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[attend]

I am willing to post anywhere and everywhere if it will get me help. It is not like I can play my game right now. I have posted in the tech forums and here hoping that someone more knowledgeable than me might have some sort of solution I have not tried.



Thanks Panaman102 for the advise. I have stopped playing and am trying to remain hopeful we see something soon.

[Yrkoon]

Ryizen wrote...

Why complain at all? The whole point here.

We're getting this question.... from YOU?

Didn't you uninstall Dragon age from your computer?    And aren't you still here on the dragon age forums posting?  For crying out loud, I can think of nothing more POINTLESS than hanging around  a forum  devoted to discussion of a game you don't play anymore

Ryizen wrote...

You don't know this for a fact.  Gamer outrage has a history of  lighting fires under the asses of companies and, in fact, making them work/respond faster.

Not really,

Wanna bet?   It was gamer outrage that made Obsidian rush out a hotfix for the Storm of Zehir,  MotB voice track deletion bug within DAYS of  discovery.  It was gamer outrage that caused Bioware to decide to incorporate  RTO gear into Awakenings just one month before  Awakening's release.  It was Gamer outrage that caused the friggin CEO of Bioware to come on these forums and  issue a written apology to the Bazzar "community" dabacle.    You don't know what the f*ck you're talking about, and now you're starting to bore me.

Ryizen wrote...

Forget it.    I'm going to do no such thing,   And as you can see from this ever-growing thread... it doesn't look like others are going to either. 

And I'll ask again:  what makes you think  you can come here and tell us what to post?

You have you not read many of the post most are of me. >_>

I'm not required to  do a comprehensive study of a poster's history before responding to one of his moronic posts.  You flat out told me and others to  stop complaining about the Bugs in Awakening.  And so I came on here to  remind you that until we see a big BIOWARE banner under your Avatar, your silly request is Denied.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 17 avril 2010 - 02:26 .

[SteppenBlud]

Hmmm...I feel if Bioware has a problem with what is being posted they can certainly say so, move the posts to another forum, delete the posts or ban the folks doing it. That has certainly happened in other circumstances on this board.

[AOPotter]

Ryizen wrote...
And I stand by it. Theres a big difference in this topic flat out Complaining and Demand and this topic [ http://social.biowar...index/2274831/1 ]where they are cool headed and telling bioware what the issues are. See I didn't post there. Sure its not in tech but eh they cool about it. and bioware has even drop a line for them. While here you get nothing.

Honestly, sure - we "get" nothing. But what did they "get"?
1. "I can't talk details at the moment" -> lots of information here
2.  "there is another update in the works" -> Unless Bioware has given up on patching the game I would simply assume that, no new information here.
3. "We've all been working to compile issues and QA and the dev team have been in bug triage continuously to decide on the contents of the patch and what fixes it will contain." -> And that tells us... what? You do not even know yet what will be or can be patched? Bug triage: does that mean there are things that will not be patched? On purpose? Like +healing for months now?

I do not really care what Bioware writes on the forums (Like the apology for the bazaar: Last minute legal problems. Yah, right. Because EA has never done this kind of contest before and they seriously never heard of something like different laws in other countries. Or other countries for that matter. "What do you mean Canada? Whats that supposed to be?")  If you are satisfied by a meaningless post with no information value whatsoever: good for you. I'd rather have a patch.

To the point of "asking nicely": Were they "nice" when they took our money and handed us a product that is bugged beyond belief and that we can not return because software can not be returned? If Bioware was a producer of toilet bowls, Awakening would be one that explodes when somebody farts. It starts with "Win2k-compatibility-mode to install" and ends with loosing all your gear during a quest (edit: and not getting it back - for the nitpickers). 

Modifié par AOPotter, 17 avril 2010 - 05:13 .

[Kail Ashton]

So this is the epic rage complaint thread, why is this difficult for you doorknobs to understand? if you get rants come here, if not GTFO

[Gaius Octavian]

I love you Yrkoon.

[ladydesire]

AOPotter wrote...

 Bug triage: does that mean there are things that will not be patched? On purpose? Like +healing for months now?

Yes, that's what it means; not all bugs can get the same priority, no matter how much we might wish they could, and not everything that is considered a bug by the players actually is a bug.

To the point of "asking nicely": Were they "nice" when they took our money and handed us a product that is bugged beyond belief and that we can not return because software can not be returned? If Bioware was a producer of toilet bowls, Awakening would be one that explodes when somebody farts. It starts with "Win2k-compatibility-mode to install" and ends with loosing all your gear during a quest (edit: and not getting it back - for the nitpickers). 

