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#46201
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MrBoomba wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

MrBoomba wrote...

Miranda also taps into all of the systems and could find out pretty much anything she wants, which can be shown in the email you can get from Mirandas sister if you have her talk to her. It says something along the lines P.P.S. Miranda I know you can see all of this stop reading his messages.


Yeah but I don't think Tali is messaging anyone about her feelings for Shep. :P


i'm talking more of how she could hear whatever EDI can considering a lot of the context/dialogue happens near her consoles.


EDI is too buisy flirting with Jocker :P also Tali says she removed various microphones... and we dont really know if EDI can spy, i'm more inclined to think that EDI will always "pop up" when she uses a console

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Calinstel wrote...

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*snip*

2 reasons:
1.  Purple is hot :wub:

2.  Who wants their aliens to have human colored skin?  Purple isn't taken by any race, and its easy to look at her suit/visor and connect that to her skin color.


Well, going by visor color there would be white, yellowish, and black as well as the purple for skin colors on quarians.  Actually, it makes sense this is the case.


I'm not saying the visor is some kind of actual evidence for her skin color.  Its just circumstantial stuff.  Although if I was arguing that point, I would say that the majority of the masks are still purple, making that the likely default, and it would make sense if quarians could customize whatever part of their suit that they want.  Its their whole identity.

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sergio71785 wrote...

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Auntie Raan perhaps?


I suspect she knows, and has known for a while now. B)

Older individuals are particularly good at noticing these things, and I imagine Tali probably talked tons about her adventures with Shepard when she got back from her pilgrimage. <3

I would have d'awwwed hard if at the end of the trial, Shala'Raan would have teased Tali about going off with Shepard on another adventure.

Tali: "AUNTIE RAAN! *embarrased*"
Shepard: I knew it :wub:

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Shazzammer2 wrote...

JAKE this drawing is proving to be a real pain in the ass for me. I'm making LOADS of progress but I keep adding more to it.

I ran out of space on my paper and now I've taped at least 3 sheets to it. Originally I was just going to draw the face for you. Then I decided I would further it by drawing her body ... then Chikktika Mk 1 ...

Gah the details. Details. When its finished you better like it. :/


I'm sure I'll hate it!

Mwahahahahhahaha






I kid, I kid, I'm sure it'll be so badass my head'll explode :wizard:

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So, who do you think Tali is friends with on the normandy?



I'd say Garrus, Kasumi, Ken, Gabby and Kelly

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Alphyn wrote...

*sigh* Sergio, I need your fanfic fix.

I don't like getting angry over the internet.


Don't nerd rage, everytime you do, god kills a pornstar...


...With STDs

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Someone With Mass wrote...

You know what? I'm actually going to play the game now. All this talk about Tali's this, Tali's that, drives me nuts.

Not sure if you're trolling or joking. :huh:

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sergio71785 wrote...

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Well, I don't think that quarians can do much sun bathing while they're onboard the Migrant Fleet Image IPB


Well, how much sun they get doesn't really mean anything in regards to their skin color.

If Quarians (just an example) were meant to be dark skinned, they'd still be dark skinned even after not getting any sunlight on the Flotilla. If you got a black person for example, and put him on a spaceship for his whole life, his skin wouldn't lose its dark pigmentation. 


If Quarians skin is anything like a humans than sun would play a huge role. But lets take into effect this is the future and for all we know, if they were able to make eviro suits that could sustain life for years without being removed, then we could assume it has some sort of system to rebalance this.
Lets assume that it doesnt for now, if their skin was like the humans in any way, their skin color would vary greatly based on the amount of sun they got. Perhaps grey would be the "white" and purple the "black" it would allowd for multiple variations of colors and would please mose everybody who complains about their complections.

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Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

JAKE this drawing is proving to be a real pain in the ass for me. I'm making LOADS of progress but I keep adding more to it.

I ran out of space on my paper and now I've taped at least 3 sheets to it. Originally I was just going to draw the face for you. Then I decided I would further it by drawing her body ... then Chikktika Mk 1 ...

Gah the details. Details. When its finished you better like it. :/


I'm sure I'll hate it!

