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#151
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Yeah, I'd be interested too. I didn't see any dev appart from Priestly, Gaider and Waechter write in these forums for a while. And as far as I recall, none of them mentionned a 1.04 patch... which is strange by Bioware standards.

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The communication on bugs after about the the first three weeks after release of DA:O has been horrific, and, frankly, not up to their pre-EA standards. I'm not normally one to blame everything on EA, but I'm beginning to think they've damaged parts of the Bioware culture which used to be good.

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AOPotter wrote...

Do you have a source for that? Because I see no announcement of a patch.


I've read it in some other post of those forums. It was an announcement from a Bioware dev, I think, and it included a "please be patient" note. If I remember well, of course.

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Gladiador2 wrote...

AOPotter wrote...

Do you have a source for that? Because I see no announcement of a patch.


I've read it in some other post of those forums. It was an announcement from a Bioware dev, I think, and it included a "please be patient" note. If I remember well, of course.

LOL  

  Comments from devs saying "be patient!" and "we're looking into it" and other meaningless  deflection statements   are not "Announcements".   They're attempts to get us "whiners" to shut the hell up.  They do not mean that something is on the way.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 14 avril 2010 - 11:09 .


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I too refuse to play through DA:A until the game-breaking bugs are fixed. Almost a month and not even A WORD about a patch.



They just don't give a sh*t, that's what it boils down to. Well, it doesn't matter anyway, there are always repercussions : you don't give a sh*t about us and don't support the games we buy, we stop buying your games.

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Taritu wrote...

The communication on bugs after about the the first three weeks after release of DA:O has been horrific, and, frankly, not up to their pre-EA standards. I'm not normally one to blame everything on EA, but I'm beginning to think they've damaged parts of the Bioware culture which used to be good.


It's unfortunate, really. During the RtO debacle Viktor promised a better and faster communication channel between us and the developers, but looks like the promises have been proven false, again.  <_<

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Abriael_CG wrote...

Taritu wrote...

The communication on bugs after about the the first three weeks after release of DA:O has been horrific, and, frankly, not up to their pre-EA standards. I'm not normally one to blame everything on EA, but I'm beginning to think they've damaged parts of the Bioware culture which used to be good.


It's unfortunate, really. During the RtO debacle Viktor promised a better and faster communication channel between us and the developers, but looks like the promises have been proven false, again.  <_<


He can't provide us with information when he doesn't get anything. I'm sure he's as annoyed as we are, since he seems like the kind of guy that would tell us what he knows.

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Seriously, all these issues- and STILL nothing!
Come on, if they were slight issues maybe- but this is ridiculous. I WANT to play the expansion, but I'm not going to play through it again until it's patched.
Origins still hasn't been patched, it's loaded with glitches, but Awakening is so full of them it's like a slap to the face for even purchasing it.

i'm sure they are, but patches take time. i honestly think they're tryign to roll out all patches at the same time so no one can seem like they're preferred over another system. it'll come.

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if it makes anyone feel better (probably not), one of the devs came onto one of the threads in the da xbox support forums on here and said they are working on a patch. it just takes time. they are working on it. it's just not done yet. i got the idea that they are doing a patch for each system simultaneously.

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Your joking...right? I'm playing on the 360 version, and I've encountered so many bugs, glitches, issues on one playthrough then I thought possible.



Nope, finished it with no issues. Wife has finished as well, same game, no issues at all.

Now if there's some sort of goofy die rolling behind the scences bugs I wouldn't have noticed them in the cascade of destruction that DAA was for me. If OTOH you are talking about game breaking, things like crashes, bugged quests or anything like that I am telling you 100% I saw none of them.


Same here.

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ladydesire wrote...
He can't provide us with information when he doesn't get anything. I'm sure he's as annoyed as we are, since he seems like the kind of guy that would tell us what he knows.


The problem isn't Viktor. The problem is that better communication has been promised, and it didn't happen. Now we're left in the dark with a flawed product.

No matter who is the one with the "responsibility" sign hung to his neck, someone at Bioware made promises again, and such promises weren't fulfilled. The responsibility doesn't lay on Viktor alone, but on Bioware as a whole.

