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[NuclearBuddha]

sergio71785 wrote...
I don't have one off the bat. Just youtube for "legion tali all responses" or something like that.

He says something like "After old machines are defeated, creators will answer for their crimes against our people" (something like that)

Wanting someone to "answer" denotes he wants "justice", which has no place in cold, robotic logic. 

Cold robotic logic probably wouldn't frame it that way, either.  You know, since it takes two to have a genocidal war.  That's actually a very chilling thing to say.

[Ghoul]

sergio71785 wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

I saw a video once of siding with Tali in her confrontation with Legion.

It was interesting. You can genuinely tell Legion was... angry. He even makes a threat against quarians. 

Always Upper Left Blue my way out.

Link?

I don't have one off the bat. Just youtube for "legion tali all responses" or something like that.

He says something like "After old machines are defeated, creators will answer for their crimes against our people" (something like that)

Wanting someone to "answer" denotes he wants "justice", which has no place in cold, robotic logic. 

Here's a link. 'In favour of Tali' starts at 3:20.

[Goat_Shepard]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I saw a video once of siding with Tali in her confrontation with Legion.

It was interesting. You can genuinely tell Legion was... angry. He even makes a threat against quarians. 

Huh.  That ain't cool.  Glad I've never seen that; it would really color my perception of it.

Apparently after you side with Tali and Legion becomes unloyal, you can talk to Legion afterwards and tell him you were lying about siding with Tali, and he becomes loyal again.

So basically you can be a total douchebag

[Timey254]

Lividity Jones wrote...

Simon9one wrote...

Azint wrote...

DrathanGervaise wrote...

Legion seems genuinely apologetic for what happened in The Morning War.

My two cents.

Legion is such a swell guy.

Legion shows a more human side to the geth.  He has emotions, although he tries to hide them as best he can.
But he is unique.  It's unknown whether other geth are anything like him.

Indeed. Any creature with emotion would show regret for actions taken in the Morning War. Will have to see if geth collective share the same emotions.

To get philosophical: I think a certain degree of emotions is required for artificial intelligence. e.g. A message is made of 20% information and 80% personal Interpretation...
e.g: if we say "great" it can be either "great" or sarcastic for "sh*t", only the Interpretation of the tone and situation the word was used makes the difference.

Just my two cents.

[Simon9one]

Azint wrote...

Gust4v wrote...

*snip*

That seems to be a pretty risky thing to do, considering her mask may break.

Her mask can be shot multiple times without breaking.
I think she's good.

[SPARTANMST]

Azint wrote...

Gust4v wrote...

*snip*

That seems to be a pretty risky thing to do, considering her mask may break.

lol good point she could die from that, oh well at least we'll see her face... wait.. what am i saying, Tali can't die!

[NuclearBuddha]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I saw a video once of siding with Tali in her confrontation with Legion.

It was interesting. You can genuinely tell Legion was... angry. He even makes a threat against quarians. 

Huh.  That ain't cool.  Glad I've never seen that; it would really color my perception of it.

Apparently after you side with Tali and Legion becomes unloyal, you can talk to Legion afterwards and tell him you were lying about siding with Tali, and he becomes loyal again.

So basically you can be a total douchebag

Renegade Shep being a cockbag is not news at all.

[the red boon]

Tali is a creeper, watching all my movements.

[Katharr]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Katharr wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Katharr wrote...
You just proved yourself an idiot once more, better do your research next time.
In KoTOR there's a planet named Katarr not a race and you can see the difference, And i use this nickname since 1991 when i created it during a PnP session of "The Dark Eye"

How is TDE?  I've heard of it, but never anything specific.

I loved it back those days and we were a nice group of friends playing, later we changed to Shadowrun. But i still love the old TDE times and i love the Drakensang games which use the TDE lore.

I ran an extremely long Earthdawn game, myself.

We played Earthdawn too for quite a time, i even own the novelles based on that game.

Modifié par Katharr, 18 avril 2010 - 08:54 .

[Kikaimegami]

sergio71785 wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

I'd be angry too if someone was doing weapons testing on my people.

Not if you're a robot, with no supposed emotions. 

He's been disconnected from the geth for two years. He's evolving in isolation. You can tell he has respect for Shepard and feels something he can't articulate. There's also plenty of instances where he has an emotional response to something. I think it's like someone said earlier: he's beginning to have emotions, but doesn't know what to do with them.

[Phil725]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I saw a video once of siding with Tali in her confrontation with Legion.

It was interesting. You can genuinely tell Legion was... angry. He even makes a threat against quarians. 

Huh.  That ain't cool.  Glad I've never seen that; it would really color my perception of it.

Apparently after you side with Tali and Legion becomes unloyal, you can talk to Legion afterwards and tell him you were lying about siding with Tali, and he becomes loyal again.

So basically you can be a total douchebag

This confrontation is actually the worst part about being renegade.  I can either side with Tali, and then tell Legion I'm lying, or threaten to crush them both under my boot or something with the intimidate option.

I always just side with Tali and lie to Legion.  No way could I bring myself to threaten my Tali

[SirEmilCrane]

Gust4v wrote...

I'm suprised someone hasn't done this sooner, we need more Tali renegade interrupts

[NuclearBuddha]

Katharr wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Katharr wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Katharr wrote...
You just proved yourself an idiot once more, better do your research next time.
In KoTOR there's a planet named Katarr not a race and you can see the difference, And i use this nickname since 1991 when i created it during a PnP session of "The Dark Eye"

How is TDE?  I've heard of it, but never anything specific.

