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Jestina wrote...

If they just catapulted Dwarven berserkers into the horde, the whole Blight problem would be solved quickly.


Like Oghren? It would slow down the horde, once they drank all the ale from the broken glasses of Oghren's "secret stash".

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Herr Uhl wrote...

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Caak7i wrote...

I take it back, I must have read something wrong if I am stating no one has seen a Broodmother before. It would be rare and hard to get through the darkspawn horde to find one, but it had to happen. Though I am not convinced the dwarves know how they are created, though it is possible.

Epic Failure on my part.

*Awaits for his execution*

I think that the only way they would be able to tell how Broodmothers were created - no matter how many of them they saw - is if they saw a woman who was in the middle of transforming like Hespith who filled them in which seems highly unlikely.


You do know how long a millennium is don't you?

What does how long a millenium is have to do with them being able to find someone else like Hespith? 

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Time is definitely a factor in how unlikely it is to find one. Imagine what has happened between year 1000 and 2000.



I simply won't accept that only GW know about how darkspawn are made, and even if the dwarves didn't find out by themselves, not tell the ones who are likely to provide the most females.



It just seems dumb to me.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Time is definitely a factor in how unlikely it is to find one. Imagine what has happened between year 1000 and 2000.

I simply won't accept that only GW know about how darkspawn are made, and even if the dwarves didn't find out by themselves, not tell the ones who are likely to provide the most females.

It just seems dumb to me.

The GW keeping secrets excessively? Never! Posted Image

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Time is definitely a factor in how unlikely it is to find one. Imagine what has happened between year 1000 and 2000.

I simply won't accept that only GW know about how darkspawn are made, and even if the dwarves didn't find out by themselves, not tell the ones who are likely to provide the most females.

It just seems dumb to me.

The GW keeping secrets excessively? Never! Posted Image


In this case, it would simply be mindbogglingly stupid. There is no reason not to tell.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

I simply won't accept that only GW know about how darkspawn are made, and even if the dwarves didn't find out by themselves, not tell the ones who are likely to provide the most females.

It just seems dumb to me.

Well, since Sigrun does appear to know about them (wasn't that knowledge the reason she broke her oath? can't quite remember now) the whole "the dwarves cannot possibly know" premise is rather dumb to start with. It doesn't matter exactly how they found out, when they apparently did.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Time is definitely a factor in how unlikely it is to find one. Imagine what has happened between year 1000 and 2000.

I simply won't accept that only GW know about how darkspawn are made, and even if the dwarves didn't find out by themselves, not tell the ones who are likely to provide the most females.

It just seems dumb to me.

The GW keeping secrets excessively? Never! Posted Image


In this case, it would simply be mindbogglingly stupid. There is no reason not to tell.


Oh like not saying "Only Grey Wardens can actually kill archdemons?" or not telling people that they are going to die a horrible death in 30 years, or that in many cases the joining is fatal? Nah the wardens are such an open and honest order they would never keep secrets.

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Giggles_Manically wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

In this case, it would simply be mindbogglingly stupid. There is no reason not to tell.


Oh like not saying "Only Grey Wardens can actually kill archdemons?" or not telling people that they are going to die a horrible death in 30 years, or that in many cases the joining is fatal? Nah the wardens are such an open and honest order they would never keep secrets.


Is known, Loghain just thinks it to be a myth.

The other one I can see why they keep secret.

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 Ladies and Gents, I give you: Dragon Age: Thy End.  - Quality is crap at the moment, as video is still processing.

There are those who do not believe in Destiny....but believe in Hope.
That nothing is unchangeable as long as we try.
That hope. That belief, is what makes a hero out of any man.
In Dwarvish such heroism has a name, Kuldjargh Than, and although there is no exact translation to it, it roughly resembles one word:
Legendary.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

In this case, it would simply be mindbogglingly stupid. There is no reason not to tell.


Oh like not saying "Only Grey Wardens can actually kill archdemons?" or not telling people that they are going to die a horrible death in 30 years, or that in many cases the joining is fatal? Nah the wardens are such an open and honest order they would never keep secrets.


Is known, Loghain just thinks it to be a myth.

The other one I can see why they keep secret.


