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[Someone With Mass]

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

Well, the only reason Tali and Garrus are possible LI in ME2 is because the fans wanted it. I don't think Bioware would just ignore that.

And it would go against everything the founders said in the interviews. That they listen to the fans and all that.

[Someone With Mass]

But I don't think that Tali will pull a Liara on us in ME3. She has almost no motivation for it.

[Phil725]

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

I don't see it.  Bioware does care what its fans think.  If for nothing else than the fact that their name is their best selling point.  From a company standpoint, they could put crap in a box, put Bioware on it, and it would sell.  You start screwing those fans over, and suddenly you lose that.

Trilogies and video games don't lend themselves to sad endings as much as movies and books.  The player is Shepard, and the characters are our friends after 3 games, no one wants them to die.  I'm sure you'll be able to screw up and get people killed like in ME2, but I would be very surprised if there is no possible happy ending.

[SPARTANMST]

Savakka1 wrote...

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

There is probably room for "happy ending"  for Shepard, but it involves doing something evil.

I hope there will be, it would make sense for a final happy ending but you are right, great sacrifices will have to be made in order for it to happen, for some reason I think that the ending is going to involve shepard smashing the normandy in Harbinger in order to stop the reaper threat, sacrificing himself in the process, however I do think that after all the s**t that shepard has been through he deserves a happy ending with Tali

[Savakka1]

Someone With Mass wrote...

But I don't think that Tali will pull a Liara on us in ME3. She has almost no motivation for it.

Bioware would recive few thousand heated messeges for that, maybe something more. I don`t think they want to risk it.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Phil725 wrote...

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

I don't see it.  Bioware does care what its fans think.  If for nothing else than the fact that their name is their best selling point.  From a company standpoint, they could put crap in a box, put Bioware on it, and it would sell.  You start screwing those fans over, and suddenly you lose that.

Trilogies and video games don't lend themselves to sad endings as much as movies and books.  The player is Shepard, and the characters are our friends after 3 games, no one wants them to die.  I'm sure you'll be able to screw up and get people killed like in ME2, but I would be very surprised if there is no possible happy ending.

Preferably it would have multiple endings based on your actions.  I just hope they don't pull the epilogue **** with DA:O, DA:A and Baldur's Gate because those you have no control over in any way.

[SPARTANMST]

Phil725 wrote...

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

I don't see it.  Bioware does care what its fans think.  If for nothing else than the fact that their name is their best selling point.  From a company standpoint, they could put crap in a box, put Bioware on it, and it would sell.  You start screwing those fans over, and suddenly you lose that.

Trilogies and video games don't lend themselves to sad endings as much as movies and books.  The player is Shepard, and the characters are our friends after 3 games, no one wants them to die.  I'm sure you'll be able to screw up and get people killed like in ME2, but I would be very surprised if there is no possible happy ending.

Yeah I suppose so, I mean ur right we are all really connected with the characters now especially Garrus and Tali it would be pretty bad to have a #suicide ending' these things are good for mid story games like ME2 but for the ending I think your probably right there will be possibility of a happy ending, it will just involve some difficult chioces, hopefully non ethat will put Tali in danger!

[Phil725]

Savakka1 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
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Well I'm actually not worried at all about the characters returning.  They don't have the time to develop a new team in ME3, and they can do that without any effort by bringing back the old squad.

I'm sure the characters will stay the same for the most part, I just hope they put a little effort in when their should be a change, like Tali's feelings for you if you romaned her, or Jack's change if you romanced her.

I just hope ME2 LI`s don`t recive some insulting cameo role in ME3, like what happened to ME1 LI`s in ME2. They really should have a big role in ME3.

The developer reasoning for that was so that Ashley/Liara were guaranteed to play a role in ME3.  It would be rather pointless if they saved your ME2 romances for a non-existant later sequel.

The big role is what I'm wondering.  ME3 could pull off a pretty convincing relationship, starting the game with one already in place, and growing.  But only if they choose to pursue it.  If they put as much effort into the romance as ME1's, a lot of people will be unhappy.

[Savakka1]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

I don't see it.  Bioware does care what its fans think.  If for nothing else than the fact that their name is their best selling point.  From a company standpoint, they could put crap in a box, put Bioware on it, and it would sell.  You start screwing those fans over, and suddenly you lose that.

Trilogies and video games don't lend themselves to sad endings as much as movies and books.  The player is Shepard, and the characters are our friends after 3 games, no one wants them to die.  I'm sure you'll be able to screw up and get people killed like in ME2, but I would be very surprised if there is no possible happy ending.

