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[Gilsa]

I took screenshots of the dialogue during Miranda's quest. I don't have toolset or anything like that. Just the salty tears of my hard drive for taking up so much space with game photos. =p

Modifié par Gilsa, 17 juin 2010 - 05:47 .

[Sarah1281]

My second commission is here! And on-topic!

[KnightofPhoenix]

That's awesome! No Bhelen in it, but still awesome!

[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

That's awesome! No Bhelen in it, but still awesome!

Well, if Bhelen were in it it would kind of kill the mood, don't you think? Unless you think he's a voyeur or something.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

That's awesome! No Bhelen in it, but still awesome!

Well, if Bhelen were in it it would kind of kill the mood, don't you think? Unless you think he's a voyeur or something.

Bhelen sees all!
 
On a related note, do you think Bhelen would know about his sis and Gorim's relation and use it against her?

[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

That's awesome! No Bhelen in it, but still awesome!

Well, if Bhelen were in it it would kind of kill the mood, don't you think? Unless you think he's a voyeur or something.

Bhelen sees all!
 
On a related note, do you think Bhelen would know about his sis and Gorim's relation and use it against her?

I think he probably knew about it (although her father and Trian didn't or else they would have said/done something) but he never used it against her and possibly never let her know that he knew because that would have ruined his facade of innocent and harmless little brother and while his working plan was 'convince her that I'm looking out for her and Trian wants to kill her so she'll kill him' that would be a bad idea.

[KnightofPhoenix]

In addition, Bhelen also has a controversial relationship as well. So maybe that's why I believe he wouldn't use it.

Anyways, I gtg. Cheers to you al!

[Sarah1281]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

In addition, Bhelen also has a controversial relationship as well. So maybe that's why I believe he wouldn't use it.
Anyways, I gtg. Cheers to you al!

Bye.

Although his being with Rica for the sake of babies is rather different than her being with someone of a lower caste who getting pregnant by would be a bad idea as it's a fifty/fifty chance it won't be an Aeducan but she'll be the one spending nearly a year pregnant. It might be different if the genders were flipped although I'm not sure.

Edit: Though, of course, if the whole 'framing her for Trian's death' thing didn't work because Trian didn't die, she wasn't at the meeting point like she was supposed to be, Ivo changed his mind about the bribe, whatever, and he was done playing the fool then he probably would have. After all, people would probably kill Gorim if they knew.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 17 juin 2010 - 07:18 .

[tmp7704]

Gilsa wrote...

I don't even get sparing Marjolaine. It somewhat irks me that I have to suggest to Leliana to kill her. Rather if I wanted to spare Marjolaine, I should talk Leliana OUT of killing her rather than tell her to kill the **** and then listen to her freak out afterwards knowing that ITS MY FAULT that I told Leliana in the first place. Imagine suggesting to Alistair that Loghain should be killed. Much better to try to talk him out of it and fail.

Going by the Toolset notes this fits supposed morals of Leliana, actually. It says the following:

Her concept of good is more 'nice' than 'good' (e.g. would let one seemingly penitent bandit go to be nice, rather than turn him in for his crimes)

so it makes sense she'd prefer for Marjolaine to just 'go away' even if she's scared of her. I actually liked that in her -- when everyone else in game gets all "stabstabkill" whenever something gets in their personal way it gets rather boring. That was a refreshing change of pace.

[Herr Uhl]

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

I don't even get sparing Marjolaine. It somewhat irks me that I have to suggest to Leliana to kill her. Rather if I wanted to spare Marjolaine, I should talk Leliana OUT of killing her rather than tell her to kill the **** and then listen to her freak out afterwards knowing that ITS MY FAULT that I told Leliana in the first place. Imagine suggesting to Alistair that Loghain should be killed. Much better to try to talk him out of it and fail.

Going by the Toolset notes this fits supposed morals of Leliana, actually. It says the following:

Her concept of good is more 'nice' than 'good' (e.g. would let one seemingly penitent bandit go to be nice, rather than turn him in for his crimes)

so it makes sense she'd prefer for Marjolaine to just 'go away' even if she's scared of her. I actually liked that in her -- when everyone else in game gets all "stabstabkill" whenever something gets in their personal way it gets rather boring. That was a refreshing change of pace.

Is there any situation where Leliana opts to kill the person that does not actively try to kill you or someone else at the time?

[soignee]

Sarah1281 wrote...

My second commission is here! And on-topic!

smooooooooooooooth Gorim <3

[Costin_Razvan]

Does anyone else think the armor on Aunn is very nice?



Anyway. Soignee, I am sure you missed when I posted my latest chapter, so check it out

[DWSmiley]

Herr Uhl wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

I don't even get sparing Marjolaine. It somewhat irks me that I have to suggest to Leliana to kill her. Rather if I wanted to spare Marjolaine, I should talk Leliana OUT of killing her rather than tell her to kill the **** and then listen to her freak out afterwards knowing that ITS MY FAULT that I told Leliana in the first place. Imagine suggesting to Alistair that Loghain should be killed. Much better to try to talk him out of it and fail.

Going by the Toolset notes this fits supposed morals of Leliana, actually. It says the following:

Her concept of good is more 'nice' than 'good' (e.g. would let one seemingly penitent bandit go to be nice, rather than turn him in for his crimes)

so it makes sense she'd prefer for Marjolaine to just 'go away' even if she's scared of her. I actually liked that in her -- when everyone else in game gets all "stabstabkill" whenever something gets in their personal way it gets rather boring. That was a refreshing change of pace.

Is there any situation where Leliana opts to kill the person that does not actively try to kill you or someone else at the time?

