do usually add an extra emotional level in a lot of cases if you play a female charecter. Getting hit on is just wierd though for me. Goes all the way back to Crassius Curio in Morrowind, I still cant get clean after that.

I've never played that. What happens? 

[Giggles_Manically]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Bioware games do usually add an extra emotional level in a lot of cases if you play a female charecter. Getting hit on is just wierd though for me. Goes all the way back to Crassius Curio in Morrowind, I still cant get clean after that.

I've never played that. What happens? 

Urrr oh well had to come out sooner or later..

SPOILERS AHEAD!


In Morrowind you have to fulfill an ancinet prophocey by uniting the entire province under you against Dagoth UR. That means the church, various guilds, 4 different tribes, and three major houses.
Most of them are easy to get on your side variations on go there kill that quests.
However one really does stand out, for House Hlaau.

You have to get involved in very dirty politics, assassinations, corruption, theft, and bribery to get them on your side. However with Crassius Curio, he um has a crush on you so to gain his support you get butt naked in front of him. I am not making this up, Or you can politely introduce him to the buisness end of a 2 handed sword like I did.

He is flat out the perviest dude in the game, or in most games. Trust me Bann Vaughan could take lessons from this man.

If you can excuse me I am going to take a very cold shower.

edit-Oops wrong quest, to get his support you have to kiss him...   
        Bioware has got nothing on Bethesda for akward situations.

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 08 juin 2010 - 09:01 .

[Sarah1281]

Well, since Tamlen's a DE and that means he and the DEF have been getting about as much action as Cammen and Gheyna, Nelaros met you earlier that day and you've had no alone time, Cullen is so guilt-ridden about the fact that he has hormones and insists on keeping his vows (and if you proposition him or even just suggest talking in his room later he runs away), and Gorim is a warrior to your Princess there isn't really much happening in the game as far as those relationships go.

[Giggles_Manically]

That is what mods are for I guess. Although I hated all the Dalish charachters in the game outside of the Keeper in the origin, Bunch of rascits knife ear.



So Sarah what do you think of Curio?

[tmp7704]

Gilsa wrote...

The reason why the Alistair line won't trigger is because the code is bad. I don't remember exactly what ejoslin said at the time, but the way it was set up for the game meant we aren't going to hear it in vanilla game. (Alistair's line has conditions that he has to be king, or whatever, while everyone else merely needs to have the romance active -- even just interested is adequate.)

The line about being in love with Alistair should show up when you speak with Gorim after the Landsmeet plot is started. So basically when the game moves you to Arl's estate and you leave it and go to the market and speak with Gorim there it should show up... does it not show for you even then?

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

That is what mods are for I guess. Although I hated all the Dalish charachters in the game outside of the Keeper in the origin, Bunch of rascits knife ear.

So Sarah what do you think of Curio?

He seems...special. I can't really say I'm a fan from what I've heard.

[Giggles_Manically]

I used a Writ to get away with killing him, urr although he has text dialouge, he is 10 times slimer than Bhelen. heh slimy Bhelen.

MIND over GUTTER

[Giggles_Manically]

I used a Writ to get away with killing him, urr although he has text dialouge, he is 10 times slimer than Bhelen. heh slimy Bhelen.

MIND over GUTTER

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I used a Writ to get away with killing him, urr although he has text dialouge, he is 10 times slimer than Bhelen. heh slimy Bhelen.
MIND over GUTTER

To Bhelen's credit, he never hits on you. Then again, you're either his sibling, the sibling of the mother of his only child, or not a dwarf...

[Gilsa]

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

The reason why the Alistair line won't trigger is because the code is bad. I don't remember exactly what ejoslin said at the time, but the way it was set up for the game meant we aren't going to hear it in vanilla game. (Alistair's line has conditions that he has to be king, or whatever, while everyone else merely needs to have the romance active -- even just interested is adequate.)

The line about being in love with Alistair should show up when you speak with Gorim after the Landsmeet plot is started. So basically when the game moves you to Arl's estate and you leave it and go to the market and speak with Gorim there it should show up... does it not show for you even then?

Nnngh, I get what you're saying now. I had woken up the arl and he brought up the whole Landsmeet thing and said we should put Alistair forward as king. I thought that was adequate. I have not relocated Eamon to Denerim just yet. That makes so much more sense now. I had paused my game for a while and forgot about stuff like this. Thanks!! I can't wait to see this!

[Sarah1281]

Gilsa wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

The reason why the Alistair line won't trigger is because the code is bad. I don't remember exactly what ejoslin said at the time, but the way it was set up for the game meant we aren't going to hear it in vanilla game. (Alistair's line has conditions that he has to be king, or whatever, while everyone else merely needs to have the romance active -- even just interested is adequate.)

The line about being in love with Alistair should show up when you speak with Gorim after the Landsmeet plot is started. So basically when the game moves you to Arl's estate and you leave it and go to the market and speak with Gorim there it should show up... does it not show for you even then?

Nnngh, I get what you're saying now. I had woken up the arl and he brought up the whole Landsmeet thing and said we should put Alistair forward as king. I thought that was adequate. I have not relocated Eamon to Denerim just yet. That makes so much more sense now. I had paused my game for a while and forgot about stuff like this. Thanks!! I can't wait to see this!

Let us know if it works.