PS: To the ones that finished the game with no issues, good for you, really. This doesn't mean the product isn't bugged and flawed. It's obvious that lots of people are suffering from several issues, and that's quite enough to make for something that shouldn't have passed QA.

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PS: To the ones that finished the game with no issues, good for you, really.


There are some things that are there for everybody and could affect everybody (i.e. unlike crashes or some other things are not platform/configuration/inventory/DlC/etc. dependent) -- they're just not noticing them or not caring about them, because they probably aren't paying attention to the things they affect. 



 

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People who are flipping out over this need to chill. I can think of very few major bits of software that don't come out with some problems. Should they have been a little bit more responsible with quality control? Yes. Should they fix it ASAP? Yes. Are they working on it? Almost certainly. I'd rather them patch as many issues in one patch, and make sure it works properly than hurry out a half-measure because some people were going into labor over a couple bugs.

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JACKtheR1PP3R189 wrote...

People who are flipping out over this need to chill. I can think of very few major bits of software that don't come out with some problems. Should they have been a little bit more responsible with quality control? Yes. Should they fix it ASAP? Yes. Are they working on it? Almost certainly. I'd rather them patch as many issues in one patch, and make sure it works properly than hurry out a half-measure because some people were going into labor over a couple bugs.


LOL a couple of bugs.


  And I love comments like these.    "Please stop compaining!"

Yes folks.    You heard the man.  Lets all just "chill out" and be happy with what we have.     After all, Isn't Bioware pumping out Those April fools DLCs and "community events" for us?  what more do we want!?

Oh,  and  I also  love  how we are to just assume that  the reason Bioware is taking so long  with the fixes is because they're working on some big massive comprehensive patch.   As if there's a shred of evidence that they're doing any such thing.     There isn't, of course, but lets pretend anyway.  Makes us feel "cool" as we try to shut up the whiners.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 15 avril 2010 - 10:43 .


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JACKtheR1PP3R189 wrote...

People who are flipping out over this need to chill. I can think of very few major bits of software that don't come out with some problems. Should they have been a little bit more responsible with quality control? Yes. Should they fix it ASAP? Yes. Are they working on it? Almost certainly. I'd rather them patch as many issues in one patch, and make sure it works properly than hurry out a half-measure because some people were going into labor over a couple bugs.


The amount of rnd that went into awakenings most likely did not warrant a 40$ price tag. The fact that it was released with so many bugs makes it even worse.

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I can't talk details at the moment, but there is another update in the works. We've all been working to compile issues and QA and the dev team have been in bug triage continuously to decide on the contents of the patch and what fixes it will contain.



I've been watching the tech forums more and more to at least get information on issues, even if I don't have a ready fix for them. I'd encourage you to post to the appropriate ones to talk in detail about any issues that are really annoying you. There are posts at the top of each that detail how to report bugs so we can get the best understanding of what's going on and enter them into the bug database. In most cases, we are aware of the issues you'd meet, but a full description, rather than "this thing is broken", is always helpful to making the fixes we can.



Quoted from like 4 or 5 topics below this.

I don't see how crying is going to make them work faster. Rather need it be patched once then multiple times, yes? None are crazy game breaking. So wait. Post the issues in tech support and drop it, or stay in tech and cry.



Better to do it there anyway.

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I don't see how crying is going to make them work faster. Rather need it be patched once then multiple times, yes? None are crazy game breaking. So wait. Post the issues in tech support and drop it, or stay in tech and cry.

Better to do it there anyway.


Crying might not make them work faster but honestly: it can not make them work any slower either. The rate at which they fix bugs is simply atrocious. Origins was released in November 2009 and still has some of the bugs it had when shipping. At that rate they probably do not even need to bother fixing Awakenings because the people who do not care about the bugs have finished this "expansion" probably 31 times by now (and start looking for a new game) and those who are turned off by the bugs have uninstalled it already and gone back to Origins 1.02.

