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[Sago_mulch]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

O_O

If true is interesting coincidence.

I DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE AGREES WITH ME THAT THIS THREAD IS RACIST.

[Quaay]

I couldn't bring myself to romance any of the female LI's in ME2. Garrus and Thane would feel like coming on to my pet iguana and I'm not a zoophile. Jacob is just ugh. After the way my voice changed talking to him I couldn't talk to him again. I tried hitting on Jack and Tali but they weren't as into the idea so I made my first ever DudeShep just to try all the male LI's. So yea I do think males had better options than females this time around.

[Mallissin]

Sago_mulch wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

O_O

If true is interesting coincidence.

I DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE AGREES WITH ME THAT THIS THREAD IS RACIST.

YAH, MAN! WHAT'S WITH THE WHITE WOMEN? JACOB IS HOT! IF HE WAS BI, I'D DO HIM IN A LIGHT-SECOND!

AMIRIGHT?!

[Collider]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Why not?

Because it's perfectly possible for the humans in Mass Effect to grow up being taught that inter-species relationships are of no lesser value or no particular bias for or against them being applied. At the very least, there are self-sufficient colonies like Horizon which could probably have their own philosophy in regards to interspecies relationships. Likewise it's very possible that humans growing up around aliens would not have a particular aversion to aliens.

[Mallissin]

Quaay wrote...
Garrus and Thane would feel like coming on to my pet iguana and I'm not a zoophile.

RACIST! THE REPTILE HOUSE NEEDS SOME LOVING TOO!

[janeym27]

Collider wrote...

This is all subjective though, even though I enjoy having this discussion. Apologies to Johnny if you think I'm being hostile, because I'm not trying to be

Yeah... the fact that tone in text does not come over well, is one of the many reasons that discussions like this tend to end in name calling. lol. I am forever having my posts misinterpreted by posters I really enjoy, and it sucks. But I think we can all spot genuine discussions from trolling/offensive posters (I hope!! ). Subjectivity is the key.

There is a thesis in here somewhere: "the sexual politics of interspeices relationships in the year 2085, as examplified in the Mass Effect universe". Now to go and submit my funding applications and win some kind of awesome thesis-writing award and PhD!!! Tally ho!

[Mallissin]

Collider wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Why not?

Because it's perfectly possible for the humans in Mass Effect to grow up being taught that inter-species relationships are of no lesser value or no particular bias for or against them being applied. At the very least, there are self-sufficient colonies like Horizon which could probably have their own philosophy in regards to interspecies relationships. Likewise it's very possible that humans growing up around aliens would not have a particular aversion to aliens.

So, you're saying that preferences are taught? Does that mean homosexuality is taught? Don't answer that. Rhetorical question ment to boggle your mind.

Back on topic. I'd do the fish.

[Sago_mulch]

Quaay wrote...

I couldn't bring myself to romance any of the female LI's in ME2. Garrus and Thane would feel like coming on to my pet iguana and I'm not a zoophile. Jacob is just ugh. .

RACIST! YOU SHOULD LOVE EVERYBODY EVEN IF THEY DO HAVE SCALEY ASSES

[Onyx Jaguar]

Sago_mulch wrote...

Quaay wrote...

I couldn't bring myself to romance any of the female LI's in ME2. Garrus and Thane would feel like coming on to my pet iguana and I'm not a zoophile. Jacob is just ugh. .

RACIST! YOU SHOULD LOVE EVERYBODY EVEN IF THEY DO HAVE SCALEY ASSES

Especially if they have scaley asses.

[Collider]

Mallissin wrote...
So, you're saying that preferences are taught? Does that mean homosexuality is taught? Don't answer that. Rhetorical question ment to boggle your mind.

I'm not saying that preferences are taught. Preferences imply favoring one thing over another, that's not all I'm saying.  I'm saying that things can be taught that can influence them.

[Sago_mulch]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Sago_mulch wrote...

Quaay wrote...

I couldn't bring myself to romance any of the female LI's in ME2. Garrus and Thane would feel like coming on to my pet iguana and I'm not a zoophile. Jacob is just ugh. .

RACIST! YOU SHOULD LOVE EVERYBODY EVEN IF THEY DO HAVE SCALEY ASSES

Especially if they have scaley asses.

YES

[Sago_mulch]

Shavon wrote...

Ah, so apparently I'm a zoopihile? lol

Thane isn't fish. His illness is due to his species being unable to live on a humid world. Kinda the opposite of fish ;p

I would consider interspecies relationships in the ME Universe equivalent to inter-ethnic relationships in real life.

