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[Ray Joel Oh]

I think we can all agree that that particular news article was a hack job. Even many people at Fox News would agree.

[GuardianAngel470]

screwoffreg wrote...

Politics is hardly unnecessary as the very thing we are discussing deals with political pressure or concerns supposedly being the reason such issues were cut. If we started talking about the Health bill or the war in afghanistan you'd have a point. Otherwise it is a very salient issue to discuss the political forces that may or may not have influenced a decision in the game.

I honestly don't understand why there is a discussion at all.  The devs said they chose to make shepard hetero as they percieve this franchise as a third person narative, giving them the ability to make whatever decisions they want.  That is the reason they did what they did, what is there to discuss?

[Xaijin]

YOU LOVE GLEN BECK.



LOVE HIM.



*shudder*

[Xaijin]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Politics is hardly unnecessary as the very thing we are discussing deals with political pressure or concerns supposedly being the reason such issues were cut. If we started talking about the Health bill or the war in afghanistan you'd have a point. Otherwise it is a very salient issue to discuss the political forces that may or may not have influenced a decision in the game.

I honestly don't understand why there is a discussion at all.  The devs said they chose to make shepard hetero as they percieve this franchise as a third person narative, giving them the ability to make whatever decisions they want.  That is the reason they did what they did, what is there to discuss?

Read the original post and the lack of context or definitive statements therein.

[Ray Joel Oh]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I think we can all agree that that particular news article was a hack job. Even many people at Fox News would agree.

Yeah you talking about the tv debate discussion about ME1 on Fox?  Yeah that was sloppy.

Yes, that.  "Luke Skywalker meets Debbie Does Dallas!!!!!!!"

[GuardianAngel470]

Xaijin wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Politics is hardly unnecessary as the very thing we are discussing deals with political pressure or concerns supposedly being the reason such issues were cut. If we started talking about the Health bill or the war in afghanistan you'd have a point. Otherwise it is a very salient issue to discuss the political forces that may or may not have influenced a decision in the game.

I honestly don't understand why there is a discussion at all.  The devs said they chose to make shepard hetero as they percieve this franchise as a third person narative, giving them the ability to make whatever decisions they want.  That is the reason they did what they did, what is there to discuss?

Read the original post and the lack of context or definitive statements therein.

I read it and that is exactly what I am basing my opinion on.  They both said that it is a third person narative which means that they can do whatever they want with it and we have to accept that that is who shepard is. 

I agree that they were shifty, but if you honestly think that is a good basis for discussion then you must think the US never went to the moon and that Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks.  Just remember they hit the Pentagon too.

[Nightwriter]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

I think we can all agree that that particular news article was a hack job. Even many people at Fox News would agree.

Yeah you talking about the tv debate discussion about ME1 on Fox?  Yeah that was sloppy.

The memory still fills me with flames. Flames!

Flames of ANGER!!

[Onyx Jaguar]

Xaijin wrote...

YOU LOVE GLEN BECK.

LOVE HIM.

*shudder*

Hey remember when he was on CNN?  (ok, HN, but still part of CNN).  GOOD TIMES

[Ziggy]

 

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Politics is hardly unnecessary as the very thing we are discussing deals with political pressure or concerns supposedly being the reason such issues were cut. If we started talking about the Health bill or the war in afghanistan you'd have a point. Otherwise it is a very salient issue to discuss the political forces that may or may not have influenced a decision in the game.

I honestly don't understand why there is a discussion at all.  The devs said they chose to make shepard hetero as they percieve this franchise as a third person narative, giving them the ability to make whatever decisions they want.  That is the reason they did what they did, what is there to discuss?

Read the original post and the lack of context or definitive statements therein.

I read it and that is exactly what I am basing my opinion on.  They both said that it is a third person narative which means that they can do whatever they want with it and we have to accept that that is who shepard is.  

I agree that they were shifty, but if you honestly think that is a good basis for discussion then you must think the US never went to the moon and that Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks.  Just remember they hit the Pentagon too.

So you can make shepard male, female, paragon, renegade, straight, lesbian, but not gay because that's not who shepard is? Hmmm... 