Ser Cauthrien perhaps?  I haven't taken Leliana along to rescue Anora for awhile but I recall pretty much every companion urging me to fight rather than surrender.

[Gilsa]

Sarah1281 wrote...

My second commission is here! And on-topic!

RAWR!! THIS IS AWESOME!!!!

[Gilsa]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

In addition, Bhelen also has a controversial relationship as well. So maybe that's why I believe he wouldn't use it.
Anyways, I gtg. Cheers to you al!

Bye!

Edit: I just don't get the vibe that Bhelen would have seriously gone after Gorim because Gorim was merely exiled to the surface while the DN got the death penalty. I just thought if Bhelen truly had it out for Gorim, he would have had Gorim die in the DN. (Man, that would have been awful for Gorim to die in Deep Roads like the CE fiance or have Duncan turn down Gorim if they both reached him since Gorim is not that skilled of a fighter.)

Modifié par Gilsa, 17 juin 2010 - 06:17 .

[Gilsa]

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

I don't even get sparing Marjolaine. It somewhat irks me that I have to suggest to Leliana to kill her. Rather if I wanted to spare Marjolaine, I should talk Leliana OUT of killing her rather than tell her to kill the **** and then listen to her freak out afterwards knowing that ITS MY FAULT that I told Leliana in the first place. Imagine suggesting to Alistair that Loghain should be killed. Much better to try to talk him out of it and fail.

Going by the Toolset notes this fits supposed morals of Leliana, actually. It says the following:

Her concept of good is more 'nice' than 'good' (e.g. would let one seemingly penitent bandit go to be nice, rather than turn him in for his crimes)

so it makes sense she'd prefer for Marjolaine to just 'go away' even if she's scared of her. I actually liked that in her -- when everyone else in game gets all "stabstabkill" whenever something gets in their personal way it gets rather boring. That was a refreshing change of pace.

That is true. I was looking at the larger picture (and partly reacting out of protectiveness). A common thief is one thing, but this was a woman who had Leliana framed, tortured, and left for dead along with sending assassins after her while pretending it was just a singing telegram. My decision to kill her is my way of making sure she doesn't come back for Leliana again after we all part ways in the end.

Out of curiousity, do you prefer hardened Leliana or default Leliana?

[soignee]

I can't bring myself to harden Leliana, even on Missa. (not enough space in DDW to write about Leli, sadly. It's all Zevran/Alistair/Morrigan, and oddly Sten.)

[Giggles_Manically]

Gilsa wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

I don't even get sparing Marjolaine. It somewhat irks me that I have to suggest to Leliana to kill her. Rather if I wanted to spare Marjolaine, I should talk Leliana OUT of killing her rather than tell her to kill the **** and then listen to her freak out afterwards knowing that ITS MY FAULT that I told Leliana in the first place. Imagine suggesting to Alistair that Loghain should be killed. Much better to try to talk him out of it and fail.

Going by the Toolset notes this fits supposed morals of Leliana, actually. It says the following:

Her concept of good is more 'nice' than 'good' (e.g. would let one seemingly penitent bandit go to be nice, rather than turn him in for his crimes)

so it makes sense she'd prefer for Marjolaine to just 'go away' even if she's scared of her. I actually liked that in her -- when everyone else in game gets all "stabstabkill" whenever something gets in their personal way it gets rather boring. That was a refreshing change of pace.

That is true. I was looking at the larger picture (and partly reacting out of protectiveness). A common thief is one thing, but this was a woman who had Leliana framed, tortured, and left for dead along with sending assassins after her while pretending it was just a singing telegram. My decision to kill her is my way of making sure she doesn't come back for Leliana again after we all part ways in the end.

Out of curiousity, do you prefer hardened Leliana or default Leliana?

Her banter with Zevran and MOrrigan is ten times better when she is hardened. ie Zevran tries to hit one her, and then she dares him to drop his pants so she can make sure she is getting a good deal if she does indeed go with him. Needless to say Zevran backed down so quickly it was hilarious.

[Sarah1281]

I got sick of hearing all about Leliana plans to go help with the Ashes so I started hardening her so she could actually do something useful in the Deep Roads. That may not be the BEST reason but...oh well.

[Costin_Razvan]

soignee wrote...

I can't bring myself to harden Leliana, even on Missa. (not enough space in DDW to write about Leli, sadly. It's all Zevran/Alistair/Morrigan, and oddly Sten.)

So you are going to kill Loghain, huh?

[soignee]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

soignee wrote...

I can't bring myself to harden Leliana, even on Missa. (not enough space in DDW to write about Leli, sadly. It's all Zevran/Alistair/Morrigan, and oddly Sten.)

So you are going to kill Loghain, huh?

sayinnnnnnnnnnnnnng nothingggggggggggggggg.

Lolol I wrote like 4000 words and I've not even got to the deep roads yet.

fffffffffffffffffffffff-

[Costin_Razvan]

Soignee...I know that an author likes his plot twists and all that, but I am simply going to say that I won't bother reading it if you are just going to kill Loghain. I certainly had enough of FFs that kill Loghain.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Soignee...I know that an author likes his plot twists and all that, but I am simply going to say that I won't bother reading it if you are just going to kill Loghain. I certainly had enough of FFs that kill Loghain.

Harsh but I'm sure if it goes the other way a lot of Alistair fans will jump ship. There's just no winning with that decision...

[soignee]

I'll PM you if you're that desperate to find out why and how what happens, Costin, but DDW is fairly unsubtle due to Missa's bluntness and weird pragamatism, frankly. Hmm, maybe I should mix it up because of that. Hmmm.

[Sarah1281]

So I showed my commission to my dad and once he had figured out that the blonde girl was my character he decided that he didn't trust Gorim.