I loved it back those days and we were a nice group of friends playing, later we changed to Shadowrun. But i still love the old TDE times and i love the Drakensang games which use the TDE lore.

I ran an extremely long Earthdawn game, myself.

We played Earthdown too for quite a time, i even own the novelles based on that game.

See, now you're just taunting me.  Those weren't ever translated into English, AFAIK.

[Lividity Jones]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I don't have one off the bat. Just youtube for "legion tali all responses" or something like that.

He says something like "After old machines are defeated, creators will answer for their crimes against our people" (something like that)

Wanting someone to "answer" denotes he wants "justice", which has no place in cold, robotic logic. 

Cold robotic logic probably wouldn't frame it that way, either.  You know, since it takes two to have a genocidal war.  That's actually a very chilling thing to say.

So if Legion were to rejoin the Geth collective, couldn't his newfound "emotions" destabilize the geth?

[Ormagodenator]

SU37 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Now I don't normally use phrases like this, but I will make an exception only because it is so true:

Liberty Prime is the sh!t.

I was sad when he got blown up. Curse the Enclave...

so glad I destroyed that mobile base thing

[NuclearBuddha]

the red boon wrote...

Tali is a creeper, watching all my movements.

Your post is kinda fail, but I approve of your sig.

[Gust4v]

Azint wrote...

That seems to be a pretty risky thing to do, considering her mask may break.

Yeah, but she'll do almost anything for Shepard.

[SPARTANMST]

Phil725 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I saw a video once of siding with Tali in her confrontation with Legion.

It was interesting. You can genuinely tell Legion was... angry. He even makes a threat against quarians. 

Huh.  That ain't cool.  Glad I've never seen that; it would really color my perception of it.

Apparently after you side with Tali and Legion becomes unloyal, you can talk to Legion afterwards and tell him you were lying about siding with Tali, and he becomes loyal again.

So basically you can be a total douchebag

This confrontation is actually the worst part about being renegade.  I can either side with Tali, and then tell Legion I'm lying, or threaten to crush them both under my boot or something with the intimidate option.

I always just side with Tali and lie to Legion.  No way could I bring myself to threaten my Tali

yeah she's to sweet to even thin kabout hurting

[Katharr]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Katharr wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Katharr wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Katharr wrote...
You just proved yourself an idiot once more, better do your research next time.
In KoTOR there's a planet named Katarr not a race and you can see the difference, And i use this nickname since 1991 when i created it during a PnP session of "The Dark Eye"

How is TDE?  I've heard of it, but never anything specific.

I loved it back those days and we were a nice group of friends playing, later we changed to Shadowrun. But i still love the old TDE times and i love the Drakensang games which use the TDE lore.

I ran an extremely long Earthdawn game, myself.

We played Earthdown too for quite a time, i even own the novelles based on that game.

See, now you're just taunting me.  Those weren't ever translated into English, AFAIK.

You're kidding, right? Mine say they're translated from american.

[Kikaimegami]

Phil725 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I saw a video once of siding with Tali in her confrontation with Legion.

It was interesting. You can genuinely tell Legion was... angry. He even makes a threat against quarians. 

Huh.  That ain't cool.  Glad I've never seen that; it would really color my perception of it.

Apparently after you side with Tali and Legion becomes unloyal, you can talk to Legion afterwards and tell him you were lying about siding with Tali, and he becomes loyal again.

So basically you can be a total douchebag

This confrontation is actually the worst part about being renegade.  I can either side with Tali, and then tell Legion I'm lying, or threaten to crush them both under my boot or something with the intimidate option.

I always just side with Tali and lie to Legion.  No way could I bring myself to threaten my Tali

I always go paragon and get both of them to listen to reason.

[Goat_Shepard]

Phil725 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I saw a video once of siding with Tali in her confrontation with Legion.

It was interesting. You can genuinely tell Legion was... angry. He even makes a threat against quarians. 

Huh.  That ain't cool.  Glad I've never seen that; it would really color my perception of it.

Apparently after you side with Tali and Legion becomes unloyal, you can talk to Legion afterwards and tell him you were lying about siding with Tali, and he becomes loyal again.

So basically you can be a total douchebag

This confrontation is actually the worst part about being renegade.  I can either side with Tali, and then tell Legion I'm lying, or threaten to crush them both under my boot or something with the intimidate option.

I always just side with Tali and lie to Legion.  No way could I bring myself to threaten my Tali

That's awful. I'm playing a renegade and I'm dreading that confrontation now! Maybe if I be the ultimate Paragade...yeah that's it...I can't believe you did it and are ok with doing it. I'd ask Tali to shiv me in the back when I wasn't looking afterwards

the red boon wrote...

Tali is a creeper, watching all my  movements.

Mmm, Kelly too. And KASUMI! Kasumi's the  worst!

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 18 avril 2010 - 08:57 .

[NuclearBuddha]

Lividity Jones wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
I don't have one off the bat. Just youtube for "legion tali all responses" or something like that.

He says something like "After old machines are defeated, creators will answer for their crimes against our people" (something like that)

Wanting someone to "answer" denotes he wants "justice", which has no place in cold, robotic logic. 

Cold robotic logic probably wouldn't frame it that way, either.  You know, since it takes two to have a genocidal war.  That's actually a very chilling thing to say.

So if Legion were to rejoin the Geth collective, couldn't his newfound "emotions" destabilize the geth?

It is a risk, I believe (though it could just be a drop in the ocean of geth).  Hell, I think making the heretics rejoin was risky as hell.  I mean, the heretics figured out deceit on their own!