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[Collider]

Pacifien wrote...

BTG_01 wrote...
Just my opinion, I know others disagree; one guy called me a retard before for suggesting it.

The very first time I even bothered to talk about Tali, it had to do with creating an alien quality to her. I got called far worse than a retard. I thought I just had the most unpopular sentiments about the character, so it's interesting to see others with similar viewpoints in the Tali thread, at least in regards to her looks.

Maybe one day I'll try to discuss what I really think about quarians taking back their homeworld. Think it would be like going into the Jack thread and saying Jack should have hair, though.

It simply seems like you are never posting in the thread when the thread is at it's best. Some hours ago I had a great conversation in here.

[Kalashnikov]

Collider wrote...

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

clearly because tali is now a romance option and her feelings for shepard probably have cropped up again after thinking he was dead for 2 years and all that. 

[kingcharles1337]

Pacifien wrote...

TTTX wrote...
no I'm not good at stuff like that, but I'm sure someday I'll find someone.

Well, actually, I meant a woman should take up engineering, then she'll find her decent man easier.

Men still have it harder. Get into a girl's good graces, suddenly you're friendzoned. Can't win.

This is very true in most respects. There have been numerious times for me personally when i have gotten the you are a wonderful guy and any girl would be blessed to have you, But i don't want to lose you as a friend.

I will not lie it has turned me into quite the Cynic.

[KnotEngaged]

Comparisons between Liara's romance and Tali's romance will be met with ire and disdain.

[Pacifien]

Thundertactics wrote...

Oh lord, one of the later asari concepts...

I like the skirt at least.

[Throw_this_away]

Pacifien wrote...

Throw_this_away wrote...
2. Personality.  From the start Tali is sweet, friendly, innocent, virginal, loyal, and she has an obvious crush on sheploo in ME2.  Who doesn't want that?  We are all nice guys... and people tend to like other nice people.  Miranda is arrogant and tells you off.  Jack tells you off with a series of 4 letter words.  Both have been around the bend quite a bit which is a turn-off to modest nice-guy types.  Both Miranda and Jack are more loving once you get to know them... but for many, they burn their romantic bridges due to their ethics and dialogue early in the game.        

The Mirandas and Jacks of the real world... I've become friends with both sorts, but I can certainly tell you it wasn't on first impression. Or second or third impressions either.

Some of Tali's mannerisms in ME2 I think are transplants from Liara's personality. Everything used to describe Tali here could easily translated to Liara from ME1. That's actually part of what irked me about Tali's character in ME2, why I prefer to push her at arm's length. I'd rather have talked about engines. What's it take to turbocharge that ship?

I dated a girl very mich like Miranda.  Never hung with the Jack crowd however.  

Agreed to the similarities of ME2 Tali to Liara's character.  They needed a "nice girl" to give some LI variety (to balance Jack's bad girl, and Miranda's in-between).  They wanted someone to appeal to everyone.  Tali's personality appealed to most for obvious reasons. 

That is why Liara was more popular than Ashley in ME1.  Ashley would make comments like "I can;t tell the difference between the animals and the aliens".  Liara was just cute and friendly, and inexperienced and enamored over shep.  

[TTTX]

Collider wrote...

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I noticed that too.

[Collider]

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Liara...

I liked that they developed Liara's character, because she sorely needed it, more so than any other ME1 squad mate. Liara took an odd direction, but her character has become more nuanced and interesting from it.

[Goat_Shepard]

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Liara...

I kinda don't wanna get into this now.  When the comparisons start, that is. It's difficult to relate, so we tend to put more human characteristics on them, when quarians, humans, and asari are all completely different.

[Pacifien]

Throw_this_away wrote...
That is why Liara was more popular than Ashley in ME1.  Ashley would make comments like "I can;t tell the difference between the animals and the aliens".  Liara was just cute and friendly, and inexperienced and enamored over shep.  

Okay, nothing to do with Tali, but I had to laugh while listening to the news report about Ashley in ME2 where the announcer said she was quoted to have said once "Human or alien, we're all just animals."

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
It simply seems like you are never posting in the thread when the thread is at it's best. Some hours ago I had a great conversation in here.

Hey, you know just how high my demands are about discussion around this place, not just this thread.

[Someone With Mass]

Collider wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Liara...

I liked that they developed Liara's character, because she sorely needed it, more so than any other ME1 squad mate. Liara took an odd direction, but her character has become more nuanced and interesting from it.

It's just that the turn she did was based on the events in a comic book. Which didn't catch her character, either.

[Throw_this_away]

Collider wrote...

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I agree 110%.  However, they were both designed/written to appeal to the same demographic.  

[TTTX]

Pacifien wrote...

Throw_this_away wrote...
That is why Liara was more popular than Ashley in ME1.  Ashley would make comments like "I can;t tell the difference between the animals and the aliens".  Liara was just cute and friendly, and inexperienced and enamored over shep.  

