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[Gilsa]

On one hand, I'm facepalming myself and glad I misunderstood and can't wait to finish the last treaty, but on the other hand, I'm also facepalming myself again that I have to have three treaties done first before I'm allowed to talk to Gorim just to get one lousy line. You can practically hit on Morrigan in Lotheirng and then go straight to Denerim to introduce her as your girlfriend. I mean, seriously. =p

[Gilsa]

BUT! I will make the Couslands wail with jealousy! HI GORIM I AM IN LOVE WITH THE KIIIIING OF FERELDEN! HE IS MIIIIINE.

Edit: I think I may have found the theme for my next payroo commission! lol. =p

Modifié par Gilsa, 08 juin 2010 - 09:35 .

[Sarah1281]

Gilsa wrote...

BUT! I will make the Couslands wail with jealousy! HI GORIM I AM IN LOVE WITH THE KIIIIING OF FERELDEN! HE IS MIIIIINE.

Edit: I think I may have found the theme for my next payroo commission! lol. =p

Introducing Alistair to Gorim or making Princess cry? 

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

BUT! I will make the Couslands wail with jealousy! HI GORIM I AM IN LOVE WITH THE KIIIIING OF FERELDEN! HE IS MIIIIINE.

Edit: I think I may have found the theme for my next payroo commission! lol. =p

Introducing Alistair to Gorim or making Princess cry? 

Or both?

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

BUT! I will make the Couslands wail with jealousy! HI GORIM I AM IN LOVE WITH THE KIIIIING OF FERELDEN! HE IS MIIIIINE.

Edit: I think I may have found the theme for my next payroo commission! lol. =p

Introducing Alistair to Gorim or making Princess cry? 

Or both?

Now there's a thought.
As long as there's no dialogue so I can assume she's introducing Gorim to her replacement second...

[Gilsa]

Heh, I don't actually have any angst towards Cousland queens because I don't read fanfic, but soignee has shared her horror stories to me. One person posted about how satisfying it was to end as his queen and then when soignee shared her enthusiasm for the Aeducan/Alistair pairing, meow from the Cousland poster. Sheesh. Soignee did have her defenders so all was well and good.



The only thing that mildly irked me was reflected in aimo's drawing of the Aeducan and Cousland squaring off each other:







The little RP dwarf in me goes, "But I'm already royalty! You can't get the crown without steamrolling over Alistair! IT DOESN'T COUNT." =p

[Herr Uhl]

Gilsa wrote...


The little RP dwarf in me goes, "But I'm already royalty! You can't get the crown without steamrolling over Alistair! IT DOESN'T COUNT." =p

Well, the DN can't get it unless you steamroll Bhelen.

[Verly]

That Aimo art is just too cute!

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Gilsa wrote...


The little RP dwarf in me goes, "But I'm already royalty! You can't get the crown without steamrolling over Alistair! IT DOESN'T COUNT." =p

Well, the DN can't get it unless you steamroll Bhelen.

That's if they want to be queen. If they're willing to settle for princess they're already there (especially so with Bhelen on the throne).

[Gilsa]

More like Bhelen had to steamroll over the DN to take it away.

[Herr Uhl]

Ah, yes. But to be the queen.



If you're a DC you can become Eamon or Teagan though, awesome. (I dislike them both)

[Giggles_Manically]

BHELEN WAS FRAMED!

[Sarah1281]

Gilsa wrote...

More like Bhelen had to steamroll over the DN to take it away.

Turnabout's fair play and whatnot.

Herr Uhl wrote...

If you're a DC you can become Eamon or Teagan though, awesome. (I dislike them both)

A DC can become Eamon or Teagan?  

Giggles_Manically wrote...

BHELEN WAS FRAMED!

...By who? Jarvia hated him so much she learned how to mimic his handwriting and forged all those letters to Beraht arranging for Trian's murder and/or the bandits sent after the DN? 

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

If you're a DC you can become Eamon or Teagan though, awesome. (I dislike them both)

A DC can become Eamon or Teagan?  

Not really royal, but uncle/aunt of the king. As long as Cailan lived that is.

[Gilsa]

My memory is hazy with human lore, but Eamon's sister was the queen, right? So I think Herr meant that Rica is Bhelen's queen (of sorts, work with me here), that would make the DC the equivalent of Eamon/Teagan. Right?

[Giggles_Manically]

I thought Rica was not made the queen in game, only we assume that she will be.

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I thought Rica was not made the queen in game, only we assume that she will be.

There is no way in hell a casteless noble hunter like her will be Queen in a DN or non-dwarf game but since she is a noble in the DC game there is a chance that Bhelen might.

