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[Canned Bullets]

For the Soldier and Vanguard class? I'm using a Soldier right now and I'm using the M-22, is it better than the M-27? Also for the Vanguard, what's the best all around shotgun?

Modifié par Canned Bullets, 03 avril 2010 - 07:46 .

[Kronner]

Pretty much comes down to personal preference. I like Claymore and Eviscerator the most. Scimitar is not my favourite.

[Tlazolteotl]

I like katana 'cos it's got the coolest name.

Yeah, that's what this game is reduced to. What sounds good, what looks good.

[Canned Bullets]

Kronner wrote...

Pretty much comes down to personal preference. I like Claymore and Eviscerator the most. Scimitar is not my favourite.

Something that's powerful and good against big enemies like Heavy Mechs and Thresher Maws.

[Tlazolteotl]

Hmm. If you want an actual analytical answer, I'd go with the Eviscerator.

It's got 1.25x multiplier against armour, shields, and barriers .. while the katana and scimitar gets a 1.5x multiplier against shield and barrier.



"Big enemies" like you say, have a yellow bar.



Besides, if you research shotgun shield piercing, Evi is plenty powerful against shields.

Claymore is heavy hitting, but one shot / reload is annoying.

[casedawgz]

I wish they'd given the Eviscerator a better name. The rest of them have kind of a cool sword motif going on, and there's just the EVISCERATOR,

[AntiChri5]

Dude do you know what eviscerate means?



Hell yeah.....

[themastakillah]

Kronner wrote...

Pretty much comes down to personal preference. I like Claymore and Eviscerator the most. Scimitar is not my favourite.

this.

I like the claymore. but the scimitar is a good choice too specially if u dont know how to handle the claymore.
but like he said it comes down to personal preference.
some info:

Modifié par themastakillah, 03 avril 2010 - 11:58 .

[SmokeyNinjas]

I used to take the Claymore on my Vanguard but now i normally stick with the Eviscerator as the power isn't far off & lets me take the Viper on the collector ship.
With the Soldier i stick with Scimitar so i can get off a few point blank hits while using AR.

[cruc1al]

Tlazolteotl wrote...

Hmm. If you want an actual analytical answer, I'd go with the Eviscerator.
It's got 1.25x multiplier against armour, shields, and barriers .. while the katana and scimitar gets a 1.5x multiplier against shield and barrier.

"Big enemies" like you say, have a yellow bar.

Besides, if you research shotgun shield piercing, Evi is plenty powerful against shields.
Claymore is heavy hitting, but one shot / reload is annoying.

Against shields the Eviscerator is on par with Katana when measured in DPS including reloading. Tried and tested. It does have a bit longer range though. The best shotgun against shields in that test is Scimitar, Claymore is second best.

Against armor, Eviscerator and Claymore are going to perform better, but Scimitar might still beat Eviscerator (not sure). Claymore is the winner against armor. Plus, Claymore can one-shot enemies the easiest.

If you use the reload trick, the Claymore will sweep the floor with the other shotguns.

[OniGanon]

What's wrong with the name Eviscerator? To eviscerate means to rip out the entrails; seems a good name for a shotgun. Sure it doesn't follow the naming pattern of the other shotguns, but iirc it's not made by a normal manufacturer either.



Anyway, the shotguns all seem pretty well balanced and the best one that suits you will depend on what you want it for and how you play.



Some people like the plain old Katana. It's more forgiving than the Eviscerator with a higher fire rate and more shots per clip, but still packs a good amount of punch per shot. It seems to me the weapon has slight ammo problems compared to other shotguns though, maybe that's just me.



Scimitar is the lower damage, rapid fire shotgun. With the fire rate and more shots per clip, it's even more forgiving than the Katana and is the best shotgun for stripping defenses off multiple enemies, readying them for crowd control. It's kinda like the shotgun version of the Viper, I guess.



The Eviscerator is a great all-rounder shotgun and a pretty safe choice if you're not sure where your preferences lie. Packs a serious punch with each shot, 3 shots per clip, good accuracy (for a shotgun), and an armour multiplier.



The Claymore sits at the opposite end of the scale from the Scimitar, as the shotgun version of the Widow. One very powerful shot and then you need to reload. You need to learn the reload trick to make the best use of it, else it falls behind other shotguns. The shotgun most punishing of your mistakes, but the greatest damage of them all when used right.

[OniGanon]

Katana needs more love...

[Canned Bullets]

What's the reload trick for the claymore? And I picked the Revenant for my Soldier.

[Iz Stoik zI]

Canned Bullets wrote...

What's the reload trick for the claymore? And I picked the Revenant for my Soldier.

While reloading, if you melee when about 60% of the animation is done, it will cancel the rest of the animation and let you fire much earlier. I'm not twitchy enough to do it, but a lot of people have success with the Claymore using this trick. 

Check out Kronner's vids here, he uses the Claymore very effectively:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/128/index/1061080/1

[Nexolek]

OniGanon wrote...

Katana needs more love...

I gave it love. It's in my sig.

Also, this. They all do just fine. It's all about what feels good in your hands.

[Canned Bullets]

Just got the Claymore, I know the reload trick, just need to practice it more, not sure whether its better than the Eviscerator or Scimitar. Schimitar is good for shooting multiple enemies, but it doesn't have the Stopping Power of the Eviscerator or Claymore, and the 1 shot thing is annoying against enemies like Krogans and Harbinger.

Modifié par Canned Bullets, 06 avril 2010 - 08:32 .

[Xpheyel]

 AFAIK, there is no right answer. I suck with anything except the Evi, so I use the Evi. Plenty of people can apparently use the Claymore and Scimitar effectively though.

[MaaZeus]

Eviscerator IMHO. Claymore may be more powefull, but it is too risky. If your foe doesnt die, you are in grave danger and especially if there are other enemies around. Eviscerator is powerful, accurate in medium range and is also moderately effective against armor. Also 3 ammo clip makes it bit safer to use than Claymore.



Katana and Scimitar are safe bets, good strength and no need to worry about ammo that much. Just not very accurate and effective against armor. Unfortunately they tend to get bit overshadowed by other guns.

[Grunt420]

check it out





http://social.bioware.com/brc/1326930