[Onyx Jaguar]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Politics is hardly unnecessary as the very thing we are discussing deals with political pressure or concerns supposedly being the reason such issues were cut. If we started talking about the Health bill or the war in afghanistan you'd have a point. Otherwise it is a very salient issue to discuss the political forces that may or may not have influenced a decision in the game.

I honestly don't understand why there is a discussion at all.  The devs said they chose to make shepard hetero as they percieve this franchise as a third person narative, giving them the ability to make whatever decisions they want.  That is the reason they did what they did, what is there to discuss?

Read the original post and the lack of context or definitive statements therein.

I read it and that is exactly what I am basing my opinion on.  They both said that it is a third person narative which means that they can do whatever they want with it and we have to accept that that is who shepard is. 

I agree that they were shifty, but if you honestly think that is a good basis for discussion then you must think the US never went to the moon and that Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks.  Just remember they hit the Pentagon too.

Also Hitler.  Lets Godwin this thread while we are at it

[Xaijin]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Politics is hardly unnecessary as the very thing we are discussing deals with political pressure or concerns supposedly being the reason such issues were cut. If we started talking about the Health bill or the war in afghanistan you'd have a point. Otherwise it is a very salient issue to discuss the political forces that may or may not have influenced a decision in the game.

I honestly don't understand why there is a discussion at all.  The devs said they chose to make shepard hetero as they percieve this franchise as a third person narative, giving them the ability to make whatever decisions they want.  That is the reason they did what they did, what is there to discuss?

Read the original post and the lack of context or definitive statements therein.

I read it and that is exactly what I am basing my opinion on.  They both said that it is a third person narative which means that they can do whatever they want with it and we have to accept that that is who shepard is. 

I agree that they were shifty, but if you honestly think that is a good basis for discussion then you must think the US never went to the moon and that Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks.  Just remember they hit the Pentagon too.

I'm not calling conspiracy, I'm just wondering WHY, if it is completely optional to even recruit a gay character at all for a male protag, that it's met with such ARRRRGGAGAGAGAGAG BAAAW DERK DERKA JIHAD.

[Nightwriter]

If they were going to say their game is a third person narrative with much of the storytelling pre-decided for us, then they shouldn't have sold their entire fanbase on the concept of freedom of choice in the game, or offered a lesbian relationship in game 1 in the first place, since Shepard is supposed to be so archetypically hetero.

[Karstedt]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Xaijin wrote...
I'm not calling conspiracy, I'm just wondering WHY, if it is completely optional to even recruit a gay character at all for a male protag, that it's met with such ARRRRGGAGAGAGAGAG BAAAW DERK DERKA JIHAD.

Because there is little tolerance for M/M in western society IMO.

True dat! Cause it's gross. Plus, haven't you heard the argument for why? If it were ok, everyone would do it! And I certaibly don't want to do it, so it must remain intolerable!

[Nightwriter]

JohnnyDollar wrote...

Seriously?  Shoot I don't get worked up like that any more over that type of stuff.

What am I supposed to say? You're a better person than I. I hate it when they go on about judging an awesome game they've never played before.

Plus Fox never really apologized. It was only that one journalist or whatever, wasn't it? Can't remember her name...

[Ray Joel Oh]

Karstedt wrote...

True dat! Cause it's gross. Plus, haven't you heard the argument for why? If it were ok, everyone would do it! And I certaibly don't want to do it, so it must remain intolerable!

Are you for real

[Collider]

Jay, that's clear sarcasm on Karstedt's part. Then again, you may be realizing that.

[Nightwriter]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Karstedt wrote...

True dat! Cause it's gross. Plus, haven't you heard the argument for why? If it were ok, everyone would do it! And I certaibly don't want to do it, so it must remain intolerable!

Are you for real

I'm thinking no. Well, I'm hoping no.

[Collider]

Quite clearly satire on the ways that some people aligned against homosexuality think.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Collider wrote...

Jay, that's clear sarcasm on Karstedt's part. Then again, you may be realizing that.

Alright, I'm not familiar with his/her posting history.  And there's that darned Poe's Law.