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[Herr Uhl]

No, not true.

It goes like this (in descending magnitude of awesome):
Bhelen
Sten
Sweeney
Leske
Gorim
Murdock
Morrigan

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 28 avril 2010 - 08:37 .

[Costin_Razvan]

he tries but he could never pull off such a brilliant Xanatos gambit like, say, the entire DN origin

Or like Morrigan who does it for the entire game

Herr: Where is Loghain on that list? I DEMAND JUSTICE.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 28 avril 2010 - 08:38 .

[Herr Uhl]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Or like Morrigan who does it for the entire game

Meh, that was Flemeth. Morrigan is just a copy-cat.

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Herr: Where is Loghain on that list? I DEMAND JUSTICE.

He fails at politics, just say that Anora has the throne and force her to do your bidding in secret, I mean really.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 28 avril 2010 - 08:40 .

[Sarah1281]

ejoslin wrote...

 This thread is missing dwarf kisses. (just the vanilla kiss slightly tweaked by me)


(The screenie is a modded kiss by Charsen).

Anyway, yeh, I think Bhelen looks a lot like Alistair as well. I wish Gorim were romanceable to a greater extent than a dumping in Denerim (though my Aeducan does like to tell him about her new love BEFORE said dumping).

But then you don't get to be righteously indignant and then go make yourself feel better by going straight from there to the Pearl for a foursome and then not leaving for a week! 

And yeah, even if he wasn't in the game much and was too injured to come with you, I wish he would have stayed single so if you had the self-control to do the same you could have a few lines about picking up where you left off once you get back to Orzammar now that he's an Aeducan as well so no more fear of scandal and assassination.

[Costin_Razvan]

Meh, that was Flemeth. Morrigan is just a copy-cat.

Point made. Heh I would have wished to have Flemeth in my party. I would not care if I had to lose Morrigan+Sten+Oghren+Zevran for it, for it sure as hell would be worth.



Darth Kreia 2.0 if you get my point.

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...

No, not true.

It goes like this (in descending magnitude of awesome):
Bhelen
Sten
Sweeney
Leske
Gorim
Murdock
Morrigan

I don't quite get the Sweeney placement but then I've only played the Mage origin once and didn't get him to sign off on that form. Is it his 'feel free to harass the Templars kid' approach that does it? And the fact his being old, despite its continual reference, isn' as obnoxious as Wynne's? What I can't for the life of me understand is why Leske and his terrified-of-Beraht-and-Jarvia-sister-lusting-backstabbing ways rates higher than Gorim?!?! He'll have people killed just for ticking you off!

[ejoslin]

Sarah1281 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

 This thread is missing dwarf kisses. (This video is just the vanilla kiss slightly tweaked by me)


(The screenie is a modded kiss by Charsen who makes incredible modded kisses).

Anyway, yeh, I think Bhelen looks a lot like Alistair as well. I wish Gorim were romanceable to a greater extent than a dumping in Denerim (though my Aeducan does like to tell him about her new love BEFORE said dumping).

But then you don't get to be righteously indignant and then go make yourself feel better by going straight from there to the Pearl for a foursome and then not leaving for a week! 

And yeah, even if he wasn't in the game much and was too injured to come with you, I wish he would have stayed single so if you had the self-control to do the same you could have a few lines about picking up where you left off once you get back to Orzammar now that he's an Aeducan as well so no more fear of scandal and assassination.

Really, I was hurt on my first Aeducan that he didn't wait.  Denerim was the first place I went on her, really looking forward to the reunion (yes, I should have known better).

Edit: actually, edited my first post to make it clear that the video is of mine, the screenie is of Charsen's.  He is SO good at making those kisses; I wish I could even begin to approach what he does.  Amazing eye.

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 avril 2010 - 08:45 .

[Sarah1281]

ejoslin wrote...
Really, I was hurt on my first Aeducan that he didn't wait.  Denerim was the first place I went on her, really looking forward to the reunion (yes, I should have known better).

Ditto. If you go to Denerim first (just to see how bad the GW rep really is, of course... ) you can still be the wronged party and not miss out on any romance time. You would have to save Isabela for later, though, as Zevran's not there and Leliana and Alistair aren't hardened by that point.

