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A company.... wants to make money? Gosh, who'dathought?


Irrelevant. There's a difference between a company that wants to make money and company that only wants to make money.


Let me finish this for you.  All companies NEED to make money. 


What makes you think I don't know that (after all, it is obvious), and what makes you think pointing that out is in any way relevant? The question OP posted isn't whether Bioware needs to make money, it's whether they only want to make money.

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BioWare is in a business, and business is all about making money. They're just doing their job, and you can't blame anyone for doing their job.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

You think bioware only cares about money? You obviously haven't heard about this cool company called Activision then.


This

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Are you compelled on penalty of death to buy the DLC if you buy the base game? Why do I even have to buy ME2, anyway? It should be a free patch. Damn it.

Modifié par vhatever, 05 avril 2010 - 11:07 .


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C'mon stop being jerks, it's a company of course they want to make money, what the hell are you guys expecting? Free games? lol



Until now Bioware are the ones giving more fan intended content, payable or not (like Zaeed and the Machine Head in ME2, and armors and other items for Dragon Age).

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

BioWare is in a business, and business is all about making money. They're just doing their job, and you can't blame anyone for doing their job.


That doesn't make sense, because in order for that to be true, Bioware should consist of only greedy people for whom the only interesting thing in the world, relating to the company, is money. Are you claiming that's the case? I find it much more likely that each company has to find a working equilibrium between 1) creating products that express things the people responsible want those products to express, and 2) making money out of those products so they can make more products that express things. Some companies place more importance on 1, some more on 2. Many companies ignore 1 and just concentrate on 2. I think Bioware, even in light of recent developments, is much more concerned with 1 than they could be.

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cruc1al wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

BioWare is in a business, and business is all about making money. They're just doing their job, and you can't blame anyone for doing their job.


That doesn't make sense, because in order for that to be true, Bioware should consist of only greedy people for whom the only interesting thing in the world, relating to the company, is money. Are you claiming that's the case? I find it much more likely that each company has to find a working equilibrium between 1) creating products that express things the people responsible want those products to express, and .


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Oh sorry. I was just busy making more sense than you.

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vhatever wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

BioWare is in a business, and business is all about making money. They're just doing their job, and you can't blame anyone for doing their job.


That doesn't make sense, because in order for that to be true, Bioware should consist of only greedy people for whom the only interesting thing in the world, relating to the company, is money. Are you claiming that's the case? I find it much more likely that each company has to find a working equilibrium between 1) creating products that express things the people responsible want those products to express, and .


Mmmmhhmmm memories... light the corners of my mind.Misty  water colored memories...

Oh sorry. I was just busy making more sense than you.


Exactly what part of my post did not make sense? If you don't want to elaborate, then you're just trolling

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Crucial, let me just put it this way for you: BioWare cares for us just as much as they care for themselves.



Whether you (or anyone else) agree or disagree is something that doesn't concern me in the slightest, because I know that's the truth in the end.

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Hi listen  i like dragon age i really do, but i am getting a little sick of having to pay for every little addon  bioware can think of,. I paid good money for the collectors edition and sure got the bonus stuff which cost me a little more ok fair enough. but i would have liked to get wardens keep, and the extra mission the  return to ostagar pack the feastday items , why do i have to pay for them? when games like oblivion have 100s of  mods and items for free as do heaps opf other good titles, what pissed me off even more paid good money for awakenigs, full price which was a lot for an expansion, and got nothing downloadable with it?.
Im beginning to think they can more about making every buck possible instead of rewarding loyal fans of a good game, that im sure they have already make a very good profit from.
Come on bioware it didnt use to be this way and im sure you could throw the fans something for free cause you havnt yet ( the extra stuff in the collestors pack was im sure included in the price  for those who think it was free)
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First of all, majority of ME2's DLC has been free. Second of all, DLC is a good way of fending off resellers like Gamestop. Though, it's not done right a lot of times.

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how was $40 a lot for expac? It's been a while since I've had to buy an expac for my computer but I'm pretty sure that when I bought brood wars or any of the C&C xpacs that they were $40.

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I think that's all that needs to be said.

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Cry me a river...




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I do not fault Bioware for wanting to make money from DLC, I think it's actually a smart business decision. And it serves the dual purpose of keeping the games fresh in the players' minds. As long as the DLC are interesting and entertaining, I will keep purchasing them. Of course I'll download all the free ones anyway.

I think DLC is a great way for Bioware to replenish their cash flow between big game releases, and if it helps keep them afloat in a shaky economy, I'm happy to give them a few dollars here and there in return for new content.

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so to summarize the OP's request - Because I have purchased stuff from you in the past, I want free stuff in the future.



In the tangible world people do not haggle or barter or make such requests in retail outlets or even directly to their favorite brands. People definitely complain in the retail world and demand satisfactory products, but after they get the products they do not say "give me more for free because I am loyal." This is unique to the internet and digital media, specifically video gaming.



This attitude of the modern gamer makes me sort of hate the gaming industry...or just people.

