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[MerinTB]

SarEnyaDor wrote...

See. I was a wee child playing video games and I grew-up just fine to be a productive(ish) member of society.

Yeah, sweet memories of childhood past. My whole family participated in games, took turns playing Utopia, did Skiing (listening to the thumps as we fell all over the place) and boxing, played Ultimate Wizard and Jumpman once we got the C64. I miss that aspect of gaming - my brother and parents and I passing the joystick or controller back and forth, sitting huddled together on the floor around the TV. *sigh*

Most of the multiplayer games I can play with my family now are only 2 or 4 player games, and I bred too well and have a large and odd number of people. Where are the 6 and 8 player games of the not-so-distant past??

Ditto.

My friends and family, we'd also huddle around the C-64 for gaming.  We'd often turn single player games into multiplayer - each person got to "control" the actions of one of the party members in Knights of Legend or Pool of Radiance, for example.  Or we'd play Archon or M.U.L.E.

Those were the days.

Heck, up until the late 90's we were still doing that.  In college my friend and my SO's bro would take turns at the keyboard while we played through Phantasmagoria or Bioforge.

o/` memories o/`

I was never a Nintendo / console guy.  My parents got me an NES for X-Mas one year and were very upset that I was like "oh."
It came with Zelda.  I never got another game for it.  What little NES gaming I did was at friends houses when THEY wanted to play.  But most of my friends were part of the C-64 click, I had like 2 friends who had NES's instead.
I did have an Atari 2600, though I never finished either Raiders of the Lost Ark nor E.T. - I did love me some Combat and Yar's Revenge, though!

The first "real" console gaming I did was via the XBOX, and that was only because of the Buffy game and the Robotech game.  I only got a 360 because Mass Effect was "never" going to be a PC game.

I know OF Mario, Sonic, Samus, etc... especially having worked at 3 rental stores and 2 video game stores in my life... but they're not part of my gaming experience.

[MerinTB]

Luc0s wrote...
By the way, I have another (propably stupid) HoH suggestion: An graphic-novel (comic book) super heroes HoH game with all the stars from Marvel and DC.

But I guess not many if you are devoted graphic-novel readers, or am I mistaken now?

As a huge comic book geek, I'd be ALL FOR IT.  But, again, I think it's mostly outside the interests of most forum members.  You'll find some comic book fans, and some people who won't even see movies based on super-hero comics.

I'd play that, definitely, but I don't think it'd get many votes here.

[SarEnyaDor]

I remember Phantsmagoria - I actually still have it, that and 7th Guest and 11th Hour, though they can't play on my current computer (damn Windows XP and too fast processors LOL never thought I'd be complaining about my PC being too good for something) but I still have them all because I can't just toss them out.



I'm not really into comic books as I spent my hard earned teenage money on Magic and ST CCG cards and White Wolf supplements instead. Have to pick and choose your poisons when you are on a budget.

[SarEnyaDor]

I'm thinking you must make more than than the 5.75 an hour I used to make working at Six Flaggs and probably don't have to pay for rent, car insurance, and food - but that's just a guess.

My parents may have enjoyed games, but they were rather stern in the life learning areas. When I started working and wanted freedoms I had to pay for them. You want to be an 'adult" and work and choose your own curfew? Well then you should pay rent, and if you aren't here when meals are served then you have to make your own accomodations. You want to have free access to that car we generously provided? Then you have to be responsible for the insurance on it...

I REALLY hated my parents for a few years back then (like 15-18) but I really understood that I had to have $300 left for my "bills" and that that booster pack of cards was going to take two hours of working, and that splatt was going to take four hours - made me spend less and appreciate what I had more - I scrubbed nasty cheese and chili pots and cleaned out dumpsters for my junk, I earned my junk, and I still have 99% of it, too. The cards are in binders and card boxes and the splatts are on book shelves in alphabetical order by game.

I don't regret most of it, though if I could go back in time I would have told younger me to ditch Magic the Gathering (and my boyfriend LOL) completely and stick with the books and suplements, as I still use them to this day and the cards are just gathering dust waiting for me to get off my arse and finish categorizing them for sale.

Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 05 mai 2010 - 01:47 .

[Pacifien]

Every time I did the Starbucks run for myself and my coworkers, I calculated how many hours I had to work that day to pay for the coffee. I thought that would shame me into bringing my own coffee or stop buying super extra large zwanzig double espresso cafe latte with hazelnut syrup, nonfat milk... with soy whip cream (there's a joke somewhere in there), but it never did.

The worst habit of them all to break was the weekly comic book run. We're talking car payment totals and that was a light collection next to some of the other regulars at the store. All I have to show for it is bitterness toward the wall of longboxes that have haunted my moves from place to place a dozen times over. Well, and a healthy dose of comic book lore. And a certain disrespect for Frank Miller. Some other things. Anyway, I'm now not allowed to enter comic book stores. And I brew my own coffee.

[MerinTB]

When I was a survey taker back in Chicago it wasn't hours - it was number of surveys. It'd be like "I need to do 2 extra surveys for lunch, and 4 extra surveys if I want to buy that movie."

It was interesting - you worked a little harder for the extras.

That kind of thinking is pointless at jobs where you are paid salary, or hourly and have no control over how much you work.



Going way back to childhood, it was almost the opposite for me. My parents didn't give me an allowance until I had a job and was earning money - then they decided I was responsible enough. They did get my car and provide the insurance, but it was always a junker car. Anything outside of food at home and shelter, however, I had to buy so... yeah, that TurboGrafx 16, that was a paycheck (biggest waste of money ever - learned right about then that computers > consoles for me), any Magic cards, comics, computer games, or RPG books were out of my pocket too.

Course, I really didn't start buying comics until college - and that's exactly when I stopped buying Magic cards and RPG books.

[Kalithera]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

For the record, I'm going to try and see if I can start the Hurt or Heal tomorrow on Friday.

Cool! 
Any idea what time?It'd be nice if it could be up before 7:00 tomorrow, but if time is an issue...
On another note: Is it just KotOR I or is it I and II? 

[Kalithera]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Kalithera wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

For the record, I'm going to try and see if I can start the Hurt or Heal tomorrow on Friday.

Cool! 
Any idea what time?It'd be nice if it could be up before 7:00 tomorrow, but if time is an issue...
On another note: Is it just KotOR I or is it I and II? 

It's 1 and 2. That's what I planed out. When I saw the poll, I've noticed I wasn't entirely specific in regards to putting Baldur's Gate on the poll and not saying whether it was Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 thus some of the confusion. I was wrong to not specify. Likewise I should have said that when I meant KOTOR I meant both KOTOR 1 & 2. The reasons being because just doing KOTOR 1 is short. And KOTOR 2 is shorter compared to the last HoH. I've tried to cram every good character in the HoH for the KOTOR series.

This is KOTOR 1:

Jolee Bindo 
Brianna the Handmaiden 
HK-47 
Kreia 
Carth Onasi 
Canderous Ordo 
Atton Rand 
T3-M4 
Juhan 
Mission Vao 
Bastila Shan 
Zaalbar 
Bao-Dur 
G0-T0 
Visas Marr 
Hanharr 
Mira 
Mical the Disciple 

This is KOTOR 2:

Atton
Kreia
T3-M4
Handmaiden
Bao-Dur
HK-47
Disciple
G0-T0
Hanharr
Mira
Darth Nihilus

And while I'm still trying to find more characters from KOTOR 2, it seems just doing one at time won't be enough. I think this was my fault for not specifying  that when I meant KOTOR I meant the KOTOR series. If people really want me to, I can always host a poll determining whether we should just do it one by one or all at the same time. Though that would just delay the Hurt or Heal. I am ready to accept the consequences. Doubtless, a lot of people will still participate though I can see some people being either confused or disappointed. Either way, I'm sorry that I didn't think things through and if I'm not so good at handling HoHs, I might hand the responsibility to people like MerinTB(HoHs don't just have to be by me, it's been done before either way).