Mwahahahahhahaha






I kid, I kid, I'm sure it'll be so badass my head'll explode :wizard:


Do you have an E-mail address? I can show you what I have so far.

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JeanLuc761 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...
Auntie Raan perhaps?


I suspect she knows, and has known for a while now. B)

Older individuals are particularly good at noticing these things, and I imagine Tali probably talked tons about her adventures with Shepard when she got back from her pilgrimage. <3

I would have d'awwwed hard if at the end of the trial, Shala'Raan would have teased Tali about going off with Shepard on another adventure.

Tali: "AUNTIE RAAN! *embarrased*"
Shepard: I knew it :wub:


Already have some fanfic about that :)

#46211
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Alphyn wrote...

*sigh* Sergio, I need your fanfic fix.

I don't like getting angry over the internet.


Actually made some progress last night, but won't be ready for a while. 

There's a part where Shepard asks her how 'herbal supplements' help her, and I think I got a pretty good explanation for it down. 

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Shazzammer2 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

JAKE this drawing is proving to be a real pain in the ass for me. I'm making LOADS of progress but I keep adding more to it.

I ran out of space on my paper and now I've taped at least 3 sheets to it. Originally I was just going to draw the face for you. Then I decided I would further it by drawing her body ... then Chikktika Mk 1 ...

Gah the details. Details. When its finished you better like it. :/


I'm sure I'll hate it!

Mwahahahahhahaha






I kid, I kid, I'm sure it'll be so badass my head'll explode :wizard:


Do you have an E-mail address? I can show you what I have so far.


Jake71887@hotmail.com is my public one

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Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

JAKE this drawing is proving to be a real pain in the ass for me. I'm making LOADS of progress but I keep adding more to it.

I ran out of space on my paper and now I've taped at least 3 sheets to it. Originally I was just going to draw the face for you. Then I decided I would further it by drawing her body ... then Chikktika Mk 1 ...

Gah the details. Details. When its finished you better like it. :/


I'm sure I'll hate it!

Mwahahahahhahaha






I kid, I kid, I'm sure it'll be so badass my head'll explode :wizard:


Do you have an E-mail address? I can show you what I have so far.


Jake71887@hotmail.com is my public one


alright keep an eye out for the unfinished pic. Please don't show to anybody else :bandit:

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Jake71887@hotmail.com is my public one

Whats the private one for?;)

#46215
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Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

JAKE this drawing is proving to be a real pain in the ass for me. I'm making LOADS of progress but I keep adding more to it.

I ran out of space on my paper and now I've taped at least 3 sheets to it. Originally I was just going to draw the face for you. Then I decided I would further it by drawing her body ... then Chikktika Mk 1 ...

Gah the details. Details. When its finished you better like it. :/


I'm sure I'll hate it!

Mwahahahahhahaha






I kid, I kid, I'm sure it'll be so badass my head'll explode :wizard:


Do you have an E-mail address? I can show you what I have so far.


Jake71887@hotmail.com is my public one


jake i see that thread you made just vanished into thin air lol:ph34r:

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MrBoomba wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

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Well, I don't think that quarians can do much sun bathing while they're onboard the Migrant Fleet Image IPB


Well, how much sun they get doesn't really mean anything in regards to their skin color.

If Quarians (just an example) were meant to be dark skinned, they'd still be dark skinned even after not getting any sunlight on the Flotilla. If you got a black person for example, and put him on a spaceship for his whole life, his skin wouldn't lose its dark pigmentation. 


If Quarians skin is anything like a humans than sun would play a huge role. But lets take into effect this is the future and for all we know, if they were able to make eviro suits that could sustain life for years without being removed, then we could assume it has some sort of system to rebalance this.
Lets assume that it doesnt for now, if their skin was like the humans in any way, their skin color would vary greatly based on the amount of sun they got. Perhaps grey would be the "white" and purple the "black" it would allowd for multiple variations of colors and would please mose everybody who complains about their complections.


The explanation that I always come back to when people discuss sun affecting there appearance is this:  They are a fictional alien race in a sci fi story.  There biology is a complete mystery to us, and can be changed on a whim.  They can be any color that Bioware wants them to be, and be justified.