FIGHT RACISM

[TeachingFellow]

Speaking as a male player--and gay at that!--I broke my cardinal rule for RPGs: I played a female character. Part of it is because Mass Effect only allows you to play as "Shepard" rather than "yourself" (if you understand what I mean), but a greater factor is that the male Shepard is a much less skillful voice actor. I really warmed up to my Shepard over the course of the game.



But yes, I agree with you about the romances. Why are aliens dating each other again? I guess it's one thing when the aliens are of the Star-Trek variety--humans with extra bits--but it seems like most species would view such relationships as akin to bestiality (ignoring questions about physiology). This alone would have kept me away from inter-species romance, but throw in the fact that, female or not, I'd rather play a gay character, and my options wound up being VERY limited. I wound up romancing Kelly, which wasn't too bad, but it reeked of sexual harassment, objectification, and simple shallowness. I can call my secretary up to my quarters and have her give me a lapdance? Really, Bioware? In 2010?



Here's hoping for more--or better developed--options the next time through.

[Mallissin]

Collider wrote...
I'm saying that things can be taught that can influence them.

Influence preferences?

Modifié par Mallissin, 05 avril 2010 - 02:29 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Sago_mulch wrote...

Shavon wrote...

Ah, so apparently I'm a zoopihile? lol

Thane isn't fish. His illness is due to his species being unable to live on a humid world. Kinda the opposite of fish ;p

I would consider interspecies relationships in the ME Universe equivalent to inter-ethnic relationships in real life.

FIGHT RACISM

Indeed, may we add another to our cause.

[GuardianAngel470]

Collider wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Why not?

Because it's perfectly possible for the humans in Mass Effect to grow up being taught that inter-species relationships are of no lesser value or no particular bias for or against them being applied. At the very least, there are self-sufficient colonies like Horizon which could probably have their own philosophy in regards to interspecies relationships. Likewise it's very possible that humans growing up around aliens would not have a particular aversion to aliens.

That could be said if humanity had been in the galactic community for more than 30 years, but they haven't.  Humanity doesn't change that fast, I is reasonable to assume that there is still a stigma regarding inter-species romances. 

[Sago_mulch]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Collider wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
Why not?

Because it's perfectly possible for the humans in Mass Effect to grow up being taught that inter-species relationships are of no lesser value or no particular bias for or against them being applied. At the very least, there are self-sufficient colonies like Horizon which could probably have their own philosophy in regards to interspecies relationships. Likewise it's very possible that humans growing up around aliens would not have a particular aversion to aliens.

 I read in the news about parents locking their child up in the basement with the child malnourished and living in squaller.  .

[Mallissin]

JohnnyDollar wrote...
[Edit:  With that said though, this is ME.  So both of are arguments kinda go out the window.

Oh, crap. Zenn...Onyx... they're talking about Mass Effect, not real life. Gosh, I feel really awkward now...

*blushes*

[Onyx Jaguar]

Shavon wrote...

Sago_mulch wrote...

Shavon wrote...

Ah, so apparently I'm a zoopihile? lol

Thane isn't fish. His illness is due to his species being unable to live on a humid world. Kinda the opposite of fish ;p

I would consider interspecies relationships in the ME Universe equivalent to inter-ethnic relationships in real life.

FIGHT RACISM

Ok, for example, when filling out paperwork asking for your race/ethnicity, check off I prefer not to answer.
Or realize that there are not three, four, five etc races on earth, but one.  The human race.

I'm totally off-topic here.

Go on

[Onyx Jaguar]

Mallissin wrote...

JohnnyDollar wrote...
[Edit:  With that said though, this is ME.  So both of are arguments kinda go out the window.

Oh, crap. Zenn...Onyx... they're talking about Mass Effect, not real life. Gosh, I feel really awkward now...

*blushes*

Wait, but I thought Mass Effect was life?  Wait... no... NO

[Collider]

TeachingFellow wrote...
 I guess it's one thing when the aliens are of the Star-Trek variety--humans with extra bits--but it seems like most species would view such relationships as akin to bestiality (ignoring questions about physiology).

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Why? I don't think bestiality is repulsive (and it is for good reason) just because of the inability to produce offspring. There is, for example, nothing wrong with two people who are unable to have children due to a genetic disease or another, to be in a relationship. Bestiality is wrong because of other animals are not on the same mental capacity as humans are. Neither are children, and pedophile relationships are wrong too. Because they are predatory and taking advantage.

But with this aliens, you've only got the fact that you can't have offspring. Woopiedoo. There is the same mental capacity in all of these aliens that are romanceable, it's basically between two adult people.