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[Goodwood]

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

[Deadeas]

Goodwood wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Alright, gentlemen, Tali levels are critical.

Any topics on anybody's mind?

Yeah.

Pick a new three-tone colour scheme for Tali's suit. I'm gonna go with red, white and green.

Like this?

[Collider]

Nivenus wrote...

I have a topic, though it will doubtless be a controversial one.

The most interesting characters are those who are flawed, who aren't perfect.

This a million times.

With that in mind, what is there about Tali that you don't like, and why? And no, you don't get to say her feet or that you didn't get to see her face. Or that she wasn't romanceable in ME1. A serious answer.

Things I don't like...hmm...Nothing in particular strikes me. I think she was a bit touchy when you spoke to her about reclaiming the homeworld in her loyalty mission. When you put it in perspective though, it's justifiably a touchy issue.

From my standpoint the fault of the Morning War / whatever the quarians call it (I'm spacing it for now, assuming there is a name) falls almost entirely on the quarians. Yes, the geth ended up turning genocidal and what not and I'm not saying it was justified. I'm just saying that, from my viewpoint, the quarians struck first and without provocation. And I've felt this way since before ME2 and the revelation of Legion.

I'm fairly certain that Artificial Intelligence was illegal during that time. Unless they wanted to be sanctioned against by the Council, it would make sense that they wanted to shut the Geth down and assess the situation. Essentially, they were shutting down faulty hardware. There was no malice on their part. I don't think you can say the Quarians were at fault. At most, it was their government. But I don't see the Quarians as the evil ones nor do I see the Geth as the evil ones.

I don't begrudge Tali for her opinion of AI. For all the Quarians know (aside from Tali when you recruit Legion and do his loyalty mission) the Geth are bloodthirsty and hate all organics. That's all they've ever known since the morning war. It's not comparable to racism - because we know there are individuals within human races and alien races. Within the Geth, there is little to no individuality compared to aliens. As it's fairly clear that the Geth universally tried to slaughter the Quarians in the war, I am not surprised most Quarians view the Geth with animosity. For all they know, the Geth were programmed to be violent.

Which makes me really glad that I was able to paragon my way out of the Legion/Tali fight. If I'd been honest (and I'm not sure I would have been) I would have sided with Legion.

Being honest myself, I would have to side with Tali. I know Legion is basically a child, but it's not right for him to intrude and hack her personal property. The least he could have done is ask - and he clearly did not.

Modifié par Collider, 18 avril 2010 - 06:42 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

chool77 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

*Tali and Shepard in gettin' busy in the comm room, on top of the table*

Tali: Shepard, wait--stop for a minute... Is the table dropping? And why are the lights dimming?

Shepard: OH SH!1! We gotta get outta here, NOW!

illusive man: shepard... glad your here so we can get  down to---shepard why are you naked?

shepard: what:?... never seen a man naked?...

illusive man:... and i guess thats you mask over there too<_<

shepard:... um before we keep talking... um check out these vids of these new, more advanced model Geth troopers!

And that was the Start of TIM's drinking problem

[Lividity Jones]

sergio71785 wrote...

I really can't think of anything in particular I don't like about Tali. She has flaws, but her flaws don't negatively appeal to me.

For example, her initial nervousness in regards to a relationship with Shepard would technically be a 'flaw', but I like it.

Agreed. Was going to mention how her selfless nature seems to force her to think little of her own achievements and merits, but saw this as humility. Not a flaw.

Modifié par Lividity Jones, 18 avril 2010 - 06:47 .

[Goodwood]

Deadeas wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Alright, gentlemen, Tali levels are critical.

Any topics on anybody's mind?

Yeah.

Pick a new three-tone colour scheme for Tali's suit. I'm gonna go with red, white and green.

Like this?

Nii-iii-iiice!

[Deadeas]

Goodwood wrote...

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

Agreed on the voice problems. I fought my way through one male playthrough to romance Tali, and haven't played another since.

[chool77]

Deadeas wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

Agreed on the voice problems. I fought my way through one male playthrough to romance Tali, and haven't played another since.

... you like fem shep

gawd she is horrible

[Goodwood]

chool77 wrote...

Deadeas wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

Agreed on the voice problems. I fought my way through one male playthrough to romance Tali, and haven't played another since.

... you like fem shep

gawd she is horrible

You mean you haven't yet looked at my sig?

I'm shocked. I really am.

[Shazzammer2]

Leaving for a couple of hours. Photo shopping.

[chool77]

runescapeguy9 wrote...

Agreed with Chool, but in a more respectful and grammar appropriate way.

yyeaa?.... oh... my bad lol

[FatherNestor]

chool77 wrote...

Deadeas wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

Agreed on the voice problems. I fought my way through one male playthrough to romance Tali, and haven't played another since.

... you like fem shep

gawd she is horrible

No.

[Deadeas]

Goodwood wrote...

chool77 wrote...

Deadeas wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

Agreed on the voice problems. I fought my way through one male playthrough to romance Tali, and haven't played another since.

... you like fem shep

gawd she is horrible

You mean you haven't yet looked at my sig?

I'm shocked. I really am.

