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[RussianKid]

 Hey! just got ME2 and I started a new game and the game stopped responding after about 1 second into loading new game I'm just wondering which one of these is the problem:

Windows Vista Home Basic
Processor: ADM Athlon ™ 64 Processor 3500+ 2.20 GHz
Clock Speed: 2204 MHz
Physical memory: 2.99 MB
Memory (RAM) 3070 MB / 3 GB
Display Adapter: NVIDIA Quadro FX 1700     <-- Think its this one
VRAM: 512MB 
DirectX Version: DirectX 10.0 (Mar2009)

Please Reply cause I just got ME2 and I heard its a really fun game so I really wanna play it 

[Gorath Alpha]

Your CPU is below the minimum requirement, and your video card is intended for a production work station, not a gaming machine.  The Quiadro cards are for creating graphical images, not for displaying digitally animated scenes. The Quadros are based on the same Geforce processor chips, but with different memory, difference components, and most especially, a greatly different BIOS. 

PC MINIMUM System Requirements
OS = Windows XP SP3 / Windows Vista SP1 / Windows 7
Processor = 1.8GHz Intel Core 2 Duo or equivalent AMD CPU
Memory = 1 GB RAM for Windows XP / 2 GB RAM for Windows Vista and Windows 7
Hard Drive = 15 GB
DVD ROM = 1x Speed
Sound Card = DirectX 9.0c compatible
Direct X = DirectX 9.0c August 2008 (included)
Input = Keyboard / Mouse
Video Card = 256 MB (with Pixel Shader 3.0 support). Supported GPU Chips: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 or greater; ATI Radeon X1600 Pro or greater. Please note that NVIDIA GeForce 7200, 7300, 7400, 7500, 8100, 8200, 8300, 8400, 9200, and 9300; ATI Radeon HD 2400, 3100, 3200, HD 3450, HD 3470, HD 4200, and HD 4350 are below minimum system requirements. Updates to your video and sound card drivers may be required.

I am sure there is some benchmarking somewhere that will comparer the Quadro with a proper game card, but I don't know of any such, nor will I agree that the best-publicized "test" site is worth a visit, since that place is wrong far too often.  You could try the other one, at YouGamers, and see if it "knows" about your Quadro.  I don't, and I haven't seen but a couple of my fellow resident readers here with more video card information in their heads. 

Here's one that does, however: 

social.bioware.com/group/151/

[RussianKid]

So what exactly will I need to change?

[Gorath Alpha]

That will depend on your mainboard, and where that non-gamers' video card fits into the hierarchy of ordinary cards for playing games with, and while Flem1 might know the second part, I personally do not.  You are in a forum consisting of your fellow game players, and not any of us know the entire spectrum of all pertinent knowledge.  It's my small conceit that I know a good bit about the Geforces and the Radeons.  I have not tried to include the FireGLs and Quadros in my mental database.  Sorry. 

Whether you will be able to buy the processor you need for the mainboard you have is an open item until you ID that part, and I believe the best vector for that, if you don't have all of your original documentation, may be the Evergreen software, which you can obtain from Major Geeks. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 05 avril 2010 - 10:01 .

[RussianKid]

Will this laptop be able to sustain ME2?

CPU speed: 4 GHz

Memory: 4 GB

Hard drive: 250 GB

Screen size: 16"

CD / DVD: CD + DVD writer

Processor: AMD Athlon 64 II M300 Dual Core, 2.0GHzx2 Cores, 1MB L2 Cache, 64-bit capable

RAM: 4GB DDR2 (2 x 2GB) Memory

HDD: 250GB SATA HDD

Display: 15.6" WXGA (HD) Wide Screen CrystalBrite, (1366 x 768)

Optical: DVD Super Multi (Dual Layer)

Video Graphics ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Graphics (256MB dedicated System Memory) with up to 1919MB SVR with HDMI output

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits

[Gorath Alpha]

An HD 4200 is merely a video chip. It's a good one, but it's not a video CARD. The official requirements name it specifically as unsupported.

