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[Costin_Razvan]

Here is Duran, in the IA Paragon Set.

[KnightofPhoenix]

I miss Orzammar already. I assume you're playing the PC version Costin?

The details are lusher. And I wonder if art is also based on caste, like the artisans? Who drew those paintings or designes decorations?

[Costin_Razvan]

Indeed, on the PC. And yes I miss Orzammar too...

[Herr Uhl]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The details are lusher. And I wonder if art is also based on caste, like the artisans? Who drew those paintings or designes decorations?

There is no artisans guild though. Might be servant caste branching off.

[Sarah1281]

There is an artisan caste, though. It's after smith and before miner.

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

There is an artisan caste, though. It's after smith and before miner.

There is? Do we ever meet someone coming from it?

[Raonar]

Well, if we're doing this.

Then here. Raonar Aeducan in all his Bard Bewitching Glory.

Modifié par Raonar, 12 juillet 2010 - 09:14 .

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

There is an artisan caste, though. It's after smith and before miner.

There is? Do we ever meet someone coming from it?

I don't think so but if you ask the Shaper about the castes then he tells you that "According to our legends, seven brothers founded our empire. The youngest, Bloadlikk, was the wisest and was chosen king. His children formed the Noble Caste. The eldest, Kioshett, trained his sons to defend their king. They became the Warrior Caste. Shotkyar founded the artisans; Orzatyar forged our first swords. It was Orzammar who dug the mines that became our city's foundations. The twins Koapar and Knakkt both founded trading houses, but Knakkt was wounded in battle. On his recovery, he swore to serve his brother's sons."

Edit: Though he does seem sad if he has to tell the DN that he can't acknowledge them despite his distaste for the casteless.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 12 juillet 2010 - 09:21 .

[Sarah1281]

Raonar wrote...

Well, if we're doing this.

Then here. Raonar Aeducan in all his Bard Bewitching Glory.

Does that mean he romances her? I hope she's open to moving to Orzammar...

[Raonar]

ah, this is in what happened in my last playthrough.

I was considering a Leliana romance for my fic but I haven't yet decided whether Raonar's old flame is still alive or not. Yes, massive spoiler. I'm worried that if I add his lover's death on top of everything else, I might get accused of turning him into a Gary Stu (too much tragedy in his past or something).

Modifié par Raonar, 12 juillet 2010 - 09:27 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Sarah do you have the toolset notes for the shaper talking to a DC. I went past that part but forgot to talk to him that much, or at all. Is he more disgusted at you, or saddened at you. I couldnt tell.

[Sarah1281]

The DN gets:

PC: I am no stranger to Orzammar, my Lord Shaper.

Shaper: Your exile is written in the Memories, Warden. I am sorry, but Orzammar cannot be your home, nor I your shaper. (VO: Sad, grave) We must all obey the ancestor's rules. (VO: Pious)



For the casteless, he speaks about them in general with distaste and after he says they should all die young the DC gets:

PC: Is that what should have happened to me?

Shaper: I'm sorry. I can speak with you as a Warden, but I cannot discuss your belief that you have previously been to Orzammar. (VO: Flat -- he is telling the player that no one will apologize for the hell that his life here was.) Your presence here was not recorded in the Memories. You do not exist. (VO: Flat)



It's even worse since every other time you stop talking to him he gives you either "Your presence here has been recorded in the Memories. I wish I knew what significance it has. (VO: Solemn, slightly worried)" or "Your presence here has been recorded in the Memories. I wish you well." depending on whether there's a King yet. Obviously, he's a lot more likeable as a DN or even a non-dwarf than to a casteless. He clearly doesn't really see the exiled DN as a true casteless but understands that since they've been exiled and reported dead it's an awkward legal status for everybody.

[Raonar]

Sarah1281 wrote...

The DN gets:
PC: I am no stranger to Orzammar, my Lord Shaper.
Shaper: Your exile is written in the Memories, Warden. I am sorry, but Orzammar cannot be your home, nor I your shaper. (VO: Sad, grave) We must all obey the ancestor's rules. (VO: Pious)

For the casteless, he speaks about them in general with distaste and after he says they should all die young the DC gets:
PC: Is that what should have happened to me?
Shaper: I'm sorry. I can speak with you as a Warden, but I cannot discuss your belief that you have previously been to Orzammar. (VO: Flat -- he is telling the player that no one will apologize for the hell that his life here was.) Your presence here was not recorded in the Memories. You do not exist. (VO: Flat)

It's even worse since every other time you stop talking to him he gives you either "Your presence here has been recorded in the Memories. I wish I knew what significance it has. (VO: Solemn, slightly worried)" or "Your presence here has been recorded in the Memories. I wish you well." depending on whether there's a King yet. Obviously, he's a lot more likeable as a DN or even a non-dwarf than to a casteless. He clearly doesn't really see the exiled DN as a true casteless but understands that since they've been exiled and reported dead it's an awkward legal status for everybody.

Meh, dwarven tradition generally sucks either way.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Good news everyone. First dwarven badass in DA2

[Herr Uhl]

Edit: Ninja'd *shakes fist*

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 12 juillet 2010 - 09:48 .

[Raonar]

I hate him already. He looks like someone with Bhelen's airs, but not his brains.

[Herr Uhl]

Leader of a sect or order of some sort, not looking like a fighter and a hawt underling.



I like him.

[KnightofPhoenix]

And one hell of a smirk. I like him also.

[Sarah1281]

Raonar wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

The DN gets:
PC: I am no stranger to Orzammar, my Lord Shaper.
Shaper: Your exile is written in the Memories, Warden. I am sorry, but Orzammar cannot be your home, nor I your shaper. (VO: Sad, grave) We must all obey the ancestor's rules. (VO: Pious)

For the casteless, he speaks about them in general with distaste and after he says they should all die young the DC gets:
PC: Is that what should have happened to me?
Shaper: I'm sorry. I can speak with you as a Warden, but I cannot discuss your belief that you have previously been to Orzammar. (VO: Flat -- he is telling the player that no one will apologize for the hell that his life here was.) Your presence here was not recorded in the Memories. You do not exist. (VO: Flat)

It's even worse since every other time you stop talking to him he gives you either "Your presence here has been recorded in the Memories. I wish I knew what significance it has. (VO: Solemn, slightly worried)" or "Your presence here has been recorded in the Memories. I wish you well." depending on whether there's a King yet. Obviously, he's a lot more likeable as a DN or even a non-dwarf than to a casteless. He clearly doesn't really see the exiled DN as a true casteless but understands that since they've been exiled and reported dead it's an awkward legal status for everybody.

Meh, dwarven tradition generally sucks either way.

But it sucks more if you're casteless then virtually anyone else.

[Kryyptehk]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Good news everyone. First dwarven badass in DA2

He had me when I saw his awesome trenchcoat with the sexy red/gold tunic. Those are, like, my two favorite clothing on one man. AND he's a dwarf. Quick! I need smelling salts so I won't faint:lol:

[Herr Uhl]

 

Mary Kirby wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

If I could romance that hunk of man-meat, I would.

He's a terrible flirt, and something of a heartbreaker. I'd be careful, if I were you.

From Mary about dwarf-man.

[Sarah1281]

Does that mean he's a LI?

[tmp7704]

It's probably Mary just being coy, but then can't entirely rule that out.

[Herr Uhl]

Yeah, I'd take that as coyness. If I would have to guess I'd guess at a Teagan situation.

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Yeah, I'd take that as coyness. If I would have to guess I'd guess at a Teagan situation.

You're voluntarily comparing a character you might like to Teagan? Are you feeling okay?