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I don't quite get the Sweeney placement but then I've only played the Mage origin once and didn't get him to sign off on that form. Is it his 'feel free to harass the Templars kid' approach that does it? And the fact his being old, despite its continual reference, isn' as obnoxious as Wynne's? What I can't for the life of me understand is why Leske and his terrified-of-Beraht-and-Jarvia-sister-lusting-backstabbing ways rates higher than Gorim?!?! He'll have people killed just for ticking you off!

Sweeney has been close to my heart ever since my first playthrough (mage). And missing the cold chair is just pure win. I like old people raving about "the good old days" for some reason, he is still young at heart though. Edit: It might be that he reminds me of my granddad.

The problem with Gorim is the brown stuff that is all over his nose.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 28 avril 2010 - 08:55 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Who is Sweeney? Maybe I am missing something here....

[ejoslin]

Sarah1281 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Really, I was hurt on my first Aeducan that he didn't wait.  Denerim was the first place I went on her, really looking forward to the reunion (yes, I should have known better).

Ditto. If you go to Denerim first (just to see how bad the GW rep really is, of course... ) you can still be the wronged party and not miss out on any romance time. You would have to save Isabela for later, though, as Zevran's not there and Leliana and Alistair aren't hardened by that point.

That's what ZevranASAP is for!  But I admit, I more often play cards with Isabela at this point.  Leliana is too annoying to get her to love, and Zevran's approval raises too fast as it is!

[Addai]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Who is Sweeney? Maybe I am missing something here....

I believe they're referring to Senior Enchanter Sweeney, the absent professor guy in the mage origin.

Modifié par Addai67, 28 avril 2010 - 09:25 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Oh. I see.

[Sarah1281]

The problem with Gorim is the brown stuff that is all over his nose.

You know, between this and your hatred of Teagan I'm starting to think you just go out of your way to hate on all the awesome guys. I forget, what makes you think he's a brown-noser? If it's the 'ignoring his wife and kid at the post-coronation' I presume they'll be coming back, too, and why can't an exile be thrilled to be able to return home, especially if (as the toolset indicates) that's unprecedented for Orzammar? And why not offer to be your second again? At this point he's the only one in Orzammar you know you can trust and your House either hates you for killing anyone reasonably important and kicking them off the throne or you have to keep an eye out for Bhelen deciding you're a threat again.

Who is Sweeney? Maybe I am missing something here....

Sweeney is one of the senior enchanters at the Circle Tower during the Mage origin who manages to talk about how old he is without being annoying and who can sign off on giving you a fire rod to go annoy the Templars.

That's what ZevranASAP is for! But I admit, I more often play cards with Isabela at this point. Leliana is too annoying to get her to love, and Zevran's approval raises too fast as it is!

That's what skipping over all her dialogue to get her high enough to harden her is for, too. And you could just wait until Zevran has the highest approval he's get before Talisen shows up again before finding Isabela. It's not like the Duelist specialization is locked at this point, right?

[ejoslin]

Sarah1281 wrote...

That's what skipping over all her dialogue to get her high enough to harden her is for, too. And you could just wait until Zevran has the highest approval he's get before Talisen shows up again before finding Isabela. It's not like the Duelist specialization is locked at this point, right?

Hasn't been locked since the first threesome with Isabela, Alistair, and my PC   But you're right.  I do esc through most of Lel's dialog at this point -- but still, hmmmmmm.  I like the card game!  I'm just weird that way.

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 avril 2010 - 09:29 .

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

The problem with Gorim is the brown stuff that is all over his nose.

You know, between this and your hatred of Teagan I'm starting to think you just go out of your way to hate on all the awesome guys. I forget, what makes you think he's a brown-noser? If it's the 'ignoring his wife and kid at the post-coronation' I presume they'll be coming back, too, and why can't an exile be thrilled to be able to return home, especially if (as the toolset indicates) that's unprecedented for Orzammar? And why not offer to be your second again? At this point he's the only one in Orzammar you know you can trust and your House either hates you for killing anyone reasonably important and kicking them off the throne or you have to keep an eye out for Bhelen deciding you're a threat again.