If you want to discuss the science, thats fine, but that truth looms over the discussion :wizard:

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sergio71785 wrote...

Alphyn wrote...

*sigh* Sergio, I need your fanfic fix.

I don't like getting angry over the internet.


Actually made some progress last night, but won't be ready for a while. 

There's a part where Shepard asks her how 'herbal supplements' help her, and I think I got a pretty good explanation for it down. 

You should seriously consider putting them on your blog/fanfiction.net account, I hate looking through all those pages/saving them in a notepad I will surely forget where I put it someday.
Besides, it would be reassuring for me to know that I haven't missed any of your brilliant pieces. ^_^
(I will definitely subscribe BTW)

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sergio71785 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Well, I don't think that quarians can do much sun bathing while they're onboard the Migrant Fleet Image IPB


Well, how much sun they get doesn't really mean anything in regards to their skin color.

If Quarians (just an example) were meant to be dark skinned, they'd still be dark skinnred even after not getting any sunlight on the Flotilla. If you got a black person for example, and put him on a spaceship for his whole life, his skin wouldn't lose its dark pigmentation. 


That is true, although he would look paler than a black man who had been exposed to the sun on a daily basis, simply because people usually aren't born with the full amount of melanin in their skin.

The only reason the quarians' skin color would change in general is if they spent millennia (rather than 300 years) aboard their ship and required sunlight to produce sufficient amounts of vitamin D to give them an edge in surviving long enough to reproduce.

But that's simply not likely. Not only do we know that the quarians have only been in the Flotilla for a few centuries (hardly long enough for any serious physical alterations to take place barring genetic engineering), but we have no reason to assume that quarians have melanin in their skins like humans or that they require sunlight to produce vitamin D or that vitamin D's even used in their bones. If all of these conditions were fulfilled, than yes, it would be reasonable to assume quarians are pale-skinned. But it is unlikely that more than a few, if any, are and we know the necessary time hasn't passed.

Modifié par Nivenus, 17 avril 2010 - 07:14 .


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sergio71785 wrote...

Alphyn wrote...

*sigh* Sergio, I need your fanfic fix.

I don't like getting angry over the internet.


Actually made some progress last night, but won't be ready for a while. 

There's a part where Shepard asks her how 'herbal supplements' help her, and I think I got a pretty good explanation for it down. 

Tease. <_<

Modifié par phonypapercut56, 17 avril 2010 - 07:15 .


#46220
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MrBoomba wrote...

If Quarians skin is anything like a humans than sun would play a huge role. But lets take into effect this is the future and for all we know, if they were able to make eviro suits that could sustain life for years without being removed, then we could assume it has some sort of system to rebalance this.
Lets assume that it doesnt for now, if their skin was like the humans in any way, their skin color would vary greatly based on the amount of sun they got. Perhaps grey would be the "white" and purple the "black" it would allowd for multiple variations of colors and would please mose everybody who complains about their complections.


Yes, the sun does impact a person's complexion. But like I said, a black person would never stop having dark skin if he got no sun. Just like a white person will never get skin as dark as a black person's, no matter how much sun he gets.

If Quarians had dark skin similar to a black person, they'd still be black now. If they were white, they'd still be white now. They'd just be a little lighter in skin tone than their pre-exile ancestors. 

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I wish you had the option of talking to your party on the "hub worlds" like you did in ME 1. You got some great comments that way. Te team also needs to talk to each other more in hub worlds. Less "adds" or NPC conversations, more party interaction.



I also firmly believe that each party member should have 6 dialogue "trees". Like so:

1.) Post story mission comments - each party member should have something unique to say after each primary mission is concluded. This should have 1-2 "branches" (so it continues past a single comment, and then be done. (the branches should allow for paragon/renegade options that adjust your party members paragon/renegade standing).

2.) Default Conversation - Should be handled like Kasumi and Zaeed. The party member gives 2-3 comments about random events in the ship or other party members. This would make the ship feel more organic and alive, since it implies that the party is interacting and using the ship like real people.