Here is a good example of things; I have not experienced the 100% approval glitch with certain companions in Awakening, though I don't disbelieve the players that post that they have experienced it. I also know that if it was a matter of simply taking the companion into your party to trigger it, Bioware wouldn't be asking for details on how to reproduce it (assuming that this bug is one they are asking that particular question for); if it was that easy, it probably wouldn't have gotten past QA to begin with (I really doubt that even EA would have allowed the game to ship if that was the case). I can't say that I haven't experienced any bugs with Awakening, but what few I have experienced have not been game-breaking ones.

[Yrkoon]

ladydesire wrote...


Here is a good example of things; I have not experienced the 100% approval glitch with certain companions in Awakening, though I don't disbelieve the players that post that they have experienced it. I also know that if it was a matter of simply taking the companion into your party to trigger it, Bioware wouldn't be asking for details on how to reproduce it (assuming that this bug is one they are asking that particular question for);

They're not.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 17 avril 2010 - 07:31 .

[Aeropostle]

I think gaming companies need to be reported to the Better Business Bureau. There is absolutely no accountability by them whatsoever. If they CHOOSE to fix a game they released half-****ed, then we're supposed to be happy with that. There needs to be some organization that watches over these companies to make sure they are tested and market-ready. Because, obviously, the companies don't police themselves for the most part. So we, as gamers, have come to expect that with our hard-earned dollars, a game could very well be a piece of sh!t, which many of them are. At best, they are 90% complete when they are released. Now, with the amount of hardware out there, I'm willing to give them a little bit of a break, but bugs in this game that are so obvious across the board that are addressed with the attitude of "get fixed when we get around to it" is absolutely ridiculous. Especially when we can't return them for a refund. Which, if I could, I would return this piece of crap game. Good companies will admit a mistake, apologize and fix it as soon as possible.



Bioware, these are MAJOR bugs that should not only have been caught before the game went out the door, but fixed the next day or the next week at the latest. Your customer service is absolute crap. I play an mmo and as soon as a major bug is tagged, it is fixed. Usually the next day at the latest. What do you think would happen if you were a hardware store and sold a lawnmower that was known to have problems, and was only 50 - 90% complete? The owner would take it back to get his/her money back. Now say that store refused to do that. All hell would break loose, and you'd be on the 6:00 news that evening. Somehow,you get you get away with this on an almost daily basis.



I love PC games, and Bioware's games in particular, but this is just ridiculous and taking waaaay to long to address. It's time we gamers hold these companies accountable with our dollars, and let them know we aren't going to lie down and take it. Have we even seen an apology for this mess?

[DanaScu]

Aeropostle wrote...

I think gaming companies need to be reported to the Better Business Bureau. There is absolutely no accountability by them whatsoever. If they CHOOSE to fix a game they released half-****ed, then we're supposed to be happy with that. There needs to be some organization that watches over these companies to make sure they are tested and market-ready. Because, obviously, the companies don't police themselves for the most part. So we, as gamers, have come to expect that with our hard-earned dollars, a game could very well be a piece of sh!t, which many of them are. At best, they are 90% complete when they are released. Now, with the amount of hardware out there, I'm willing to give them a little bit of a break, but bugs in this game that are so obvious across the board that are addressed with the attitude of "get fixed when we get around to it" is absolutely ridiculous. Especially when we can't return them for a refund. Which, if I could, I would return this piece of crap game. Good companies will admit a mistake, apologize and fix it as soon as possible.

Bioware, these are MAJOR bugs that should not only have been caught before the game went out the door, but fixed the next day or the next week at the latest. Your customer service is absolute crap. I play an mmo and as soon as a major bug is tagged, it is fixed. Usually the next day at the latest. What do you think would happen if you were a hardware store and sold a lawnmower that was known to have problems, and was only 50 - 90% complete? The owner would take it back to get his/her money back. Now say that store refused to do that. All hell would break loose, and you'd be on the 6:00 news that evening. Somehow,you get you get away with this on an almost daily basis.

I love PC games, and Bioware's games in particular, but this is just ridiculous and taking waaaay to long to address. It's time we gamers hold these companies accountable with our dollars, and let them know we aren't going to lie down and take it. Have we even seen an apology for this mess?

Bioware isn't doing the customer service/tech support. EA is. EA support has traditionally suxxored for ever and ever. The level of non-support EA provides is why I haven't bought an EA game in years. I bought this one fully expecting to not ever get any assistance from EA for any reason. EA also seems to never patch anything until/unless they absolutely have to do so. And they don't apologize. Remember a while ago when the CEO called any and all players complaining about the "are you a pirate yet-have to be logged on to the internet to play a single player off-line game" drm pirates? You know, the people who legally bought the game and couldn't play because they ran out of activations from uninstalling reinstalling the game while following EA's tech non-support's instructions?