And I never got the "better one big patch than multiple small fixes"-thing. We just had one big patch and it messed up more than it fixed. Which is the problem with big patches: you cram so much stuff in there that you never know what exactly went wrong if something gets broken.
With a small patch you almost immediately know what went wrong because there is not a lot of changes. On top of that: small patches give players the feeling that the problems are actually worked on (which is good for morale) and ...well... fix things quickly. 
Example: Stealing does not work via tactics anymore (unless you have an toon that had this in its tactics from 1.02). Fixing that promptly removes a lot of annoyance from players. Same with stuff like approval-bugs, gift bugs etc. That is small crap that probably does only need a handful of lines of code (as i recall the (other) stealing bug that was fixed by modders consisted of 2 lines) but it would make the gameplay much better immediately.

But quite frankly Bioware reminds me more and more of Mr. Potatamoto.

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OK i am done... I am at the point in awakenings that I have completed most of the main quests leading up to the last big thing.  I ran into a few bugs but managed to circumvent them without modding the game. I have the sentinel armor and the sword that what's his name makes.  However, I tried craft all the runes I wanted in them to paragon level.  I now have all but one but can't seem to make the last one.  Apparently that vendor that was supposed to show up at the keep and didn't (i think it was from the mines- and I did make an agreement with him) sells that one or enables someone else to sell it.  Also, I ran into the popular armor to weapon rune bug. 

So I am done. Not playing again until the next patch is out. Not sure if I want to blame this on EA, but I expect patchs, and usually Bioware delivers. This expansion seems rushed.  At least, as buggy as windows is, it comes out with patches on regular basis. Heck I play a few free games that patch more often.

It's bad enough that there are games that EA has made recently that I won't be able to play underway (Navy) because they require a net connection.  I knew that when I bought them but it is annoying as hell.  How many people that don't like consoles and are in the military are being alienated because of this dumb requirement to be logged in.

Oh, and where's the content!  Will gladly pay for it if it worth it, but we need to have it! How come origins gets feast day crap and the new expansion doesn't?

Bleh.. more disgusted than I can say right now.

Good night.

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Crying might not make them work faster but honestly: it can not make them work any slower either.

So why bother posting at all >_>. Go to tech drop the issue and fill tech up with spam on how they're not fixing the issues.

The rate at which they fix bugs is simply atrocious. Origins was released in November 2009 and still has some of the bugs it had when shipping. At that rate they probably do not even need to bother fixing Awakenings because the people who do not care about the bugs have finished this "expansion" probably 31 times by now (and start looking for a new game) and those who are turned off by the bugs have uninstalled it already and gone back to Origins 1.02.


Your talking to one who has uninstalled and gone on. I know, "why am I still here then" The Answer: It a good way to pass the time. I'm a "forum lurker" if you will (till I get a job anyway). Oh and I got rid of Origins also.

And I never got the "better one big patch than multiple small fixes"-thing. We just had one big patch and it messed up more than it fixed.Which is the problem with big patches: you cram so much stuff in there that you never know what exactly went wrong if something gets broken.


That is fail on Bioware. Big patches have been done before. But
this also notes why they take their time to 'FIX' the issues before
releasing. It only makes more mad people. "We waited all this time and
you guys still fail" Then those that didn't see any noticeable big are like ''Wdf did you do Bioware!''

With a small patch you almost immediately know what went wrong because there is not a lot of changes. On top of that: small patches give players the feeling that the problems are actually worked on (which is good for morale) and ...well... fix things quickly.


Sounds like what your money at big lump sums or small over time payments. Highly debatable.  I see it like this. They make 15 patches to fix all the issues in a game takes 2 or 3 months to do it all and send them though. Or they do 3 or 5 decent sized patches and fix all the 'tech issues' in the same 2 or 3 months. Not any faster. Mean while you got fans saying why did they fix that first that doesn't even matter. ''When other fans saying shut up its the biggest issue to me!'' Can't please everyone.

Example: Stealing does not work via tactics anymore (unless you have an toon that had this in its tactics from 1.02). Fixing that promptly removes a lot of annoyance from players.