3.) Personal History - This should have 3-4 branches so you can either recap their history with you, learn their story (new people), or get a sense of how they are as a character. each "branch" of the dialogue wheel should open after you take them with you on a mission (primary or secondary). Should also contain an option (after successfully selecting the correct dialogue) to open dialogue 6.

4.) Post personal Mission - should be a 1-2 branch conversation about the party members personal mission - the after mission dialogues in ME 2 are perfect examples (and well done) of how to do this right. Should also have an option to start/continue dialogue 6.

5.) Post game/Epilogue conversation - should be a lengthy conversation(1-2 "branches", lots of "investigate" options) about what the party member will do now that it is over.

6.) Romance Dialogue - once "unlocked", should be set up as 2-3 conversations, much like the ME2 dialogues. However, since it must be deliberately chosen, there will not be any "accidental" romances. Also, it can also have different "triggers" and, as it is separate from the standard dialogue, does not preclude you becoming friends with possible LI's instead of just shutting them down.



How would all of this work? Let's take Tali as an example for ME3, using hypothetical situation that she left the Normandy on Shepard's orders to make the to get the fleet ready to deal with the Geth.



1.) Since her first "mission" dialogue is after the events when you get her back, it is the reunion conversation. If she is a romance option, it is referenced and will be available as a dialogue wheel under (3).

2.) Back in her rightful domain in engineering, she would comment about the Normandy's engine, Gabby and Ken, Jack, Garrus and you most frequently.

3.) Catching up on what happened after the collectors (comments on your romance in ME2?) and why she left the Normandy temporarily. Some more information about the flotilla, most likely. Will also allow you to rekindle or end the relationship from ME2.

4.) After resolving the Quarian/Geth issue, you get some dialogue concerning her opinion on how you resolved it.

5. And the game is done! Now you get the conversations about Rannoc (if you resolved it that way with the geth), and what the two of you will do now.

6.) If this is a continuation of ME2, then only the first dialogue would be in engineering. Te rest of the dialogue's would start after the option, "Let's continue this in our cabin". She would also have a new set of "standard" kasumi/zaeed dialogue styles as she comments on the decorations. Depending on how you progress the dialogue here will determine the epilogue.



Now, if Bioware did it like this, it would be damn near perfect IMO. I can hope, but I am not expecting this level of excellence.

#46222
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Somebody1003 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Jake71887@hotmail.com is my public one

Whats the private one for?;)


For privacy ;)

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DarkwanderStorm wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

JAKE this drawing is proving to be a real pain in the ass for me. I'm making LOADS of progress but I keep adding more to it.

I ran out of space on my paper and now I've taped at least 3 sheets to it. Originally I was just going to draw the face for you. Then I decided I would further it by drawing her body ... then Chikktika Mk 1 ...

Gah the details. Details. When its finished you better like it. :/


I'm sure I'll hate it!

Mwahahahahhahaha






I kid, I kid, I'm sure it'll be so badass my head'll explode :wizard:


Do you have an E-mail address? I can show you what I have so far.


Jake71887@hotmail.com is my public one


jake i see that thread you made just vanished into thin air lol:ph34r:


I also got a warning :wizard:

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Somebody1003 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Jake71887@hotmail.com is my public one

Whats the private one for?;)


For privacy ;)

Just what kind of privacy?;)

#46225
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sergio71785 wrote...

MrBoomba wrote...

If Quarians skin is anything like a humans than sun would play a huge role. But lets take into effect this is the future and for all we know, if they were able to make eviro suits that could sustain life for years without being removed, then we could assume it has some sort of system to rebalance this.
Lets assume that it doesnt for now, if their skin was like the humans in any way, their skin color would vary greatly based on the amount of sun they got. Perhaps grey would be the "white" and purple the "black" it would allowd for multiple variations of colors and would please mose everybody who complains about their complections.


Yes, the sun does impact a person's complexion. But like I said, a black person would never stop having dark skin if he got no sun. Just like a white person will never get skin as dark as a black person's, no matter how much sun he gets.

If Quarians had dark skin similar to a black person, they'd still be black now. If they were white, they'd still be white now. They'd just be a little lighter in skin tone than their pre-exile ancestors. 


Not to mention the age and proximity to the sun has a bearing on complexion as well... :wizard: