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astrallite wrote...

Actually I think it would be cooler to follow the progression of the Baldur's Gate series, and another story about the blight would be completely uninteresting.

The original Baldur's Gate was the epic, sweeping chaos that would have thousands and thousands dying and turn the entire region into a killing field.

Baldur's Gate 2 was a personal story, and took place in a much larger game world that largely didn't care about you or thought you were some great hero. These places had their own problems, much bigger than yours, and you ended travelling many different parts of the world where the where the "villain" of the tale has no part in, but is an adventure of its own. Baldur's Gate 2 was much better received than Baldur's Gate 1, and the story and world had a large part to do with it. The heroic tale is a little too repetitive and you end up feeling like you are crawling through a tunnel.

The Blight in DA:O occured only in Fereldan. There are tons of countries in the continent of Thedas the story could take place, in which the Blight is nothing more than a plague taking place far away, and you don't have to be a Grey Warden.

What did Flemeth say? "Men's hearts hold darker shadows than any darkspawn? (afaik?). There is room for much more interesting villains and conflicts in Thedas.

I wouldn't mind seeing Thedas as just an adventurer, rather than "The Warden - Savior to All", often makes for quite a different feeling. Although, ToB was similar to BG1, with the whole world changing plot, but I can't see DA taking a similar turn.

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i hope i get to play as my warden still for a while anyways i'd hate to have to start a new character all over again hmmmmmph i like my hfn character shes cool

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uberdowzen wrote...

nerdage wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

I reckon there will be another expansion continuing the Warden's story and then DA2 will jump ahead to the next blight. That'd be pretty cool, if we returned and the world had changed over 2 hundred years or something.

But, asuming the next game will be called Dragon Age and asuming I've understood the DA calendar, it could only be set as far as 70 years after origins, any later would be a new age...


I have thought about that. The reason I dismissed that was because blights only occur every few hundred years and I'm assuming that's what the next 2 games will be about.

I'm hoping the next DAO expansion won't be focussing on the blight, as it'd be cool to see the world branch out a bit.


I have a feeling the next expansion won't be focusing on the Blight, but there's evidence in Awakening that the next Blight doesn't occur centuries in the future...in fact, it takes place a few years after the events of Awakening.
**spoilers, but I need to prove a point***
If you play as an Orlesian Warden, your epilogue states that you stay on as Commander of the Grey for a few years, but then you are called to Weisshalpt(sp?) because there are rumors of a Blight in that area. This leads me to believe that a sequel will possibly take place within the Warden's lifetime.
 
I mean, I know people are skeptical about fighting the Blight again, but the DA:O universe, as a game, is centered around the Grey Wardens. I can't really picture the sequels to DA:O focusing on anything other than the Blights...and now that I think about it, I could forsee them taking place within Thedas' next 70 years. After all, when the Chantry proclaimed the Dragon Age, they predicted that it would be both an Age of great strife, and great change. I would call the events of DA:O grand, but not enought to define an entire Age of Thedas.

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Zangler1 wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

nerdage wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

I reckon there will be another expansion continuing the Warden's story and then DA2 will jump ahead to the next blight. That'd be pretty cool, if we returned and the world had changed over 2 hundred years or something.

But, asuming the next game will be called Dragon Age and asuming I've understood the DA calendar, it could only be set as far as 70 years after origins, any later would be a new age...


I have thought about that. The reason I dismissed that was because blights only occur every few hundred years and I'm assuming that's what the next 2 games will be about.

I'm hoping the next DAO expansion won't be focussing on the blight, as it'd be cool to see the world branch out a bit.


I have a feeling the next expansion won't be focusing on the Blight, but there's evidence in Awakening that the next Blight doesn't occur centuries in the future...in fact, it takes place a few years after the events of Awakening.
**spoilers, but I need to prove a point***
If you play as an Orlesian Warden, your epilogue states that you stay on as Commander of the Grey for a few years, but then you are called to Weisshalpt(sp?) because there are rumors of a Blight in that area. This leads me to believe that a sequel will possibly take place within the Warden's lifetime.
 
I mean, I know people are skeptical about fighting the Blight again, but the DA:O universe, as a game, is centered around the Grey Wardens. I can't really picture the sequels to DA:O focusing on anything other than the Blights...and now that I think about it, I could forsee them taking place within Thedas' next 70 years. After all, when the Chantry proclaimed the Dragon Age, they predicted that it would be both an Age of great strife, and great change. I would call the events of DA:O grand, but not enought to define an entire Age of Thedas.

Really? Silly me, only playing Awakening once with an imported character.

---Spoilers (Awakening epilogue), hard to avoid, really...---

Looking at some of the awakening epilogues (Wiki) there doesn't seem to be any definitive ending as far as the warden is concerned, "The Warden never returns to Vigil's Keep", "Perhaps they adventure together still", " the Warden vanishes, and nobody knows why", hardly the tasty closure you'd expect at the end of a story. So there's no question to me that we'll see our character again somewhere, and if it's during this rumored new blight then it may well be a full game, the last blight seemed to be the smallest by far, I'd be disappointed if the next one was smaller still.

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Overall I found Awakening to be every bit as enjoyable (even more-so at times) as DA:O. Another expansion would be appropriate. Loved the direction Bioware has chosen to go with the Darkspawn. (Something distinct for the DA baddies) Continued development of this angle with ever increasing improvements to both automated and user scripted tactics, trade skills, and item collection will keep this a strong title for years…

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Dragon Age 2 will obviously take some time if they're going to make it as epic or better than the first one... if they're even going to make one. As for the expansions, they may not take up as much time but they should be just as good. Awakening was okay and I liked it, I just didn't love it like I did DA:O, so whatever expansion is next... I hope it surpasses Awakening at least. This is a good game and title. I'd really like to see where else it's heading to. :)

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Hrathen wrote...

Overall I found Awakening to be every bit as enjoyable (even more-so at times) as DA:O. Another expansion would be appropriate. Loved the direction Bioware has chosen to go with the Darkspawn. (Something distinct for the DA baddies) Continued development of this angle with ever increasing improvements to both automated and user scripted tactics, trade skills, and item collection will keep this a strong title for years…


I absolutley agree. I'm sure we'll see another expansion before DA2. Whether the date of Feb 1st 2011 will be the new sequel or not i'm not too sure. From pieces of interviews and comments that EA heads and Bioware developers have let slip though, I think it's highly possible that the said date could indeed be the bonafide sequel. So perhaps another expansion in 6 months time? It wouldn't suprise me.

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Zangler1 wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

nerdage wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...

I reckon there will be another expansion continuing the Warden's story and then DA2 will jump ahead to the next blight. That'd be pretty cool, if we returned and the world had changed over 2 hundred years or something.

But, asuming the next game will be called Dragon Age and asuming I've understood the DA calendar, it could only be set as far as 70 years after origins, any later would be a new age...


I have thought about that. The reason I dismissed that was because blights only occur every few hundred years and I'm assuming that's what the next 2 games will be about.

I'm hoping the next DAO expansion won't be focussing on the blight, as it'd be cool to see the world branch out a bit.


I have a feeling the next expansion won't be focusing on the Blight, but there's evidence in Awakening that the next Blight doesn't occur centuries in the future...in fact, it takes place a few years after the events of Awakening.
**spoilers, but I need to prove a point***
If you play as an Orlesian Warden, your epilogue states that you stay on as Commander of the Grey for a few years, but then you are called to Weisshalpt(sp?) because there are rumors of a Blight in that area. This leads me to believe that a sequel will possibly take place within the Warden's lifetime.
 
I mean, I know people are skeptical about fighting the Blight again, but the DA:O universe, as a game, is centered around the Grey Wardens. I can't really picture the sequels to DA:O focusing on anything other than the Blights...and now that I think about it, I could forsee them taking place within Thedas' next 70 years. After all, when the Chantry proclaimed the Dragon Age, they predicted that it would be both an Age of great strife, and great change. I would call the events of DA:O grand, but not enought to define an entire Age of Thedas.


Oh really? Cool that backs up my theory that DA2 will be in Orlais (?).

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If you were called to Weisshaupt then it would be set in the Anderfels, but I'd rather Orlais, the Anderfels sounds like a bit of a wasteland.

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nerdage wrote...

If you were called to Weisshaupt then it would be set in the Anderfels, but I'd rather Orlais, the Anderfels sounds like a bit of a wasteland.


Oh, whoops. The shame.

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I am hoping they finish the Morrigan story in an expansion so we can explore other areas in DA 2.

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ME1 - ME2 - ME3 all seem focussed on continuing the story of one character; "Shepard".



They've never really put this forward as the goal for the DA series.



I suspect, but could be wrong, the Warden has one more story in one more expansion, where the loose ends of both Origins (i.e. mostly, Morrigan's Quest for Baby) and Awakening (i.e. what the hell was the Architect really up to) get tied up.



And that will be curtains. The next epilogue will have him going to his Calling, bow to credits.



I suspect DA 2 will have a new char and a new story arc. Question being, will Darkspawn and Blights and Gray Wardens still be the focus? Could it be as unimaginative as starting out as YANO Gray Warden, just a different one? Off to stop Blight Round 2? Personally, I hope not.



I'm hoping the writers are imaginative enough so that this game world may expand to have other protagonists (or protag organizations) and other adversaries (organized enemies).



I guess we'll see.






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uberdowzen wrote...

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Considering that according to the voice actress for Lilianna said that Lil will be in the next DLC, I would say DLC's are coming, how many I don't know. I do not see another expansion though, I think we will be seeing DA: 2 in Feb of 2011


I dunno, it took Bioware about a year to make Awakening, so I don't think they could update the engine and make another 80-100 hour campaign in a year. That time scale I'd say matches more closely
with an expansion.


I have to agree. That's just not enough time for another game the size and complexity of DA:Origins. It's an expansion, or a significantly smaller game.

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nerdage wrote...

uberdowzen wrote...
I reckon there will be another expansion continuing the Warden's story and then DA2 will jump ahead to the next blight. That'd be pretty cool, if we returned and the world had changed over 2 hundred years or something.[/quote But, asuming the next game will be called Dragon Age and asuming I've understood the DA calendar, it could only be set as far as 70 years after origins, any later would be a new age...

I have thought about that. The reason I dismissed that was because blights only occur every few hundred years and I'm assuming that's what the next 2 games will be about. I'm hoping the next DAO expansion won't be focussing on the blight, as it'd be cool to see the world branch out a bit.

I didn't Download Warden's Keep for pointless reason. I Downloaded Warden's Keep so I could drink that Power of Blood Vial which would give me the ability to live over 2 centuries like he did.

Modifié par Fycan, 07 avril 2010 - 01:38 .


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uberdowzen wrote...
I reckon there will be another expansion continuing the Warden's story and then DA2 will jump ahead to the next blight. That'd be pretty cool, if we returned and the world had changed over 2 hundred years or something.[/quote But, asuming the next game will be called Dragon Age and asuming I've understood the DA calendar, it could only be set as far as 70 years after origins, any later would be a new age...
----Spoiler, sort of----
and, asuming that Alistair was right about his "you've got 30 years" timeframe, the Origins warden should be alive for almost half of the current age, so it's not impossible that the current character could find their way into DA2. Anyway, I'd like my current character to be concluded in the next full game, rather than an expansion, but so long as it's a good ending to the story I'm not all that bothered.

You know it would be really cool if our character could go into the Sequal making total gameplay of around 300 hours and in the end he would be like 99 years old and had to end another Archdemon's life himself. Knowing he's  already dying of age, everyone are forced to make the Ultimate Sacrifice at age 99 for the people, that'd b so Dramatic @_@

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So, really, it would be in everybody's interest to have our Warden live up to about 200 years of age just like Lord Avernus @ Warden's Keep. We then can go through several Blights and have a lot more journey and issues to attend to.



Only setback I see is how we have too many Skills and Talent Points already, to the point where I do not see any more than 10 additional Talents added to each class, which could mean we can only be expecting 1 more Expansion and that's it. Maybe couple more $10 1-hour-DLC & $5 Christmas item DLC.

Modifié par Fycan, 07 avril 2010 - 01:46 .


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before the abortion that is awakenings I'd of said DLC/Expansions and give DA-2 time..



now though....forget the DLC/Expansions Bio...you suck at them....get everyone on DA-2....we'll wait.

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1 more expansion

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I promised Sten I would go with him to his homeland. That should be the expansion!

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Well in the Origins you were just a Grey Warden, in Awakening you were a Warden-Commander, I see it fit that because of your action which are pretty obvious (won't name them because of spoilers:) you get promoted to First Warden... now that would be awesome:)

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That is a good point Svenus. I could even see that happening. But i'd say probably not untill nearer the end of our Wardens tale. Which I, personally, hope goes on right to the end of the Dragon Age series. I don't want to play another Warden or another character. I like traveling through an epic journey with one character. Watching the impact your Warden has on the world around him/her is one of the features I love most about these games. It really lets us settle into our character. In true RPG fashion. I don't want to have an ever changing protagonist. My attention span can take it - as long as the very talented writers of Dragon Age can too.

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Won't they just carry it on like they have with Mass Effect 2? I think they should definatly be able to carry on our Characters in expansion or even in a new game it adds so much more depth to a game so please biowar please!?

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1 idea i always had for a sequal or expansion would be a Grey Warden civil war. This would give us a break from the blight while still focusing on the Grey Wardens. The premise for this idea is how they're always saying how the Grey Wardens in the Anderfels r different and more harsh than the rest, however they r also some of the most well established. So what if they decided that to end the blights they should take over the other countries and force all citizens to take the joining? Suddenly you would be forced to choose sides between your Grey Warden brethren.

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I hope it's another expansion, a bit too early for dragon age 2

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Suron wrote...

before the abortion that is awakenings I'd of said DLC/Expansions and give DA-2 time..

now though....forget the DLC/Expansions Bio...you suck at them....get everyone on DA-2....we'll wait.


There was nothing wrong with Awakening, it was 20-30 hours of new content just like Bioware said. It wasn't quite as well crafted as DAO but I enjoyed it a lot.