Perfect example of something I can give to craps in the rain about. While its a big issue for you. I don't see the point in trying to steal using tactics. I want it I'll do it myself. and Combat stealing is stupid to me.  Heck why even try to fix issue with DAO:A when you still can't even get Ancient Elven Boots in DAO(pc).

But quite frankly Bioware reminds me more and more of Mr. Potatamoto.


That sir/ma'am was mad funny xD

Modifié par Ryizen, 16 avril 2010 - 01:15 .


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lets do our responses in bold lettering for effect!


And lets pretend that we're super special forum administrators who think  they  can go around  ordering people  to not complain about Bugs on this forum. 

News flash:   I'm going to  complain  anyway.        So there.    lol

Modifié par Yrkoon, 16 avril 2010 - 03:20 .


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Yrkoon wrote...

lets do our responses in bold lettering for effect!


And lets pretend that we're super special forum administrators who think  they  can go around  ordering people  to not complain about Bugs on this forum. 

News flash:   I'm going to  complain  anyway.        So there.    lol


How about you jump off a bridge and cry about my bold and issues with DAO on the way down smart guy?

FYI my first time doing a quote like that here just in case it didn't work I did it like that so people can tell whats mine and what was done by the other guy.

Oh and News Flash: Your wasting your time. Like my bold? I happen to like it, what you going to do about it?

 While I'm till in bold, allow me to retort. Let the people work on it. It's already pointed out that everyone tripping the same people over and over about the issues isn't going to make them come many faster. Once you drop your issue it should it. Spamming a topic gets you nowhere also makes it harder for them to find out how many people are having the issue (not sure if they do that here or if they have a unique way of checking). This helps tag what issues have priority and what doesn't. Also helps if issues was in tech. Easier to find. 

  Also did I ever say I was a "special forum administrators" as you call it? I don't think I did. Don't like my tone. tough deal with it. Wouldn't want me as a moderator anyway, crap like this would one be closed, or moved to tech support.

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I'm not going to complain or anything, Bioware has proven to be ignorant of the issues with the expansion, and with that there is no need for me to follow the series anymore. Say what you will, but I think I am done, they are not going to release a patch- that much is obvious, so I'm going to trade the games and such to a friend of mine. It's been fun though, the companions in the first game were just great, but it's apparent that the series as a whole is not going anywhere and I would rather not spoil the great game I loved with more unpleasant thoughts.



Bye everyone, have fun. I may be back around if they make a new game that is fairly decent, but I think EA is making that....less likely....

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Ryizen wrote...


 [b]While I'm till in bold, allow me to retort. Let the people work on it.

What could possibly be your point, here?  Are our complaints preventing them from working on it?


It's already pointed out that everyone tripping the same people over and over about the issues isn't going to make them come many faster.

You don't know this for a fact.  Gamer outrage has a history of  lighting fires under the asses of companies and, in fact, making them work/respond faster.

Once you drop your issue...

Forget it.    I'm going to do no such thing,   And as you can see from this ever-growing thread... it doesn't look like others are going to either. 

And I'll ask again:  what makes you think  you can come here and tell us what to post?

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Is anyone else's computer making a high pitch noise during special effects in battle (bombs or spellcasting) if it doesn't crash? I'm afraid this could be causing damage to my computer.



My new computer worked beautifully before 1.03 and now I am saving after every event now just in case. I have no idea how to remove it.



Ryizen, I have patiently waited. I did not want to complain because I was sure the company would want to make their product right, but no one is going to reimburse me if their game destroys my brand new computer. It is sad when people attack each other rather than look for solutions or encouragement to fixing the problem.



Me, I am down to begging. Please bioware.

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attend wrote...
Is anyone else's computer making a high pitch noise during special effects in battle (bombs or spellcasting) if it doesn't crash? I'm afraid this could be causing damage to my computer.

My new computer worked beautifully before 1.03 and now I am saving after every event now just in case. I have no idea how to remove it.

Remove the patch or the problem? 1.03 is automatically installed with the expansion, so the only way to revert to 1.02 (if you still have the file) is to reinstall the game and leave Awakening in its case until a new patch comes out.

Can't say how you would get around the problem though, sorry.