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on a scale of one to activision



id say, Bioware is 3 or 4

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Someone call the WHAAAAAAAMMMBULANCE!



Stop cry, seriously. And if it makes you feel better, the Dragon Age DLC sucks major donkey balls. Return to Ostagar was a major epic fail, and the others just bad, atleast for the price they are.

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llinsane1ll wrote...

Someone call the WHAAAAAAAMMMBULANCE!

Stop cry, seriously. And if it makes you feel better, the Dragon Age DLC sucks major donkey balls. Return to Ostagar was a major epic fail, and the others just bad, atleast for the price they are.


RTO and Warden's keep was epic fail, but who said you had to buy them to play them?

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I don't understand why people have a certain self-entitlement issue when it comes to DLC. DLC can be free, as a nice bonus to players, but where does the myth come from that it has to be free?

When you are buying a game, you are buying everything that's already in the box (or digital box). DLC obviously doesn't come with it. You should understand this concept before buying if you're having a problem with that.

Secondly, why is it that so many people expect all these DLC extras at no cost to them? People really expect the programmers and designers at BioWare to work for free? You may say you already paid, but again, you already got what you paid for. And if you think the pricing was bad, that perhaps you paid way too much for what you got in that Mass Effect 2 box of yours (or digital download package, as the case may be), then you need to take a second look at handing over your credit card to purchase it in the first place.

Lastly, you are *not* required to purchase these items. DLC so far, in my opinion, has not been game-breaking or game-changing in any way, they are not meant to be.

To expect BioWare to be paying its employees to provide content that will get no return from its customers is just silly. Simply ridiculous from a business and living standpoint. BioWare is a company. Yes, I would hope the bottom line for them is to make great games rather than make a lot of money, but in the end it's still a company and making money is going to be close to the top on its list of "Things BioWare Should Do".

As long as "Make Great Games" stays above "Make Money", I'll be okay, and thus far into this adventure, I see no reason to complain about BioWare's policies and practices.

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Well, to those who supports the DLC and this new fashion way to get easy money, I dont think you go out to take a breath of fresh air too often right? Anyway, I remember when this kind of content a few years ago was free for most of the games. Now for any map, weapon or quest, the companies stabs you with a 5 pounds bill on the new addons. I ´ve personally paid for a couple of dlcs and I dont think I will pay for more of them after the experience. The sad think about this is that some players support this way to get money, and still worst, they thing its pretty fine. The addiction to the game is so big that they wont mind at all to expend any amount on money on dlcs. Saddly this is happening on Call of Duty, Borderlands, Resident Evil, ME2, DAO, and the list is still growing...



If this still goes on, in a few years will be released "Bucks Effect".Of course this is NOT a game, this will be the future of the game industry. Say bye to the physical game format and to those nice games collection you´ve got at home. Games will be released in fascicles, and the rest of the game each month a new fascicle, which means that you will expend on a game around 100 bucks if you are lucky.

And please, dont come to me and tell that all the companies look to get the best profit. Every year, the game industry makes still more and more money, there is no need to make us the players to pay for this content, this is turning into a greedy way to make money. Its pretty ironic, the more money the companies get, the morewe they players got to pay: the companies instead of releasing more free content to keep the players happy to get future games, they rise up the prices and sell non free content

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cruc1al wrote...

vhatever wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

BioWare is in a business, and business is all about making money. They're just doing their job, and you can't blame anyone for doing their job.


That doesn't make sense, because in order for that to be true, Bioware should consist of only greedy people for whom the only interesting thing in the world, relating to the company, is money. Are you claiming that's the case? I find it much more likely that each company has to find a working equilibrium between 1) creating products that express things the people responsible want those products to express, and .


Mmmmhhmmm memories... light the corners of my mind.Misty  water colored memories...

Oh sorry. I was just busy making more sense than you.


Exactly what part of my post did not make sense? If you don't want to elaborate, then you're just trolling


Every part of it

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why they're all about making money?

because DLCs...

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llinsane1ll wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

vhatever wrote...

cruc1al wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

BioWare is in a business, and business is all about making money. They're just doing their job, and you can't blame anyone for doing their job.


That doesn't make sense, because in order for that to be true, Bioware should consist of only greedy people for whom the only interesting thing in the world, relating to the company, is money. Are you claiming that's the case? I find it much more likely that each company has to find a working equilibrium between 1) creating products that express things the people responsible want those products to express, and .


Mmmmhhmmm memories... light the corners of my mind.Misty  water colored memories...

Oh sorry. I was just busy making more sense than you.


Exactly what part of my post did not make sense? If you don't want to elaborate, then you're just trolling


Every part of it


Here we go, troll #2. I guess that I could've worded the post a bit better (however English isn't my first language), but if it was completely incomprehensible to you then I guess there's not much going on in your head or you're too lazy to spell it out.

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Bioware needs to make money they have staff to pay, they have to pay for their building, they need programs to create the games. All that cost a lot of money. It's a big business and they aren't entitled to give us anything for free if they choose not to. They don't owe us squat. You always have the choice to not buy. Think something costs to much? don't buy it.