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[Godak]

I didn't cry, but I did feel a sense of uneasiness for the rest of the day. It was quite profound, IMO.

[Cenwyn]

Mirthadrond wrote...

Sorry, my iPhone won't allow me to post in the body...

After 50 hours of play my super good human Nobel performed the Ultimate sacrifice, and during the epilogue I was so moved by the experience I actually cried.

I've been playing computer games and RPGs since the dawn of time, and have NEVER been moved so much by a game.
As i watched the credits roll, and listened to the haunting music, tears were rolling down my cheeks.
I was glad nobody was witnessing my break down, yet at the same time felt justified. Like I'd lost a close friend.
I'm not the type to cry, normally. I think the last time was some ten years ago when my grandmother died.

So? Am I alone here? Did other tough guys weep at the end?
Did you feel a deep sense of melancholy afterwards?

THAT my friends, is the result of superb writing.

Not that I don't have complaints about aspects of the game, but overall my 1st play was an intense emotional experience, and I will never forget it.

Thank you bioware for finally giving me a better holy crap moment than the Trex in tomb raider.
I've been waiting a long time.

I will admit I am rather I tend to be a tough girl and it can take a lot sometimes to make me cry. However this is the first game I have ever played that took, me to an emotional level that was a said above very intense. I cried when my companions made their speeches at the final battle. I cried when I made the mistake of taking Alistair with me to do the ulitmate sacrifice (I had planned to do it) but he did and there was not way could stop him. I cried in the instances where we were in a relationship and we were forever seperated. I cried at end because my companions who were my now my family had to part ways as life makes you do. Best damn crying sessions I have ever had! Now that is what a game should do, make you laugh, cry, cuss, smile and keep you going back for more! Hope DAO 2 is just as intense.

[Axekix]

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.



DR all the way!

[MEUTRIERE]

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Sacrificing yourself to save the world or trapping the soul of an evil dragon in a child, only to give that child to a mysterious witch who knows spells to take over bodies, just so you can survive in the end.

You're right.  The DR is the lesser of two evils.

[Sarah1281]

Yes, cause the ultimate meaning of life is to die in the best fashion possible

Well, since you're not only dying but destroying your own soul and basically ceasing to exist in any manner at all, it had BETTER be spectacular.

I'll probably end up doing the US to my HNF who married Alistair, just because I don't plan on importing her or anything.

Just don't take Alistair with you to the Archdemon, then.

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

It's not suicide, it's self-sacrifice and if you think that Morrigan can't be trusted not to unleash her evil god-baby upon the world and cause more damage than the Blight did and Alistair is slated to be King because you belive Anora can't be trusted and would make for a horrible solo ruler, it's the only option you CAN take. And we don't know it's non-canon. The option for the Orlesian means that they are allowing for the US endig to be taken into account and unless DA2 features the same PC as DA with no option for a new character or Morrigan's baby plays a large role in the plot, the DR won't be canon.

[sylvanaerie]

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Because sometimes it may seem right. Some PCs may not like Morrigan or the idea of her ritual. Some may tell her get lost at the start of the game (I never do but I know thats an option).

For my Cousland boy who romanced Leliana I couldn't accept Morrigan's ritual even if it meant dying in the battle.  And when she used Leliana as a bargaining chip in that conversation I wanted the option to squeeze her scrawny neck till her head popped off like a grape.  (again the PC's reasoning not mine I actually like Morrigan very much).

For some it can feel right and the ending takes on a bittersweet poignancy during that final fight knowing you (or Alistair or Loghain if you choose to sacrifice them) will die.  For me it feels more realistic than the DR endings which lack that emotional impact cause you know its all flash and pretty glitter, no substance.

[PunkNouveau13]

I was a bit teary when Alistair sacrificed himself for my HNF, also when I recruited Loghain while romancing Alistair :'-( and when everyone was saying their goodbyes at the gate; until I get to Shale "Have fun storming the castle" :-p

[MEUTRIERE]

Sarah1281 wrote...

I'll probably end up doing the US to my HNF who married Alistair, just because I don't plan on importing her or anything.

Just don't take Alistair with you to the Archdemon, then.

Oh, I know.  It sucks though, seeing as how I'll have no Alistair and no Morrigan, both of which are almost permanent members of my party.

[Zachriel]

The last time I cried was 13 years ago. I was 17 years old and my dog had just died.



So no, there was no moment in Dragon Age that moved me to tears. In fact, there is not a work of fiction in existence that could do so. It's not a tough guy thing, either. I could explain, but such an explanation would be very long and very personal. Suffice it to say that I don't upset easily, and I am unmoved by the deaths of fictional characters no matter how tragic they might be.

[Sresla]

Not even when Dumbledore died? Come on man, have you no SOUL?!

Edit: Spoiler: Snape killed Dumbledore.

Modifié par Sresla, 03 avril 2010 - 08:52 .