It simply bugged me how little they actually tell a recruit, I hated being told all those things after the fact. I think they were simply used as dramatic plot points. While it would be hard to get Wardens though I think it is so wrong how they dont tell you:
A) 30 years to live, and by live we mean either turn into a darkspawn, or die messily deep underground
B) Want kids? Well to bad you are now practically infertile!
C) Guess what your soul gets destroyed if your the lucky one who kills the big bad.
D) Better get some sleeping pills because, you are going to get some pretty bad insomnia.
E) Darkspawn will be drawn to you like a magnet, tough luck.

While stopping a blight is one thing, not informing people that they are about to suffer a pretty horrible life and death, even if they survive is sick. That is one reason why I cant agree with the GW actions.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

 Ladies and Gents, I give you: Dragon Age: Thy End.  - Quality is crap at the moment, as video is still processing.

There are those who do not believe in Destiny....but believe in Hope.
That nothing is unchangeable as long as we try.
That hope. That belief, is what makes a hero out of any man.
In Dwarvish such heroism has a name, Kuldjargh Than, and although there is no exact translation to it, it roughly resembles one word:
Legendary.

So I just watched it. Was that the entire final battle? It was a little long but nice use of characters cutting into it. You had Oghren, Sten, Wynne, Morrigan, Loghain (you put him in Cailan's armor? Can you say awkwardPosted Image), and even Anora but no Leliana or Zevran? Alistair, of course, had...left the party one way or another. Loghain's 'please let me die' speech was so heartwrenching, especially when he called you a friend...I have no idea how you managed to turn him down. I know I haven't managed to. I really liked the funeral as well and Anora may have actually sounded more upset than Alistair does even though chances are Alistair is more upset...unless he hates you and Anora can't really since you gave her the throne and she does understand if Loghaini dies. Another good thing about her giving it is she has an excuse not to know about dwarven burial customs whereas Alistair asks you about it when you talk about Duncan so clearly he wasn't listening.

Although I'll admit I almost had to stop watching at 7:52...what did you do to poor Gorim?!?! Posted Image

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Would you join the grey wardens if you knew all the consequences that came with being one, and as the game says: "there must always be grey wardens"

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

 Ladies and Gents, I give you: Dragon Age: Thy End.  - Quality is crap at the moment, as video is still processing.

There are those who do not believe in Destiny....but believe in Hope.
That nothing is unchangeable as long as we try.
That hope. That belief, is what makes a hero out of any man.
In Dwarvish such heroism has a name, Kuldjargh Than, and although there is no exact translation to it, it roughly resembles one word:
Legendary.


Costin, you sir are a Spielberg among us, amzing job.

Once the quality comes up this is definently one of the best Dragon Age edits I have ever seen.  The way you cut the battle, dialouges, and your own voice at the end was flat out the most impressive work I have ever seen. The only critism I can levy is that the first song was a bit to heavy, and loud for it. Besides that though I congratulate you on an impressive job.

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I didn't feel that Zevran's or Leliana added as much as Sten, Oghren, Loghain, Morrigan and Wynne did. I mostly used the cut ins so that people wouldn't get bored from just watching the fight, yet I didn't want too many of them.

I like Gorim like that. I am sorry. :whistle:

Giggles: The first song was meant to draw people into watching it. You need something action heavy like that at the start of a clip.

Thanks for your comment :) I truly feel this is my best video. 'Tis funny how it only started from my idea to do the Final Battle, Fraps it and put it on Youtube. At first I wanted to put my DC, but meh....female DC saying goodbey to Zevran and me saying the lines IS awkward. So I went with my DN and then realized how boring it might be for many to see the whole final battle and from there I ended up with this....after six hours of work.

I would DARE anyone to come with anything close to my video that isn't machinima.

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thesuperdarkone wrote...

Would you join the grey wardens if you knew all the consequences that came with being one, and as the game says: "there must always be grey wardens"


Me not personally,but there would be people like Daveth who would have or others who would take the chance. I find it extremelly disgusting how you are not informed about what really happens to you.

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but you need grey wardens, and think about all the problems that could arise if everyone knew about what being a grey warden enticed

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thesuperdarkone wrote...

but you need grey wardens, and think about all the problems that could arise if everyone knew about what being a grey warden enticed


As my history prof. likes to say "That explains their actions, it does not however excuse their actions." While I can see the reason for doing it, it is still a terrible thing to do to someone.

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thesuperdarkone wrote...

Would you join the grey wardens if you knew all the consequences that came with being one, and as the game says: "there must always be grey wardens"

That depends. My mage and casteless dwarves would have even without their desperation as well as potentially my city elf. My other characters wouldn't have if they had had another option but they kind of didn't. Well, my human noble could have tried her hand at escaping alone but my dalish elf and dwarf noble didn't have that luxury.

And the Grey Wardens want to recruit people like Daveth or Logahin who really have no other options and who undertake the Joining as a stay of execution. Maybe those like Jory wouldn't have joined up but he's not exactly ideal Warden material. I think 'how would the Chantry, nobility, and common people react to learning GW secrets' would be more of a pressing concern. See how much harder it is to get things done if you're an outlaw?

Also, looking at the toolset if you are a DN and elect to explain how you got exiled when you find the Wardens Duncan says ""I see. The brutal intrigue of the dwarven court continues, then. Your father intimated as much." What, exactly, does Endrin say? 'Oh, by the way, Duncan, I think my children are out to kill each other'? He certainly seems surprised and horrified enough when it actually happens and doesn't really have a plan in place for dealing with you and retreats to the palace which seems to indicate he was taken by surprise.

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I like Gorim like that. I am sorry.

Why do you mod him, anyway? And he's initally a redhead but now isn't and given your own Aeducan is a redhead I can't imagine that would be a problem? You don't like his beard choice?

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Yes...I don't like his beard at ALL. As the guy who made him look like he does in my video: "He looks like a merchant, not the warrior he is."

Regarding Loghain. I would NEVER live with myself knowing that I allowed a man to sacrifice his soul when there were alternative. If there had been no choice I would gladly sacrifice myself for such a thing IRL before letting someone else do it.

It's tough as hell to turn him down, but I can't allow him to that....there are just some things that cross my line of morality. 

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Yes...I don't like his beard at ALL. As the guy who made him look like he does in my video: "He looks like a merchant, not the warrior he is."

Regarding Loghain. I would NEVER live with myself knowing that I allowed a man to sacrifice his soul when there were alternative. If there had been no choice I would gladly sacrifice myself for such a thing IRL before letting someone else do it.

But now he has Endrin's beard, right? That's a little...creepy.

And Loghain has the same position: he'd rather it were him instead of you since he's the one who almost doomed Ferelden during his tenure as regent. Of course, I only bother doing US endings if I'm feeling self-indulgent so... Posted Image

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No...it's not Endrin's beard, my DN has his father's beard, but Gorim has a different one...



I suppose Loghain is in the same position, but while I consider myself a VERY ruthless and pragmatic man there are two things in Dragon Age that go against every fiber of my body: Killing someone's parent in the presence of their child and allowing someone to sacrifice their soul for me.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Yes...I don't like his beard at ALL. As the guy who made him look like he does in my video: "He looks like a merchant, not the warrior he is."

Regarding Loghain. I would NEVER live with myself knowing that I allowed a man to sacrifice his soul when there were alternative. If there had been no choice I would gladly sacrifice myself for such a thing IRL before letting someone else do it.

It's tough as hell to turn him down, but I can't allow him to that....there are just some things that cross my line of morality. 


I came very close with my mage, but Loghain saying "Please I have done so much wrong, allow me to do one last thing right." That was the hardest descion in the game, none of the quests, or things like the DR/Landsmeet hit me as hard.  I couldnt let Alistair die on my first playthough since he was my friend but since Loghain pretty much begged him, my Mage let him do it. Any ending where someone dies to end the blight is way more powerful than a DR ending to me.

Also Costin I loved the music at the end of your video very fitting now that I watched it again.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

No...it's not Endrin's beard, my DN has his father's beard, but Gorim has a different one...

Whose beard is it, then? Or is custom? 

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Well...you ARE going to laugh at me but....it's Trian's beard...



Also Costin I loved the music at the end of your video very fitting now that I watched it again.




It's from Der Untergang, the end song. ( not the credits one, but the one before that ). It is the only part of any movie that ever made me cry. Der Untergang is about Hitler's final days, and that song is used while the fates of everyone that survived the Fall of Berlin close to Hitler. What struck a cord was not that most of them spent time in prison or even executed, but that ALL of them, ( save a bodyguard ) were dead IRL...