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[Daerog]

Stoomkal wrote...

David's books may qualify as "pulp teen fiction" but that is about all. For Gawd's Sake... the man couldn't even get his own ideas correct about his own world!

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If I wrote a "Middle Earth" book and said Sauron came before Morgoth... would I be wrong, or a writer?

And If I am David Gaider and alot of the stuff in my books contradicts the world setting... what does that mean?

It means I am a bad writer... sorry.


EDIT: spelling...

I find it funny you talk about someone who couldn't get his world right and bring up middle earth. Tolkien also had a ton of inconsistencies in his world. He worked on ME almost his whole life, and he never did squash all the inconsistencies and unexplained content with his notes and drafts.
One example is Maiar can't have children, yet one did have one with an elf. Another is how did Ungoliant have children if she was a maia who "went native?"
The quick solution? Illuvitar allowed it. Pretty much like a wizard did it.
The Hobbit was rewritten to fit more with LotR, the parts about the ring and gollum.
Anyway, Gaider has the disadvantage of being on a deadline, unlike Tolkien who just started writing this stuff for fun and later got The Hobbit published.

Edit: Also, on the note that maiar can't have children but Luthien's mother was a maia is a huge plot hole, considering that the tale of Beren and Luthien is one of his more complete works. Whatever, Illuvitar allowed it, hurray...

Modifié par DaerogTheDhampir, 06 avril 2010 - 08:27 .

[Minaleth]

True about Tolkien, he is known for various inconsistencies and I recall he was also quite frustrated about getting everything right which proved to be impossible regarding the scope of his work.

Another "high literature" example - coincidentally I've just finished Jane Eyre, and yap it has some issues with timeline and stuff (and it's just one book). Does it make the book unreadable? Not a bit, it's excellent.
Inconsistencies again != bad writing

@ Manga vs. anime. As far as I know people are refering to maga canon and anime canon if they differ (as they often do). I never read anywhere that manga based anime is fanfic. 

Same with e.g. Blade runner - is the film fanfic? No way. It's an interpretation, adaptation.

Stoomkal wrote...
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If I wrote a "Middle Earth" book and said Sauron came before Morgoth... would I be wrong, or a writer?

No matter what YOU write about Middle Earth, it's fanfic, be it consistent or not. Unless you are hired by someone who owns the right to adapt Tolkien's work - then you would be adapting and interpreting and possibly working with original text.

No matter what we find among Tolkien's ME papers it is never gonna be fanfic, ever. I hope you don't think that history of ME published by Toklien's son is fanfic.

The fanfic is defined by that it's created by someone who doesn't own the rights to the toys he is playing with. And that is not the case of Gaider's books, yes?

Modifié par Minaleth, 06 avril 2010 - 09:17 .

[Nukenin]

Thanks, DaerogTheDhampir, saved me the trouble!



Stoomkal, you're a dogged troll, ain't ye?   If it means so much to your cultural heritage and upbringing that D.G.'s books be called fan-fiction, so be it.  I think D.G. said as much earlier in this thread.  No sense arguing when there's finger-pointing and laughing to be had!

[Srau]

I find it sick that an official can't come out and post among other users on a forum without being jumped to the throat and insulted by angry "the sun shines out of my ***" peoples.
Its a pretty effective way to ensure there is no dialogue, communication, you know : polite exchange of ideas, with them.

Modifié par Srau, 06 avril 2010 - 09:37 .