Think he meant me. Never declared my preference for FemShep before here.

[Collider]

For the record, Nivenus, I think Tali's character has flaws and I love that. It adds, well, character, to her. It's harder for me to say what I don't like about her, because there's really nothing in particular. I consider the most important measure of a person to be their morality - if they are a good person, that's what matters most. Tali is the most paragon member of the squad, unless you count Legion who is more neutral in my opinion. Tali being "paragon" is really great considering you're working with a shady organization. Miranda is way too linked to Cerberus for my liking romance wise (and I can't forget how she dealed with Nikhet and her "you were a mistake" line to Jack), and Jack feels too violent and immature, the former of which has to do with morality. So Tali really shines in that aspect, but she's also intelligent.

[Goat_Shepard]

Goodwood wrote...

chool77 wrote...

Deadeas wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

Agreed on the voice problems. I fought my way through one male playthrough to romance Tali, and haven't played another since.

... you like fem shep

gawd she is horrible

You mean you haven't yet looked at my sig?

I'm shocked. I really am.

Yes, I find it interesting you feel the need to support yourself Or Jane Shep in particular. Isn't already implied we support the main character?

[chool77]

Goodwood wrote...

chool77 wrote...

Deadeas wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Full disclosure: the only reason why I haven't Talimanced is due to DudeShep's Force-awful voice acting.

Agreed on the voice problems. I fought my way through one male playthrough to romance Tali, and haven't played another since.

... you like fem shep

gawd she is horrible

You mean you haven't yet looked at my sig?

I'm shocked. I really am.

let me put it like this

if my male shep ran into fem shep.. he would kick her into the sun..

lol^_^

[Strawberry Kiwi]

Goodwood wrote...

You mean you haven't yet looked at my sig?

I'm shocked. I really am.

TBH, I'm gonna have to go with chool on this one.
Jennifer Hale is unbearibly monotonous as Shepard. Moreso than Meer, IMO.

[Nivenus]

Collider wrote...

I'm fairly certain that Artificial Intelligence was illegal during that time. Unless they wanted to be sanctioned against by the Council, it would make sense that they wanted to shut the Geth down and assess the situation. Essentially, they were shutting down faulty hardware. There was no malice on their part. I don't think you can say the Quarians were at fault. At most, it was their government. But I don't see the Quarians as the evil ones nor do I see the Geth as the evil ones.

I don't begrudge Tali for her opinion of AI. For all the Quarians know (aside from Tali when you recruit Legion and do his loyalty mission) the Geth are bloodthirsty and hate all organics. That's all they've ever known since the morning war. It's not comparable to racism - because we know there are individuals within human races and alien races. Within the Geth, there is little to no individuality compared to aliens. As it's fairly clear that the Geth universally tried to slaughter the Quarians in the war, I am not surprised most Quarians view the Geth with animosity. For all they know, the Geth were programmed to be violent.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that the quarians, a race were evil. But I do feel that, insofar as either can be considered to have the moral high ground (and as you say, the geth are hardly innocent), the geth would have it. But I also feel that what the geth did to the quarians was a crime, so I'm not trying to say that I feel as though the quarians should have been driven into exile or to near extinction. I'm simply saying that I don't accept Tali's (or quarians at large's) rationalization.

Collider wrote...

Being honest myself, I would have to side with Tali. I know Legion is basically a child, but it's not right for him to intrude and hack her personal property. The least he could have done is ask - and he clearly did not.

Point. I'd kind of forgotten about that and assumed it was from the ship's files, rather than Tali's personal files, but I believe that you actually are right. Even so, while I can't condone his hacking through her files and I may have still sided with Tali to prevent a war that would likely resulted in the deaths of many quarians, my sympathies were largely with Legion and the geth at that moment.

[chool77]

hey sergio... need more mini fanfic's i am enjoying this back and forth lol

[Collider]

I thought Meer did a fantastic job in Tali's romance. Phenomenal. The only outlier was his line before the suicide mission with Tali...that was badly written and badly voiced. Other than that, it was great and felt genuine.

[chool77]

Strawberry Kiwi wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

You mean you haven't yet looked at my sig?

I'm shocked. I really am.

TBH, I'm gonna have to go with chool on this one.
Jennifer Hale is unbearibly monotonous as Shepard. Moreso than Meer, IMO.

bro fist!

[sergio71785]

TIM: Shepard I've been meaning to---why are you naked?

Shepard: Uh... well.... Alright, look man, don't question my methods. All that matters is that I get the job done. Maybe walking around naked helps me formulate strategies better. Ever thought of that? Maybe not wearing any clothes helps me relieve stress. The important thing is that I get the job done; don't worry how I do it. 

TIM: Well, I suppose I shouldn't doubt your---

*Tali suddenly sneezes* 

TIM: What was that?

*Shepard face-palms*

TIM: Hm... I see.  I'll call you back in ten minutes. 

[chool77]

Collider wrote...

I thought Meer did a fantastic job in Tali's romance. Phenomenal. The only outlier was his line before the suicide mission with Tali...that was badly written and badly voiced. Other than that, it was great and felt genuine.

could not have said it better myself