Preferably it would have multiple endings based on your actions.  I just hope they don't pull the epilogue **** with DA:O, DA:A and Baldur's Gate because those you have no control over in any way.

Yeah, we definetly need an epilogue. Or some MGS type 1 hour long cutscene at the end.

[Someone With Mass]

The best good way I could see it end would be if they somehow stopped the Reaper fleet, peace between the quarians and the geth and Tali and Shepard would be together until one of them dies of old age. Wishful thinking, I know...

[SPARTANMST]

Someone With Mass wrote...

The best good way I could see it end would be if they somehow stopped the Reaper fleet, peace between the quarians and the geth and Tali and Shepard would be together until one of them dies of old age. Wishful thinking, I know...

hehe that would be the perfect ending though

[Phil725]

Someone With Mass wrote...

But I don't think that Tali will pull a Liara on us in ME3. She has almost no motivation for it.

Well, to be fair, Liara had absolutely no motivation for leaving us in ME2, didn't stop them from assassinating her character

But your right, an explanation of why Tali would leave the Normandy, especially on a file where she was exiled and romanced, would have to be so bad and unbelievable, that I'm not sure anyone could sign off on putting it in the game.

[Savakka1]

SPARTANMST wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The best good way I could see it end would be if they somehow stopped the Reaper fleet, peace between the quarians and the geth and Tali and Shepard would be together until one of them dies of old age. Wishful thinking, I know...

hehe that would be the perfect ending though

Keeping my fingers crossed. It would definetly suck if those well written and portrayed charecters with very deep personality would just die in the end.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Savakka1 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

I don't see it.  Bioware does care what its fans think.  If for nothing else than the fact that their name is their best selling point.  From a company standpoint, they could put crap in a box, put Bioware on it, and it would sell.  You start screwing those fans over, and suddenly you lose that.

Trilogies and video games don't lend themselves to sad endings as much as movies and books.  The player is Shepard, and the characters are our friends after 3 games, no one wants them to die.  I'm sure you'll be able to screw up and get people killed like in ME2, but I would be very surprised if there is no possible happy ending.

Preferably it would have multiple endings based on your actions.  I just hope they don't pull the epilogue **** with DA:O, DA:A and Baldur's Gate because those you have no control over in any way.

Yeah, we definetly need an epilogue. Or some MGS type 1 hour long cutscene at the end.

A long cutscene wouldn't be bad.  And how MGS4 handled it detailing the immediate future was handled very well.  I just hope that there isn't a Debriefing that manages to contradict the entire storyline LOL

[Phil725]

Someone With Mass wrote...

The best good way I could see it end would be if they somehow stopped the Reaper fleet, peace between the quarians and the geth and Tali and Shepard would be together until one of them dies of old age. Wishful thinking, I know...

Well, I can't see us seeing the death part, but I see that as a pretty reasonable expectation of the ending.  No reason we can't save the galaxy, then build Tali a house on Rannoch

[SPARTANMST]

Phil725 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

But I don't think that Tali will pull a Liara on us in ME3. She has almost no motivation for it.

Well, to be fair, Liara had absolutely no motivation for leaving us in ME2, didn't stop them from assassinating her character

But your right, an explanation of why Tali would leave the Normandy, especially on a file where she was exiled and romanced, would have to be so bad and unbelievable, that I'm not sure anyone could sign off on putting it in the game.

well she's not allways exiled... so its possible, but remember shepard was dead for 2 years thats whay Liara moved on. Tali hadn't though Tali has and allways will be in love with Shepard it makes sense that she will reappear as a LI and a squad mate in ME3

[Savakka1]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Savakka1 wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

SPARTANMST wrote...

I think that the ending to ME3 will be a depressing one or at least one that involves sacrificing a member of the crew or sacrificing yourself to save the galaxy, we know what Bioware is like, personally I don't thein k they are bothered whether their fans will hate the outcome, game development is a dictatorship after all, they will do what THEY want.
Its a sad truth I know, and I hope that the LI thing does remain through the 3rd game and end well but the chances of that hapening in a Bioware game are slim. lets hope I am proved wrong.

I don't see it.  Bioware does care what its fans think.  If for nothing else than the fact that their name is their best selling point.  From a company standpoint, they could put crap in a box, put Bioware on it, and it would sell.  You start screwing those fans over, and suddenly you lose that.

Trilogies and video games don't lend themselves to sad endings as much as movies and books.  The player is Shepard, and the characters are our friends after 3 games, no one wants them to die.  I'm sure you'll be able to screw up and get people killed like in ME2, but I would be very surprised if there is no possible happy ending.