[Gilsa]

I was just trying to connect the dots with Herr's analogy. He was going for the aunt/uncle angle while I was looking at it from the sibling angle. He's right about the aunt/uncle angle -- Rica would not need to be queen for the DC to still be similar to Eamon/Teagan.



I don't think there's really enough one way or another to rule Rica out as being queen because even when my Brosca picked Harrowmont and saw Rica again at the post-coronation ceremony, he was apologizing to her for getting her husband killed. But then again, if you pick Bhelen, you hear the two noble hunters vying to get Bhelen's attention and be his queen while dismissing Rica as insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

[Herr Uhl]

Gilsa wrote...

I was just trying to connect the dots with Herr's analogy. He was going for the aunt/uncle angle while I was looking at it from the sibling angle. He's right about the aunt/uncle angle -- Rica would not need to be queen for the DC to still be similar to Eamon/Teagan.

I don't think there's really enough one way or another to rule Rica out as being queen because even when my Brosca picked Harrowmont and saw Rica again at the post-coronation ceremony, he was apologizing to her for getting her husband killed. But then again, if you pick Bhelen, you hear the two noble hunters vying to get Bhelen's attention and be his queen while dismissing Rica as insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

That is why I go with the Endrin angle. Firstborns are popular amongst dwarves, as long as they can survive.

[Sarah1281]

Gilsa wrote...

I was just trying to connect the dots with Herr's analogy. He was going for the aunt/uncle angle while I was looking at it from the sibling angle. He's right about the aunt/uncle angle -- Rica would not need to be queen for the DC to still be similar to Eamon/Teagan.

I don't think there's really enough one way or another to rule Rica out as being queen because even when my Brosca picked Harrowmont and saw Rica again at the post-coronation ceremony, he was apologizing to her for getting her husband killed. But then again, if you pick Bhelen, you hear the two noble hunters vying to get Bhelen's attention and be his queen while dismissing Rica as insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

If Bhelen is alive, though, she points out that she's not his wife. Maybe she just doesn't see the need to correct people since he's dead? Rica never thinks she'll end up marrying him and unless Bhelen wanted to scandalize everyone more and lose ALL of his noble allies (and probably not just them as even lower castes look down on casteless) or is so overcome by love  that he can't help it, there's no need. She's sticking around as Endrin's mother and his concubine anyway.

Bhelen marrying a non-DC-Warden Rica would be like Alistair making a non-HNF-Warden his Queen. He just can't do it without completely overthrowing society and even though we know he makes a lot of changes he doesn't do away with the caste system altogether and so it would still be the equivalent of, say, Maric marrying Goldanna's mother. Besides, what does Rica know about politics or power? Actually, I'm not sure making her an ambassador was the best plan, either...

[Giggles_Manically]

If Bhelen wants to put Rica on the throne he would, I doubt he would care if some nobles got whiny. If a casteless can become a paragon why not Queen. I mean my DC was crazy about protecting his sister Im sure Bhelen could tell people "Its not me you have to worry about, If you upset Rica, than the only Paragon remaning will come and get you"

[Sarah1281]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

If Bhelen wants to put Rica on the throne he would, I doubt he would care if some nobles got whiny. If a casteless can become a paragon why not Queen. I mean my DC was crazy about protecting his sister Im sure Bhelen could tell people "Its not me you have to worry about, If you upset Rica, than the only Paragon remaning will come and get you"

But that's if you're a DC. Then you and Rica are noble so he can marry her. The Assembly wouldn't accept it otherwise any more than the Landsmeet would. And is Bhelen really that sentimental he'd insist on marrying Rica just because he might love her and she had his child? 

[Gilsa]

I looked up a line I remembered seeing on the DC.

DC: "Does that put my nephew in line for the throne?"
Bhelen: "I haven't exactly picked an heir yet. But he is my son and a son of House Aeducan. He has the same rights as any sons of my wife's body."

For some reason, at the time, I thought that meant Bhelen was already married with kids. I looked in VO notes. Turns out the original line was: "When I do take power, I hope to hold onto it for quite some time, so I haven't exactly picked an heir yet."

I don't have a point other than oh, hey, new line in toolset.

Modifié par Gilsa, 08 juin 2010 - 11:58 .

[Sarah1281]

Oh, I just BET he hasn't picked an heir. He can let them all kill each other off and give the most deserving one the crown after making sure to only let someone he actually trusts prepare his food. It's kind of weird that he says he's undecided as Endrin's the only kid he has right now. Who else is he considering giving the throne to? Although him not wanting to name his firstborn heir and then have him be the Trian of the family makes sense.

[Sarah1281]

 Definitely squee-worthy.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 09 juin 2010 - 02:49 .