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[Lady Jess]

Gilsa wrote...

Pfft, Lel's always been awesome. I can get if people tire of her ninja-romance or her chantry enthusiasm, but not if it's based on a rumor in a codex of a DLC nobody really plays.

I've never really hated her. I just never "got" her. This is actually helping a bit.  Though I gotta say, I expected better looks from the "special item" grumbles.

[Gilsa]

Have you finished it yet? Still in the middle of playing. Tug had a witty retort to something Sketch said and I was just ROFLing. Man, I love dwarves, I really do.

[Lady Jess]

Gilsa wrote...

Have you finished it yet? Still in the middle of playing. Tug had a witty retort to something Sketch said and I was just ROFLing. Man, I love dwarves, I really do.

JUST ended it a minute ago.

[Patriciachr34]

Did any of you have mods that change Lelianna's Appearance? I would like to know if they transfer. I really like the Improved Atmosphere version I currently have installed.

[Lady Jess]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

Did any of you have mods that change Lelianna's Appearance? I would like to know if they transfer. I really like the Improved Atmosphere version I currently have installed.

No, they don't...which makes sense since this is before she herself changed her looks.

[Gilsa]

I saw a brief explanation in the Lel thread last night explaining where to look to change Lel's DLC head. tmp's unisex mods work great here though.

[Patriciachr34]

Thanks for the info. Now I won't be disappointed.

[Corker]

Dwarf Thread, quick question! What reason does Gorim give for not waiting for Lady Aeducan? Does he think that she died in the Deep Roads or at Ostagar?

[Sarah1281]

Gilsa wrote...

Pfft, Lel's always been awesome. I can get if people tire of her ninja-romance or her chantry enthusiasm, but not if it's based on a rumor in a codex of a DLC nobody really plays.

Oh, believe me, that's hardly my reason for finding her dull. In fact, as long as I didn't have to put up with second-hand 'as King I must break up with the love of my life' angst for marrying him off to Anora then they are welcome to each other.

[Sarah1281]

Corker wrote...

Dwarf Thread, quick question! What reason does Gorim give for not waiting for Lady Aeducan? Does he think that she died in the Deep Roads or at Ostagar?

He says that he never gave up hope she was alive but also that he didn't expect to find her on the Surface. I'm not sure I buy that he never thought she died since the Deep Roads was a death trap and her only avenue of escape was part of an order that all died at Ostagar but that's all he'll admit to. Plus while he doesn't actually tell you this, you've got to wonder just how much of his marrying into a Denerim established family was out of necessity since he's injured and so can't fight plus he knows nothing about the Surface.

[Costin_Razvan]

I suspect a lot of Gorim fans will like me for what I am about to do in chapter 5 "Smirks"

I might be hated for it as well though.....

Anyway, a few more ME2 pics!

Meet John Shepard also known as Che Guevara. ( nothing personal to the Americans here )

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 06 juillet 2010 - 06:46 .

[Gilsa]

Corker wrote...

Dwarf Thread, quick question! What reason does Gorim give for not waiting for Lady Aeducan? Does he think that she died in the Deep Roads or at Ostagar?

Hard to put a finger on this because the things he says contradict each other. I think because his main dialogue is "one-size-fits-all" and then extra dialogue was added in for the specific romance itself.

He tells the standard DN that he never gave up hope that the DN survived and he's thrilled to see that the DN is actually alive. He goes into his segue about King Endrin's final moments. Then with the standard DN, he will explain why he cannot be a party member with his broken-and-improperly-healed leg and his surface obligations. With the female romantic interest, there's an awkward shift into "my lady ... if I had thought to see you again ..."

Female DN: "I'm happy we're together once more."
Gorim: "My lady... if I had thought to see you again..."
Gorim: "You will always be in my heart. But we both knew it wouldn't truly work out."
Gorim: "Here on the surface, I've found someone. My-my wife is a good woman, the daughter of the best smith in Denerim."
Gorim: "We're... expecting our firstborn before the spring."
Female DN: "But... what about us?"
Gorim: "Even in Orzammar, we both knew it couldn't last. I was honored by the time we shared, but..."
Gorim: "You are a princess. I'm not even a warrior anymore." (VO: I'm not good enough for you.)

So I would probably go with their love being true, but unattainable. This is consistent with the things he said in origins "assasinate me before Lady Aeducan marries beneath her." They enjoyed the time they had together with no realistic expecations for the future.

To the female DN, he tells her he found a good woman. To everyone else, he says he found his heart. So I personally like to interpret that as finding someone he truly fell in love with and could be with openly.

Hope all that helps, Corker. Interpret it how you will.

Modifié par Gilsa, 06 juillet 2010 - 06:48 .

[Corker]

As promised:

Closer to My Heart
- Lady Aeducan does Country and Western

Modifié par Corker, 06 juillet 2010 - 06:51 .