I think it should be I and II.
That way, everyone's happy--the people who want to do both can, and the people who want to move on to another won't have to wait as long.
Plus, I'm totally biased since the one I want to win is in KotOR 2.
You seem to be doing this quite well. Me? I'd leave out a major character and then be tarred and feathered.

[Frieza1987]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

Kalithera wrote...

Capt. Obvious wrote...

For the record, I'm going to try and see if I can start the Hurt or Heal tomorrow on Friday.

Cool! 
Any idea what time?It'd be nice if it could be up before 7:00 tomorrow, but if time is an issue...
On another note: Is it just KotOR I or is it I and II? 

It's 1 and 2. That's what I planed out. When I saw the poll, I've noticed I wasn't entirely specific in regards to putting Baldur's Gate on the poll and not saying whether it was Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 thus some of the confusion. I was wrong to not specify. Likewise I should have said that when I meant KOTOR I meant both KOTOR 1 & 2. The reasons being because just doing KOTOR 1 is short. And KOTOR 2 is shorter compared to the last HoH. I've tried to cram every good character in the HoH for the KOTOR series.

This is KOTOR 1:

Jolee Bindo 
Brianna the Handmaiden 
HK-47 
Kreia 
Carth Onasi 
Canderous Ordo 
Atton Rand 
T3-M4 
Juhan 
Mission Vao 
Bastila Shan 
Zaalbar 
Bao-Dur 
G0-T0 
Visas Marr 
Hanharr 
Mira 
Mical the Disciple 

This is KOTOR 2:

Atton
Kreia
T3-M4
Handmaiden
Bao-Dur
HK-47
Disciple
G0-T0
Hanharr
MiraDarth Nihilus

And while I'm still trying to find more characters from KOTOR 2, it seems just doing one at time won't be enough. I think this was my fault for not specifying  that when I meant KOTOR I meant the KOTOR series. If people really want me to, I can always host a poll determining whether we should just do it one by one or all at the same time. Though that would just delay the Hurt or Heal. I am ready to accept the consequences. Doubtless, a lot of people will still participate though I can see some people being either confused or disappointed. Either way, I'm sorry that I didn't think things through and if I'm not so good at handling HoHs, I might hand the responsibility to people like MerinTB(HoHs don't just have to be by me, it's been done before either way).

Doing both at the same time sounds fine. Is that your final list though? I could think of a few more, like Yuthura Ban and Calo Nord.

[Frieza1987]

Capt. Obvious wrote...
Completely forgot about this. Thanks for the help. Admittedly, I've never played KOTOR 1 or 2. Sorry about that . Thanks for pointing that out. Any more characters I should add on there?

Well, if I made the list it would be:

KotOR 1:
Jolee Bindo
Bastila Shan
Darth Malak
Saul Karath
Carth Onasi
Canderous Ordo
Mission Vao
Zaalbar
Juhani
HK-47
T3-M4
Trask Ulgo
Griff Vao
Calo Nord
Yuthura Ban
Master Vrook
Mekel

KotOR 2:
Kreia
Bao-Dur
Atton Rand
Handmaiden
Visas Marr
Mira
Hanharr
G0-T0
Disciple
Darth Sion
Darth Nihilus
Atris

Modifié par Frieza1987, 07 mai 2010 - 02:06 .

[MerinTB]

Here was my response to Capt. Obvious's message to me - at least my character list -
oh, and I suggested sticking with just KotOR 1.

1. Bastilla Shan
2. Carth Onasi
3. Mission Vao
4. Zaalbar "Big Z"
5. T3-M4
6. Canderous Ordo
7. Juhani
8. Jolee Bindo
9. HK-47
10. Darth Malak
11. Darth Revan
12. Saul Karath
13. Zax -tr *
14. Bendak Starkiller -tr
15. Brejak -tr
16. Calo Nord -tr
17. Davik Kang -tr
18. Yuthura Ban -kb
19. Uthar Wynn -kb
20. Darth Bandon -m *
21. Chuundar-kk
22. Hukta Jax -m *
23. The One -l *
24. Vrook Lamar -d
25. Vandar Tokare -d
26. Gadon Thek -tr
27. Zaerdra -tr *
28. Sunry -m
29. Freyyr-kk *
30. Griff Vao -tt
31. Helena Shan -tt *
32. Dustil Onasi -kb
33. Forn Dodonna -l *
34. Suvam Tan -y
35. Gorton Colu -tr *
36. Gerlon Two-Fingers -tr *
37. Janice Nall -tr
38. Sarna -tr
39. C8-42-GE3 -d
40. Iziz -tt