Preferably it would have multiple endings based on your actions.  I just hope they don't pull the epilogue **** with DA:O, DA:A and Baldur's Gate because those you have no control over in any way.

Yeah, we definetly need an epilogue. Or some MGS type 1 hour long cutscene at the end.

A long cutscene wouldn't be bad.  And how MGS4 handled it detailing the immediate future was handled very well.  I just hope that there isn't a Debriefing that manages to contradict the entire storyline LOL

Yeah, but I was pretty tired after MGS4 final cutscene, but it was good anyway.

[Someone With Mass]

I just hope that we don't have to do a suicide run.



I can find it acceptable if some people died ( Not Tali OFC), but it would just be silly if the good ending would be that Shepard tries to sacrifice him/herself to save everyone. And incredibly cliché.

[SPARTANMST]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I just hope that we don't have to do a suicide run.

I can find it acceptable if some people died ( Not Tali OFC), but it would just be silly if the good ending would be that Shepard tries to sacrifice him/herself to save everyone. And incredibly cliché.

I think that would be a good ending, not one I want but it would make sense, I really hope that isn't the ending but I wouldn't mind it being AN ending, one of many, that really would make Shepard the ultimate hero, but like I sadi it would be nice to have a range of 3-4 endings

[Savakka1]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I just hope that we don't have to do a suicide run.

I can find it acceptable if some people died ( Not Tali OFC), but it would just be silly if the good ending would be that Shepard tries to sacrifice him/herself to save everyone. And incredibly cliché.

It would just give me an empty feeling: "All those great, deep charecters are all dead now?" That would suck.

[Phil725]

SPARTANMST wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

But I don't think that Tali will pull a Liara on us in ME3. She has almost no motivation for it.

Well, to be fair, Liara had absolutely no motivation for leaving us in ME2, didn't stop them from assassinating her character

But your right, an explanation of why Tali would leave the Normandy, especially on a file where she was exiled and romanced, would have to be so bad and unbelievable, that I'm not sure anyone could sign off on putting it in the game.

well she's not allways exiled... so its possible, but remember shepard was dead for 2 years thats whay Liara moved on. Tali hadn't though Tali has and allways will be in love with Shepard it makes sense that she will reappear as a LI and a squad mate in ME3

Yeah, but we can be almost certain that our actions in ME2 won't effect the plot in ME3.  Tali either being a squad mate, or not, based on an ME2 decision is a huge change.  So if they can't explain her being off the team in all situations, they'll bring her back.

And character assassination just refers to a random 180, usually unexplainable in a specific character.  Liara's flip from a shy wall flower scientist to a psychotic grudge holding idiot was just that.  Regardless of whether you can personally justify it or not looking back.

[Phil725]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I just hope that we don't have to do a suicide run.

I can find it acceptable if some people died ( Not Tali OFC), but it would just be silly if the good ending would be that Shepard tries to sacrifice him/herself to save everyone. And incredibly cliché.

Cliche, and unpopular.  What's their motivation for it again?

There are two reasons for an ending like that.  You want your story to have a sad undertone, or you aren't a good enough writer to be able to come up with a convincingly heart pulling story without cheaply resorting to killing characters.  As I said before, Bioware won't be aiming for a sad story, and they are good enough writers to come up with sadness elsewhere.

Also, don't you think they'll want to make money off expansions?  Good luck with that with Shep dead.

[SPARTANMST]

Savakka1 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I just hope that we don't have to do a suicide run.

I can find it acceptable if some people died ( Not Tali OFC), but it would just be silly if the good ending would be that Shepard tries to sacrifice him/herself to save everyone. And incredibly cliché.

It would just give me an empty feeling: "All those great, deep charecters are all dead now?" That would suck.

Yeah a lot of us would get that, I just played through the Suicide mission on ME2 for a 3rd ime and I lost Grunt and Jack, that made me feel sick (not as sick as loosing Tali of course) I don't care about jack but I like Grunt, the characters are all very deep and life like whether we hate em or not its sad to see em die, a final ending where they al die would be unbearable
if that is to be the case however they had better make sure that there is yet another kick ass soundtrack to go along with it:)

[Someone With Mass]

I just hope they don't hold anything back because of a dead line, or technical issues. That would blow.



I can live with three discs, as long as I get a satisfying ending.

[Savakka1]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I just hope they don't hold anything back because of a dead line, or technical issues. That would blow.

I can live with three discs, as long as I get a satisfying ending.

Three discs?