[Axekix]

MEUTRIERE wrote...

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Sacrificing yourself to save the world or trapping the soul of an evil dragon in a child, only to give that child to a mysterious witch who knows spells to take over bodies, just so you can survive in the end.

You're right.  The DR is the lesser of two evils.

I'm not talking about good/evil, I'm talking about what makes a better story.  US breaks the continuity.

Sarah1281 wrote...
 And we don't know it's non-canon. The
option for the Orlesian means that they are allowing for the US endig to
be taken into account and unless DA2 features the same PC as DA with no
option for a new character or Morrigan's baby plays a large role in the
plot, the DR won't be canon.

Well, since none of the DAO storyline flags carry over into Awakening if you make a new Warden that pretty much makes US non-canon.  There's nowhere else for that storyline to go, and it won't carry on to future expansions or sequels.  DAA's epilogue hints at more "adventures" for our warden down the line, so I don't think this is the last time we'll be playing our original DAO chars.

[Axekix]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Because sometimes it may seem right. Some PCs may not like Morrigan or the idea of her ritual. Some may tell her get lost at the start of the game (I never do but I know thats an option).

For my Cousland boy who romanced Leliana I couldn't accept Morrigan's ritual even if it meant dying in the battle.  And when she used Leliana as a bargaining chip in that conversation I wanted the option to squeeze her scrawny neck till her head popped off like a grape.  (again the PC's reasoning not mine I actually like Morrigan very much).

For some it can feel right and the ending takes on a bittersweet poignancy during that final fight knowing you (or Alistair or Loghain if you choose to sacrifice them) will die.  For me it feels more realistic than the DR endings which lack that emotional impact cause you know its all flash and pretty glitter, no substance.

Well I've never played US to compare, but I strongly disagree that DR lacks emotional impact and substance.  Especially if you've romanced Morrigan.  Neither one of these are really "happy" endings tbh.

[KnightPleasures]

Tears? NO but I was choked up see my Castless Dwarf Bilbo laying on the viewing slab was moving. Then to learn he was to be made a Paragon almost did me in....

[MEUTRIERE]

Axekix wrote...

MEUTRIERE wrote...

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Sacrificing yourself to save the world or trapping the soul of an evil dragon in a child, only to give that child to a mysterious witch who knows spells to take over bodies, just so you can survive in the end.

You're right.  The DR is the lesser of two evils.

I'm not talking about good/evil, I'm talking about what makes a better story.  US breaks the continuity.

No, you were talking about good and evil when you said "Suicide is never right!"
And the US only breaks the continuity if you play Awakenings with that character.  I didn't, so it doesn't break anything at all.

[Herr Uhl]

Must there be an established canon, and if there has to, why should that impact the choices I make?

[sylvanaerie]

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Because sometimes it may seem right. Some PCs may not like Morrigan or the idea of her ritual. Some may tell her get lost at the start of the game (I never do but I know thats an option).

For my Cousland boy who romanced Leliana I couldn't accept Morrigan's ritual even if it meant dying in the battle.  And when she used Leliana as a bargaining chip in that conversation I wanted the option to squeeze her scrawny neck till her head popped off like a grape.  (again the PC's reasoning not mine I actually like Morrigan very much).

For some it can feel right and the ending takes on a bittersweet poignancy during that final fight knowing you (or Alistair or Loghain if you choose to sacrifice them) will die.  For me it feels more realistic than the DR endings which lack that emotional impact cause you know its all flash and pretty glitter, no substance.

Well I've never played US to compare, but I strongly disagree that DR lacks emotional impact and substance.  Especially if you've romanced Morrigan.  Neither one of these are really "happy" endings tbh.

Since only a male can romance her (unless you use mods) that emotional impact is ONLY felt if you romance Morrigan.  Admittedly that is a really sh*tty ending to your romance and I DO feel for those who did romance her.  As most of my PCs are female though I get only the agony of sending Alistair (who is my prefered romantic NPC) to a woman I know he hates to save our lives.  The smug look on her face also makes me want to refuse but I never can on my females.  The only blessing that comes out of that is she disappears instead of sticking around to gloat on him.  Kind of...a let down actually emotionally.  Trust me its very lacking in the same kind of emotional impact that the US engenders.  (At least where I am concerned). I get to the ending and it does just feel like flash and glitter, no substance with the DR. 

[Axekix]

MEUTRIERE wrote...

Axekix wrote...

MEUTRIERE wrote...

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Sacrificing yourself to save the world or trapping the soul of an evil dragon in a child, only to give that child to a mysterious witch who knows spells to take over bodies, just so you can survive in the end.

You're right.  The DR is the lesser of two evils.

I'm not talking about good/evil, I'm talking about what makes a better story.  US breaks the continuity.

No, you were talking about good and evil when you said "Suicide is never right!"