the codes after the names tell you what planet they are found on (tr = Taris, kb = Korriban, m = Manaan, kk = Kashyyk, l = Lehon, y = Yavin, d = Dantooine, tt = Tatooine), and the *'s are by the characters I would drop first if you cut it to 30. The characters are grouped in the list with party members first, villains second, secondary characters third, and funny characters last (think Sandal or Conrad Verner)

If you need back-up to tell people who the characters are, go here - http://starwars.wiki...he_Old_Republic

I would stick to 1.  KotOR 2 isn't Bioware, not everyone who played 1 played 2, and while there are people who preferred 2 my personal anecdotal experience is that many who loved one didn't play or didn't finish 2.

[Pacifien]

As much as I would love to have the KOTOR 2 characters in the game, when I started writing a list of characters from KOTOR 1, it just got ridiculously long. I guess it would depend on just how minor of a character you'd want to list for the game. Queedle, Komad Fortuna, Yuka Laka, and Mekel are four I'd have put on a list.

[Frieza1987]

@MerinTB
I don't know if it would be a good idea to include all of those minor characters in the list. You have to remember, KotOR did come out several years ago, and most people will only remember the most memorable characters. I've played the game over 20 times total, and even I had to look up who Janice Nall is.

I realize it's been about a year since the last time I played it, and it's about time for me to go back and play it again (if I really consider myself a die-hard fan), but most people haven't played the game recently, and the majority of the people on that list probably won't even be remembered.

I included Mekel and Griff Vao on my list cause even though they're minor characters, they were probably the most memorable minor characters. You could include a few others like Uthar Wynn and Chuundar maybe, but other than those couple characters I don't think it would be worth it to include them.

Modifié par Frieza1987, 07 mai 2010 - 10:00 .

[MerinTB]

Well, you have a couple choices -

a very small HoH game with like 10-12 characters for KotOR 1, or maybe 20 for both games, where it's only major characters, the game is short, and you have lots of politicking and whining by players over their favorite not winning early on -



or



you include minor characters for a longer game and make it easy for there to be like 15 or more killed before the whining really starts.



Me, I like more characters. I like some of the "obscure" ones, like the poor droid being "used" by the widow, "Janice Nall is your gal", the anti-alien rabble-rousing kook, and the Sith officer who you trick to inviting you to her officer's party so you can steal uniforms. Honestly, its the background characters who make these games for me - the party is great, but if that's all you had, it'd get old fast.



But, again, Capt. Obvious is running - he asked me for help, I offered my suggestions. I think I had two successful and fun HoH's that didn't end in bickering and people complaining it would never end and poor Capt. Obvious trying to adjust the game mid-stream to address problems and getting criticized for that too...

[Frieza1987]

I'm not trying to be mean, and I agree that there should be some characters that nobody likes and will get killed off early, I was just offering my suggestions. I still think we could still have a good game with both KotOR 1+2 characters.

Modifié par Frieza1987, 08 mai 2010 - 01:16 .

[Frieza1987]

Is the poll up?

[Pacifien]

I totally forgot my intention to come back to this thread right before noon CST yesterday to take four points away from Garrus....

[Frieza1987]

Hey guys, since it's been a few days since we decided to create a poll to see what most people prefer, and it hasn't been created yet, I thought I'd make one myself. Sorry if I seem too impatient, I'm just trying to speed the process up.

Here's the poll.

[smore006]

Voted, but i'm losing interest rapidly. Over-organizing the whole thing, are we?