EA's eula says they released the software "as is", and they aren't responsible if it doesn't work. Heck, they aren't responsible if it damages your computer, even if they knew about the problem ahead of time. Fun reading, those provisions in the eula. It will probably take a lawsuit to make any changes.

[CybAnt1]

if it was that easy, it probably wouldn't have gotten past QA to begin with 

I'm starting to wonder if they did any, or if they only fully tested on one platform, instead of all three. They must have done some, the game has a "debug room". Alas, even the debug room is bugged. 

Power of Blood is not working, AFAIK, on any PC user's game, sans a mod to fix it.

How did that get past QA? Nobody noticed? I'm asking the same question. Unless the playtesters all tested without any DlC whatsoever. 

[Leon Elsa]

Really, at this point I'd much rather have a toolset update. Let US fix this stuff.

[Feraele]

CybAnt1 wrote...

It sounds like the Sigrun quest is the only real bug that would concern gamers who don't wash their hands 12 times a day.

The other one I'd put in the "major" category is you can lose all your PC's gear in the Silverite mines. 

And yes, RPG playerscan be too much "gearheads" sometimes (there's always equipment to replace it with, sometimes thanks to the weird duplicated uniques, even the same stuff all over again) and you might not rank that as so big. 

So it never hit you. Read the forums. It's hitting plenty of people. Some items trigger it and some don't. Not all the items are DlC either, so it's not exactly the same problem as the "DlC don't transfer" problem. 

Okay being that so far I am on my sixth run through Awakening,  I am on PC....and haven't yet lost my equipment to that Silverite mine bug.    I have no idea what I am doing right, if if this bug is solely due to attempting to bring items across from dlc OTHER THAN RTO? 

Or are these bugs solely to do with consoles?    I think we need to narrow down..how this happens.    Once its clear, perhaps feedback to the Devs.    Can't fix it without the details.     Seems to me there is a feedback device within the game. 

One thing I noted..and that is, the way Awakening is set up....you pretty much have to visit the different places/zones in order.    If you don't do that,  you will see quest npcs with the sign over their heads, indicating there is a finished quest there, but  you can't talk to them.    So you have to go back out and finish off an area...then come back and the quest works.  

Its not like in the MMOs I was used to, where you could hand a quest in..in any order...seems to require a particular order or it doesn't work.

Still occasionally get the cut-scene bug at the end ...the epilogue will run and then all of a sudden you see The Mother screaming and doing her thing..I've seen that repeat as much as 6 times, before I did control, alt, delete to get out.    Not sure what causes it,   but might have something to do with hitting escape to get out of each paragraph box of the epilogue.   Maybe something messes up in there sometimes.    

Doesn't happen every time which is kind of strange.    

[CybAnt1]

Okay being that so far I am on my sixth run through Awakening,  I am on PC....and haven't yet lost my equipment to that Silverite mine bug.    I have no idea what I am doing right, if if this bug is solely due to attempting to bring items across from dlc OTHER THAN RTO? 

No. As I've said before, and my experience concurs with others, it appears having certain items from Origins -- which are not necessarily DlC (although some are) -- equipped (not in your inventory) -- triggers the bug. What you may be doing right is bringing only Awakening items on your main PC into the mines, or if not the "right" Origins items. It's not clear what's wrong about the "wrong" ones but some of the "wrong" ones aren't DlC. (One happens to be the ring Key to the City.) 

You'll know it happens initially for two reasons. The cutscene where the Architect tells you to sleep, sleep ... will be unusually dark. Almost like you're staring at it through a tinted window. Secondly, you'll wake up in your skivvies, even though everybody else is in clothes. (That wasn't supposed to happen.) Third, there will be stuff in your backpack (there isn't supposed to be). Fourth, no 4th experimental subject will spawn. Fifth, the chest near the Qunari will be empty. Sixth, this means your main PC never gets his equipped gear back. 

BTW, a handful of people are reporting that some of their companions' gear is not showing up on experimentals 1,2, or 3 either, but it seems to be a smaller number. 

[Dlokir]

Just for the quote, I had a bug, no third specialization point for all characters. Awakening bug... until I remember that when I installed Advanced Tactics I also installed a patch advised changing tactics slots get along level up.

Except that it's not a mod and the file also define specializations points get along levels.