Not in a good/evil, sense.  Suicide is a terrible choice for the Warden Commander (one of only 3-4 wardens left in Fereldan) when there's a much better alternative.

And creating a new Orlesian warden doesn't continue a US ending.  None of your storyline flags get imported, (ie if you killed Wynne, who you put on the throne, etc.) so it can't be canon.  Awakenings is a dead end for US players.

[TripLight]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Since only a male can romance her (unless you use mods) that emotional impact is ONLY felt if you romance Morrigan.  Admittedly that is a really sh*tty ending to your romance and I DO feel for those who did romance her.  As most of my PCs are female though I get only the agony of sending Alistair (who is my prefered romantic NPC) to a woman I know he hates to save our lives.  The smug look on her face also makes me want to refuse but I never can on my females.  The only blessing that comes out of that is she disappears instead of sticking around to gloat on him.  Kind of...a let down actually emotionally.  Trust me its very lacking in the same kind of emotional impact that the US engenders.  (At least where I am concerned). I get to the ending and it does just feel like flash and glitter, no substance with the DR. 

This. Honestly compared to the US and how you play your character, the DR can feel like a big fat cheap cheat. And I love Morrigan, almost all my characters are BF's with her, and I made a Dalish Male specifically to romance her.

[Epona222]

I haven't done that ending yet, I really must give it a go sometime but I really like to keep my characters and companions alive!



I do have an admission though, the first time I played the game I was a female city elf romancing Alistair, he dumped me after the Landsmeet and I did blub at that. I never finished that playthrough because I felt so maudlin about it!!!!

[Herr Uhl]

Axekix wrote...

Not in a good/evil, sense.  Suicide is a terrible choice for the Warden Commander (one of only 3-4 wardens left in Fereldan) when there's a much better alternative.

Yes, make a child of the old gods and take a gamble that it wont come back to bite you in the ass rather than importing a couple of wardens, stellar logic.

It's pitting the value of your life vs. the potential devastation that could come as a consequence, not suicide.

[Axekix]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Axekix wrote...

sylvanaerie wrote...

Axekix wrote...

How can people say it feels right to do US? Suicide is never right! And since Bioware isn't supporting that ending in awakenings anyway, it's completely non-canon now.

DR all the way!

Because sometimes it may seem right. Some PCs may not like Morrigan or the idea of her ritual. Some may tell her get lost at the start of the game (I never do but I know thats an option).

For my Cousland boy who romanced Leliana I couldn't accept Morrigan's ritual even if it meant dying in the battle.  And when she used Leliana as a bargaining chip in that conversation I wanted the option to squeeze her scrawny neck till her head popped off like a grape.  (again the PC's reasoning not mine I actually like Morrigan very much).

For some it can feel right and the ending takes on a bittersweet poignancy during that final fight knowing you (or Alistair or Loghain if you choose to sacrifice them) will die.  For me it feels more realistic than the DR endings which lack that emotional impact cause you know its all flash and pretty glitter, no substance.

Well I've never played US to compare, but I strongly disagree that DR lacks emotional impact and substance.  Especially if you've romanced Morrigan.  Neither one of these are really "happy" endings tbh.

Since only a male can romance her (unless you use mods) that emotional impact is ONLY felt if you romance Morrigan.  Admittedly that is a really sh*tty ending to your romance and I DO feel for those who did romance her.  As most of my PCs are female though I get only the agony of sending Alistair (who is my prefered romantic NPC) to a woman I know he hates to save our lives.  The smug look on her face also makes me want to refuse but I never can on my females.  The only blessing that comes out of that is she disappears instead of sticking around to gloat on him.  Kind of...a let down actually emotionally.  Trust me its very lacking in the same kind of emotional impact that the US engenders.  (At least where I am concerned). I get to the ending and it does just feel like flash and glitter, no substance with the DR. 

I've never played that far as a female, but if you warm up to Morrigan she eventually comes to think of you as a sister, no?  I would think that ending's impact could still be felt if you were close to her.  It's a bit disappointing to hear that's not the case.

Maybe US is the more powerful choice in that scenario.  Still, since it's not being supported in later games I don't see the point in it.

[Mirthadrond]

I know ther are lots of morrigan fans, so I can see how the DR ending could be moving, I just find it difficult to care for such a heartless woman.

Giving a child to such a woman??? MY child especially? Unthinkable.

Not even considering I wouldn't get to see him/her.... Ever?

Again..... Unthinkable.



None of my PCs have been that cold, to abandon them to a life with morrigan.



Yes, I know she had a bad upbringing, which only reenforces my thoughts.

People don't usually change much, unless forced to do so.

Maybe having a baby would change morrigan intensely?



I've certainly known men and women who didn't want kids, had one, and became a completely different person afterwards..... But..... Not a gamble I'd take with her.

[Herr Uhl]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Can someone tell me what DR stands for?

US stands for ultimate sacrifice, right?

Dark Ritual, make a God-baby with Morrigan.