[RussianKid]

DELL XPS M1730 (ALIENWARE) GAMING LAPTOP

apparently it's able to play any game game on the market

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium

4 GB DDR2 RAM

500 GB 5400 rpm SATA HDDS

DUAL SLI NVIDIA 8700M GT 256MB VIDEO

17" HIGH-RES GLOSS LCD PANEL 1920x1200 RES

INTEL CORE 2 DUO T7500 DUAL CORE 2.2GHZ CPU

Dual 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8700M GT with NVIDIA® SLI™ Technology

[somejah]

That system should be able to run Mass Effect 2, (not talking about alienware one btw) my old PC was worse than that except for the graphics card which was 512mb nvidia geforce something, it will lag at some parts, but it still ran exceptionally well for me on my old pc, just make sure you get the 1st patch first atleast though, otherwise the game will crash on loading screens because of the single core. Just upgrade your gfx card to any nvidia 512mb one or ATI if you want. The game will run just fine. Your motherboard should be capable of running a normal gfx card for gaming, my old pc I expect is older than yours and can run one.

Just saving you more money than buying a whole new pc.

Modifié par somejah, 05 avril 2010 - 10:19 .

[Gorath Alpha]

This thread zipped along faster than I realized.  The response regarding the laptop with only an HD 4200 is still the one I had in mind when I answered this much: "I've not yet heard of any laptop that was sold without any video card at all being able to upgrade to a real card.  There is no empty place inside it to put a card, if you could even get it apart far enough to look inside." 

I have no information on the Alienware PCs, and until just now, never had heard of any inside-Dell crossover between their XPS line and their Alienware line.  The video card in the one with that odd mixed model number should be just fine, however.  Nevertheless, for game playing, desktop system remain greatly superior. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 05 avril 2010 - 10:59 .

[somejah]

Alienware laptops are usually alot larger so they can fit proper cards inside, they are professionally made gaming platforms, if you were to get a alienware pc, I recommend you to buy the desktop pcs, they are so much better, and laptops are always incredibly prone to over heating.

[OneBadAssMother]

I can still run ME2 on my old machine which is 2.0ghz single core AMD, 1.5 gm ram, 256 mb V-Card and yet framerates are FLYING -> Unreal Engine 3.5 has been heavily optimised it seems.



But, my system is a desktop, and I actually had to shove my fan to my desktop to keep it cool due to overheating problems. For laptops... well I can't really say

[RussianKid]

so the alienware laptop will run it though? cause i need a laptop for animations and games and i was thinking of getting an alienware laptop since i found one for $1,799 from a reliable Electronics seller that I've seen before at getting parts

[RussianKid]

or will the laptop before alienware be able to sustain ME2?

[somejah]

So your sure you need a laptop, then I recommend a alienware over any other laptop. I still say that the desktops are much better however.

[somejah]

The laptop will be able to run ME2, but only if you upgrade your graphics card to something better, any 512mb ATI or Nvidia card will do very nicely. Same for the pc you put in your first post.

Sorry for double post.

Modifié par somejah, 05 avril 2010 - 10:49 .

[Gorath Alpha]

You may ignore anyone who has the mistaken idea that the amount of VRAM has any affect on overall performance.  It would be the most unusual laptop that could fold into itself a large enough screen to exceed the pixel count of the old 4:3 1600 by 1200, which is where high resolution starts, and where more than 256 MBs become required. 

Only after choosing a desktop PC and adding a large sized high resolution display is the need for 512 MBs and up from there any kind of requirement:

Big Ram Scam:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/106/index/1186486

If anything, Radeon image quality has been superior to that of the Geforce cards for several years, since the X1n00 generation, and better performance since the HD 4n00s.  Finally, after a year and a half, in another week, the Fermi cards from nVIDIA are due, and will catch up for a little while. 

Pay attention to the references available for folks such as yourself, whose understanding of video is so limited:

Very basic discussion of video cards, video chips, and even of laptops' limits 
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/519461



Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 avril 2010 - 02:46 .