Okay, nothing to do with Tali, but I had to laugh while listening to the news report about Ashley in ME2 where the announcer said she was quoted to have said once "Human or alien, we're all just animals."

if you look at it from a evolotion point of view, she's right.

[Homebound]

Pacifien wrote...

Throw_this_away wrote...
That is why Liara was more popular than Ashley in ME1.  Ashley would make comments like "I can;t tell the difference between the animals and the aliens".  Liara was just cute and friendly, and inexperienced and enamored over shep.  

Okay, nothing to do with Tali, but I had to laugh while listening to the news report about Ashley in ME2 where the announcer said she was quoted to have said once "Human or alien, we're all just animals."

You got Ashley killed on Virmire didnt you?

High-five!

[kingcharles1337]

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
It simply seems like you are never posting in the thread when the thread is at it's best. Some hours ago I had a great conversation in here.

Hey, you know just how high my demands are about discussion around this place, not just this thread.

Intelligent Discussion on the internet. Have all the /b/tards finally died?

[TTTX]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Liara...

I liked that they developed Liara's character, because she sorely needed it, more so than any other ME1 squad mate. Liara took an odd direction, but her character has become more nuanced and interesting from it.

It's just that the turn she did was based on the events in a comic book. Which didn't catch her character, either.

people can change when something bad happens to them.

[Throw_this_away]

Pacifien wrote...

Throw_this_away wrote...
That is why Liara was more popular than Ashley in ME1.  Ashley would make comments like "I can;t tell the difference between the animals and the aliens".  Liara was just cute and friendly, and inexperienced and enamored over shep.  

Okay, nothing to do with Tali, but I had to laugh while listening to the news report about Ashley in ME2 where the announcer said she was quoted to have said once "Human or alien, we're all just animals."

military working hard to repair a damaged image in the eyes of the media. 

[Collider]

kingcharles1337 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
It simply seems like you are never posting in the thread when the thread is at it's best. Some hours ago I had a great conversation in here.

Hey, you know just how high my demands are about discussion around this place, not just this thread.

Intelligent Discussion on the internet. Have all the /b/tards finally died?

The thread is just better when most people are sleeping and NuclearBuddha, Azint, Phil, etc are on. A great deal better.

[Homebound]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Liara...

I liked that they developed Liara's character, because she sorely needed it, more so than any other ME1 squad mate. Liara took an odd direction, but her character has become more nuanced and interesting from it.

It's just that the turn she did was based on the events in a comic book. Which didn't catch her character, either.

I notice this trend a lot with videogames. Too much filler crap and buying novels just so you know Character Johnny Somebody likes the smell of apple pies and the color red.

[Someone With Mass]

Pacifien wrote...
Okay, nothing to do with Tali, but I had to laugh while listening to the news report about Ashley in ME2 where the announcer said she was quoted to have said once "Human or alien, we're all just animals."

Huh. I must've missed that.

Can't she decide which side she should be on or what?

[Collider]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Collider wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Tali.

I noticed a wealth of differences between ME1 Liara and ME2 Liara...

I liked that they developed Liara's character, because she sorely needed it, more so than any other ME1 squad mate. Liara took an odd direction, but her character has become more nuanced and interesting from it.

It's just that the turn she did was based on the events in a comic book. Which didn't catch her character, either.

I agree. The change was very jarring, particularly for those who did
not read the comics. However, it has made the Liara character at the
very least a little bit compelling for me. I get to see conflict within
her character that does not lie solely within her romance.

Modifié par Collider, 25 juillet 2010 - 04:03 .

[Homebound]

Collider wrote...

kingcharles1337 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
It simply seems like you are never posting in the thread when the thread is at it's best. Some hours ago I had a great conversation in here.

Hey, you know just how high my demands are about discussion around this place, not just this thread.

Intelligent Discussion on the internet. Have all the /b/tards finally died?

The thread is just better when most people are sleeping and NuclearBuddha, Azint, Phil, etc are on. A great deal better.

lol b, so overrated. They like to smell their fart in wine glasses.

Anyways, I have to disagree. Anybody but those guys on makes the thread better. Azint is always trolling, Rip is always yelling at stuff, etc.

[kingcharles1337]

Collider wrote...

kingcharles1337 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

Collider wrote...
It simply seems like you are never posting in the thread when the thread is at it's best. Some hours ago I had a great conversation in here.

Hey, you know just how high my demands are about discussion around this place, not just this thread.

Intelligent Discussion on the internet. Have all the /b/tards finally died?

The thread is just better when most people are sleeping and NuclearBuddha, Azint, Phil, etc are on. A great deal better.

Hopefully i will be able to be one of the people that add to the intelligent discussion and makes the thread better.

[Pacifien]

Someone With Mass wrote...
It's just that the turn she did was based on the events in a comic book. Which didn't catch her character, either.

I really want to rant about their failure to understand how to design a good comic book. But talk about derailing a thread.

Better probably to think about what makes for a good Tali comic book story. Or quarian. The Cerberus Daily News did a fine job of showing us a different side of Turians with the scuffle on Taetrus as well.