I don't hate Gorim, I like him. But the tone that he speaks to you in is too obsequious for me, he always agrees with you. I know that it's his job and all, but it feels a little forced at times. I still love him, but not more than Leske.

Teagan I hate though. But that is due to my conviction that he sleeps with Isolde behind Eamon's back.

[Sarah1281]

ejoslin wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

That's what skipping over all her dialogue to get her high enough to harden her is for, too. And you could just wait until Zevran has the highest approval he's get before Talisen shows up again before finding Isabela. It's not like the Duelist specialization is locked at this point, right?

Hasn't been locked since the first threesome with Isabela, Alistair, and my PC   But you're right.  I do esc through most of Lel's dialog at this point -- but still, hmmmmmm.  I like the card game!  I'm just weird that way.

I still have flashbacks from that one time I tried to catch her cheating or beat her at cards wihout high enough dexterity OR Zevran in my party. It did not go well...

[LenoreAmell]

I have.

[Sarah1281]

I don't hate Gorim, I like him. But the tone that he speaks to you in is too obsequious for me, he always agrees with you. I know that it's his job and all, but it feels a little forced at times. I still love him, but not more than Leske.



Teagan I hate though. But that is due to my conviction that he sleeps with Isolde behind Eamon's back.

I just don't see someone as Teagan willing to ****** off/hurt his brother that much over ISOLDE of all people. Maybe if he had a less annoying wife I might be able to see it.



And if Gorim were really just a brown-noser why wouldn't he turn on you once it was clear that you were screwed? His testimony as your uber-loyal second would surely damn you and I'm sure he and Bhelen could have worked out a deal.



And what's with the Leske admiration? What did he ever do that was awesome OR badass ever? And you want to talk about brown-nosing what about him and Jarvia?

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

And if Gorim were really just a brown-noser why wouldn't he turn on you once it was clear that you were screwed? His testimony as your uber-loyal second would surely damn you and I'm sure he and Bhelen could have worked out a deal.

He always agrees with you, it just bothers me a bit. It's the über-loyal bit.

And what's with the Leske admiration? What did he ever do that was awesome OR badass ever? And you want to talk about brown-nosing what about him and Jarvia?

He doesn't suck up to your character, that is why I see him as superior (by a small margin). He sees you as an equal, not his boss.

And you are really defensive about Gorim.

[Sarah1281]

Herr Uhl wrote...
He doesn't suck up to your character, that is why I see him as superior (by a small margin). He sees you as an equal, not his boss.

And you are really defensive about Gorim.

It's the DN-mindset.  Besides, his loyalty is a nice contrast to everyone else willing to throw you to the darkspawn for the sake of appearances.

And Leske betraying you and then dismissing it with a 'oh, you'd have done the same' and trying to kill you on Jarvia's orders just really got to me. Of course HE say you as an equal: you were both low-level casteless carta thugs. With Gorim, he's a warrior serving as your second and you're the prince/princess. At least he can stay conscious in your presence? 

Modifié par Sarah1281, 28 avril 2010 - 09:54 .

[Herr Uhl]

Sarah1281 wrote...

 It's the DN-mindset.  Besides, his loyalty is a nice contrast to everyone else willing to throw you to the darkspawn for the sake of appearances.

And Leske betraying you and then dismissing it with a 'oh, you'd have done the same' and trying to kill you on Jarvia's orders just really got to me. Of course HE say you as an equal: you were both low-level casteless carta thugs. With Gorim, he's a warrior serving as your second and you're the prince/princess. At least he can stay conscious in your presence? 

Yeah, but it's the devotion that creeps me out a bit. If you RP someone who is in a loving relationship it makes more sense, but he still does the same thing if you are a real douche.

I still think that we should be able to bring Leske with us to Ostagar, what does he have to stay for?

[Costin_Razvan]

On that regard I believe they should just remove dog as a party member you get no matter what, and let you keep your unique Origin Companion ( Tamlen, Jowan, Gorim, Sorris ) and for him to be only available to HN

[Radahldo]

How long is the DN supposed to have known Gorim?

[Costin_Razvan]

I think seconds are assigned from a very young age, no?