Patriciachr34 wrote...
I'm sorry. My first DN play through left me with Gorim bitterness in my mouth. First, he marries another woman. Then, when my house is restored he wants to coat tail back into my good graces. I saw him as an opportunist. Course, my DN walked around with a royal stick up her axx, but still his over excitement at the prospect of going back to Orzamar really put me off.
I just started a new DN. She's a lot more personable, talked to the merchants rather than through her second, and wanted to participate in the provings. We'll see how the whole Gorim thing plays out with her.
I wasn't happy about what happened with Gorim either but to me it's more practicality than he doesn't care. He's a warrior raised to serve as a nobleman's second so he's good at fighting, taking care of the little things the noble needs, and understanding politics. He's exiled from Orzammar so there goes all of the political training and there really is no equivalent to a second in the human courts besides, perhaps, using a lesser noble if you're important enough. He's also greatly injured and so can't fight anymore. Dwarves on the surface tend to either be a thug (like Dwyn although he had his own thugs because he was just that good), merchants, and smiths. Gorim can't be a thug because of his injury, he knows nothing of smithing, and has no connections to be a decent merchant. According to Felsi, the Denerim surface dwarves are just as political as as those in Orzammar and that Gorim does understand. He marries the daughter of one of the most prestigious smithing Houses in Denerim and can now support himself selling the wares. Sure it isn't a glamorous life and he isn't nearly as happy as he claims (or else why the urge to return to Orzammar? I really think he's just trying to make you feel better when he says that he likes the surface better) but it is a way to survive and he could do worse.
While I'm annoyed he couldn't have waited, I do understand it was just being sensible and finding a way to earn a living. Besides, surviving long enough to find the Grey Wardens before they reach the surface is a long-shot and if Duncan wasn't there because the Warden had a different origin then there was even less hope. Since we know that Gorim took his time leaving after he got exiled and was still around for Endrin to change his mind about needing the throne to stay in the family, that puts him getting married at after Ostagar where if Lady Aeducan had managed to survive and become a Warden she was presumably dead as all the Wardens were said to have died there.
And then there's the end. Sure Gorim is content with his life on the surface but he wants to go home. If you talk to him a second time he says he can't wait to get back underground and never got used to the sky. His wife and child are never mentioned so I'm not sure if they died in the attack on Denerim, they're coming too, or he's leaving them (unlikely as that's a very dishonorable thing to do). You and he are both allowed to return to Orzammar as Gorim being your second means he suffers from all your defeats and benefits from all of your triumphs. If Harrowmont is king you're the head of House Aeducan but either way you'll soon be a Paragon and Gorim was raised to be a member of House Aeducan, too (the funeral for the DN makes this clear). I got the impression that restoring the caste of those who have been caste out is unprecedented (and in fact there's a vote that takes place in the Assembly a week after the DN origin about whether to give surfacers their caste back and it is defeated). He never thought he'd be able to go home again because you got caught up in political infighting with your siblings and yet he still doesn't resent you and remains loyal (just not to the relationship and you could do the same). Of
course he'll be thrilled to be able to return and he's equally delighted about th news that you could become a Paragon.
We don't hear anything about if he can fight or not but that won't stop him from returning home and being your second is about more than just fighting. You don't have to take him up on it but given he was the only person outside of Harrowmont (who really doesn't help much) to offer you any sort of loyalty at all...Yeah, I just don't see him as an opportunist. If he were, he would have seen how things were playing out once Trian died, thrown his lot in with Bhelen, and remained in Orzammar as an uninjured warrior.
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