I wanted quote it for the little story, what's weird is that it's only when someone in a forum mentioned in reinstalled the game fully and solve this problem, that it made me think more about the bug until I remembered the detail.

Modifié par Dlokir, 18 avril 2010 - 02:51 .

[Lugh Koba]

Well just over the weekend it seems EA has created a train wreck of their "Game of The Year". My wife and I both play the PC versions. Complete sets of armor of active charactors including the hero are turning up totally missing. You come out of it with no armor on at all and it is also not even in my inventory. Even downloaded expansions like Wardens Keep TOTALLY GONE!!! At this point and time the PC version isnt even playable due to random losses of equipment and missions. So some way or another these guys need to make good on this lost content. We have paid cash for this remember EA!

[Feraele]

Lugh Koba wrote...

Well just over the weekend it seems EA has created a train wreck of their "Game of The Year". My wife and I both play the PC versions. Complete sets of armor of active charactors including the hero are turning up totally missing. You come out of it with no armor on at all and it is also not even in my inventory. Even downloaded expansions like Wardens Keep TOTALLY GONE!!! At this point and time the PC version isnt even playable due to random losses of equipment and missions. So some way or another these guys need to make good on this lost content. We have paid cash for this remember EA!

THAT is very very odd, I play on PC as well and don't run into the missing armor issues, well unless I am porting a character over from Origins to Awakening...certain items from dlcs will not port over.    RTO items do..just not the others.

[Feraele]

CybAnt1 wrote...

Okay being that so far I am on my sixth run through Awakening,  I am on PC....and haven't yet lost my equipment to that Silverite mine bug.    I have no idea what I am doing right, if if this bug is solely due to attempting to bring items across from dlc OTHER THAN RTO? 

No. As I've said before, and my experience concurs with others, it appears having certain items from Origins -- which are not necessarily DlC (although some are) -- equipped (not in your inventory) -- triggers the bug. What you may be doing right is bringing only Awakening items on your main PC into the mines, or if not the "right" Origins items. It's not clear what's wrong about the "wrong" ones but some of the "wrong" ones aren't DlC. (One happens to be the ring Key to the City.) 

You'll know it happens initially for two reasons. The cutscene where the Architect tells you to sleep, sleep ... will be unusually dark. Almost like you're staring at it through a tinted window. Secondly, you'll wake up in your skivvies, even though everybody else is in clothes. (That wasn't supposed to happen.) Third, there will be stuff in your backpack (there isn't supposed to be). Fourth, no 4th experimental subject will spawn. Fifth, the chest near the Qunari will be empty. Sixth, this means your main PC never gets his equipped gear back. 

BTW, a handful of people are reporting that some of their companions' gear is not showing up on experimentals 1,2, or 3 either, but it seems to be a smaller number. 

I have key to the City equipped on EVERY character...so that can't be it by itself.   It probably is some combination of items together that create that bug.     If so...I don't tend to buy the items ..that cost say 172 gold..or whatever.  Is it one of these ..equipped along with that ring that causes it.

Because basically I use Key to the City every  chance I get..and again,  no problems, no loss of equipment.

[Feraele]

Wanted to mention, the only time I see a weird screen like that, is when you are heading for the Nest, encounter the Architect and the whole screen during a small part of the conversation goes, kind of grey black, with the text still appearing as it should. I just click my response and it goes away. Heh I wonder if this "bug" migrates or something..or perhaps has to do with the Architect and the combination of certain items coming from Origins?



Now there's a thought.

[CybAnt1]

I have key to the City equipped on EVERY character...so that can't be it by itself.  

You might be right. I just remember that someone in one of the "Silverite Mines Bug" threads (there've been a few of them, for those who somehow don't believe this really happens) listed a series of items that seemed to cause the bug to occur for her. I definitely remember that was one of the items. But she listed several. 

The main point: I definitely recall all were from Origins, but not all were DlC. 

[Lugh Koba]

Thanks Feraele for the input. It just gets frustrating beyond words spending hours upon hours developing a char and on top of that spending a small fortune on armor then in an instant its gone with no funds to replace it. The really odd part is we hae both been playing on and off since release of DAO and this happened the same day. Ive been doing ALOT of digging and found a release beta patch that is supposed to address some of the problems with the 1.03 update. Im still debating though on trying it. I dont want to screew things up more than they already are. Here is what I found.



DA Update Service Diagnostic Beta - Standalone beta application that includes DA Content Update service fixes that later went into Patch 1.03. Only use this if you don't want the other changes in Patch 1.03. Originally posted by Bioware's Jason Leong