[somejah]

I used to have a 256mb graphics card and the game couldnt run very well, I bought a 512mb and it ran very well. My screen resolution was around 1156 - 745 or something like that. Nvidia is very good for graphics anyway.

[RussianKid]

so for the alienware laptop the OS will be fine?

Windows Vista Home Premium

[RussianKid]

So if i need a graphics card for my current desktop if i get a Nvidia GeForce if its a lower number than 6800 its greater and if its higher number like 9200 its lesser right?

[Gorath Alpha]

Up through their Geforce 9n00 cards, the only digit in the name with any serious meaning was the second one, so that a 6200, 7200, 8200, and 9200 are all basically crap (same for the laptop HD 4200, or course), while the 6800, 7800, 8800, and 9800 were the ones that nVIDIA put the most power into.  A year and a half ago, they waved Bye-Bye to that naming system, and haven't made up their collective minds just yet what any numbers mean any more. 

We can agree that the GT240 is a good, solid, Medium power Mainline Game card, and the 220 / 230 are nowhere near as good, being far closer to the bottom of medium.  The GTS250 is on the borderline going up to High End, and the GTX260 is just above the 250.  The GTX 275, 280, 285, and 295 were various high-ranked cards a year and a half ago, but ATI responded to those and had equivalent HD 4n00 cards to match them.  A week from now, the largest graphics chip ever designed will be available for sale (nVIDIA Fermi), and for a time will be ahead of the Radeons, other than the HD 5970, until ATI answers that with their own tweaked-faster hardware.  

Previously, we could rate a "500" card as being below the Medium, Mainline performance level, but near the top of the Low End Business quality graphics, and most "600" cards were within the Mainline Level, fully capable of gaming.  The "700" card would be near the border of Mainline (like the Geforce 250 is).  ATI still uses the older system with a slight alteration of dropping the numerous suffix letters that previously were used.   

What counts, and is represented by the naming convention, is Core Speed, Memory Speed, Memory Bandwidth, and Shader Unit numbers.  The physical amount of RAM is practically inconsequential compared to those four criteria. 

All of the above coverage of Mainline and High End Game cards is really academic unless / until the system you want to upgrade is ready to accept the upgrade.  A single core CPU is already going to be struggling, and the power supply will need an upgrade as well.  AMD has made a a couple of socket upgrades since the A64 3500 came out, and you probably need a new mainboard to take advantage of the Phenom processors. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 06 avril 2010 - 06:30 .

[darkshadow136]

Your cpu, and graphics card are way to low in order to play ME2 properly. Plus 4 gigs of memory is preferable for proper performance. In order to upgrade from what you have you will most likely have to buy a whole new system, since the motherboard will most likely bog down your performance or crash your system all together with a much higher powered graphics card and cpu.

I also suggest you either go with windows 7 32bit or 64bit OS. In the end unless you know how to build your own systems I would buy a prefab middle of the road system from cyberpower, dell, and such. Stay away from packard hell, acer, compaq since they are not very good, and they pack their systems with a lot of unneccisary programs that bog down your system. 

[RussianKid]

so i need to get a new processor and graphics card?

[Spiwerk]

Heres a baseline for you.



I have an older pc which I play on because it is situated in a place where i can smoke

Basically it is a AMD3500 - 2gig mem - Nvidia 7800gt (which is 256).

Can i play the ME2 = yes



BUT i had to turn down almost everything and play a 1024x786 rez just to get a playable framerate.



So for you its probably playable if you get a better vid card = yes



Will the experience be good enough = That is up to your standards



Hope that helps you make the correct choice.

[darkshadow136]

RussianKid wrote...

so i need to get a new processor and graphics card?

You would probably be able to play ME2 if you just replaced the graphics card and cpu with slighter better ones. But if you want to play the game in all it's glory in high settings maxed out, you will need a whole new computer most likely.

[RussianKid]

alright thanks my dad thinks that we just may need abit more speed rather than a larger cpu but thanks you guys hope I get ME2 goin'