[Sarah1281]

To the female DN, he tells her he found a good woman. To everyone else, he says he found his heart. So I personally like to interpret that as finding someone he truly fell in love with and could be with openly.

I'm probably being selfish but...I'd rather that when you run into him again as a LI then he's married to someone that he could fall in love with and will in the future but isn't in love with yet as opposed to him being in love with his wife when you meet him again with everyone else. Being that easily replaceable would just REALLY suck.

[Costin_Razvan]

Ah yes, because men are supposed to be heartless dicks who can simply just easily accept that the one they loved is being sentenced to die in the Deep Roads and even if she survived that she died at Ostagar. Perhaps he should just simply man up and wait for her regardless of how stricken with sorrow her is. ( If there is a reason I don't get Alistair to -100 in all my playthroughs and then kill him at the Landsmeet every time it is because I understand his grief despite my utter dislike of how he handles it )

So yes, it is incredibly selfish to judge him like that.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 06 juillet 2010 - 07:00 .

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Ah yes, because men are supposed to be heartless dicks who can simply just easily accept that the one they loved is being sentenced to die in the Deep Roads and even if she survived that she died at Ostagar. Perhaps he should just simply man up and wait for her regardless of how stricken with sorrow her is.

So yes, it is incredibly selfish to judge him like that.

I'm not judging him and I'm not complaining that he didn't wait. I just don't want to think that he got over her that quickly and is now in love with someone else in such a short span of time. There is reason to believe he married for reasons other than love and given that he tells non-romanced DN's that he found his heart then there is also reason to believe that he can be very happy with her. I'd just rather believe that he doesn't fall in love until, say, a few months later.

Edit: Oh, and your scenario of him dealing with his grief over losing her doesn't really fit with the 'totally over and in love with someone new' scenario that I dislike. What part of that equals 'why didn't you wait for me forever, you bastard?!?!'

Modifié par Sarah1281, 06 juillet 2010 - 07:02 .

[Lady Jess]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Ah yes, because men are supposed to be heartless dicks who can simply just easily accept that the one they loved is being sentenced to die in the Deep Roads and even if she survived that she died at Ostagar. Perhaps he should just simply man up and wait for her regardless of how stricken with sorrow her is.

So yes, it is incredibly selfish to judge him like that.

He actually knows there's a chance that you survive the deep roads. Since he's the one that tells you about metting up with Duncan...in a message from Harrowmont when he visits you in your cell. What he can't be sure of is that you survived Ostagar.  And actually no it's not selfish to hope that he's with someone he can love if not now, later, while hoping he didn't forget you THAT easily. It's HUMAN. 

[Costin_Razvan]

To hope? No it's not. To judge him for it, yes it is.

 : Oh, and your scenario of him dealing with his grief over losing her doesn't really fit with the 'totally over and in love with someone new' scenario that I dislike.

Is it so incredibly hard to imagine that he could fall in love with someone who brought him comfort during such a period? I have seen it before.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 06 juillet 2010 - 07:04 .

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

To hope? No it's not. To judge him for it, yes it is.

I never said I was judging him. As a matter of fact, I don't judge him for it. I just hope that he hasn't already completely moved on and is in love with his wife at the time you first meet up with him in Denerim. I understand it's a possibility, though, which is why I wouldn't ever ask him because I wouldn't want to hear the answer.

[Sarah1281]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

To hope? No it's not. To judge him for it, yes it is.

 : Oh, and your scenario of him dealing with his grief over losing her doesn't really fit with the 'totally over and in love with someone new' scenario that I dislike.

Is it so incredibly hard to imagine that he could fall in love with someone who brought him comfort during such a period? I have seen it before.

I'm not saying he cannot or should not fall in love with her. I would just rather that it happened in the future and not immediately as that would be less hurtful to the girl he was previously dating and mourning. Still not judging him if that's not how it happened but I don't want to know otherwise and I think he'd have the sense not to mention it.

[Costin_Razvan]

It's why he doesn't mention it to a DNF when he meets her I suppose. Hell I doubt anyone with some semblance of dignity would unless asked, repeatedly

[Gilsa]

Corker wrote...

As promised:

Closer to My Heart
- Lady Aeducan does Country and Western

WOW. That was moving. I am truly in awe. That was just ... wow.

[Costin_Razvan]

Just read it....I am impressed Corker.

Edit: Hammerhead video. Managed to improve it's damage, firing rate above the reduced delay in shield regen and amount regenerated every second. It makes it very hard to take down IF you keep moving, which was what I believe how the Hammerhead should be: A fast light moving vehicle that fires very fast but can take some beating.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 06 juillet 2010 - 07:49 .

[Gilsa]

@tmp -- thanks for your dwarf underwear update!

[Sarah1281]

So I finally managed to finish Chapter Fifteen! Now whenever I get Leliana's Song I can play it without worrying that I should be writing.