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[SPARTANMST]

sergio71785 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Not at all, but they need to make peace and if there is not peace option and I have to pick a side, I am picking the Geth. The Geth where wronged more then the Quarians where.

Whenever I see someone express this view, I automatically know I can't really take their point seriously on the subject, and I'll demonstrate why:

Someone puts a geth in front of you, and a (suitless) quarian. They give you a gun, and they tell you must shoot one. The geth's memories will not be backed up.

You look at the geth. He looks back at you, his optic glowing brightly, showing zero emotion or fear or appreciation for his life. Maybe he makes a few clicking sounds. 

Then you look at the quarian. Her face is painted with terror, her breathing is loud and completely unsteady. Her eyes are wet with infant tears. She's trembling in fear. 

If you tell me you'd rather shoot the quarian than the geth, you're either a liar or not entirely sane. 

ye especially if that Quarian were Tali, makes me sad just thinking about it

[sergio71785]

Azint wrote...

But the problem is the quarian wants to kill the geth, too. It's xenophobia, but it's true.

Holy crap, how many times must I say this.

Quarians don't want war, they want a homeworld. The ones in favor of war feel that it's the only way to get their homeworld back. In 300 years, the geth have never once let themselves be open to any kind of communication or negotiation. 

The whole issue isn't about hate, it's about lack of communication. 

99.9% of all Quarians will choose "Homeworld + Geth peace" over "Homeworld + Geth war"

[Someone With Mass]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Azint wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

Whenever I see someone express this view, I automatically know I can't really take their point seriously on the subject, and I'll demonstrate why:

Someone puts a geth in front of you, and a (suitless) quarian. They give you a gun, and they tell you must shoot one. The geth's memories will not be backed up.

You look at the geth. He looks back at you, his optic glowing brightly, showing zero emotion or fear or appreciation for his life. Maybe he makes a few clicking sounds. 

Then you look at the quarian. Her face is painted with terror, her breathing is loud and completely unsteady. Her eyes are wet with infant tears. She's trembling in fear. 

If you tell me you'd rather shoot the quarian than the geth, you're either a liar or not entirely sane. 

But the problem is the quarian wants to kill the geth, too. It's xenophobia, but it's true.

So you'd rather shoot a person over a piece of software?

That's not even a choice. That would be like pawning you firstborn for an iPad.

[Kami102]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Not at all, but they need to make peace and if there is not peace option and I have to pick a side, I am picking the Geth. The Geth where wronged more then the Quarians where.

Whenever I see someone express this view, I automatically know I can't really take their point seriously on the subject, and I'll demonstrate why:

Someone puts a geth in front of you, and a (suitless) quarian. They give you a gun, and they tell you must shoot one. The geth's memories will not be backed up.

You look at the geth. He looks back at you, his optic glowing brightly, showing zero emotion or fear or appreciation for his life. Maybe he makes a few clicking sounds. 

Then you look at the quarian. Her face is painted with terror, her breathing is loud and completely unsteady. Her eyes are wet with infant tears. She's trembling in fear. 

If you tell me you'd rather shoot the quarian than the geth, you're either a liar or not entirely sane. 

Exactly. They have emotions (or at least Legion does), but they can't FEEL anything. It's hard to explain. Like Legion says, they understand what pain is, but they can't feel it.

Do geth even bleed? They murdered a billion quarians, women and children, and you dare feel sympathy for the machine?

Deth To the Geth!



Naw, but in that case I would definitely chose an organic life over a replacable synthetic life.

[Kikaimegami]

They bleed this weird, white stuff. Probably a lubricant of some kind.

[LambdaNamNam]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Shepard is a friggin legend, man. He's the perfect person to go to. Plus he's always open to new ideas, work with aliens, etc.

That's a weak argument.

[kraidy1117]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Not at all, but they need to make peace and if there is not peace option and I have to pick a side, I am picking the Geth. The Geth where wronged more then the Quarians where.

Whenever I see someone express this view, I automatically know I can't really take their point seriously on the subject, and I'll demonstrate why:

Someone puts a geth in front of you, and a (suitless) quarian. They give you a gun, and they tell you must shoot one. The geth's memories will not be backed up.

You look at the geth. He looks back at you, his optic glowing brightly, showing zero emotion or fear or appreciation for his life. Maybe he makes a few clicking sounds. 

Then you look at the quarian. Her face is painted with terror, her breathing is loud and completely unsteady. Her eyes are wet with infant tears. She's trembling in fear. 

If you tell me you'd rather shoot the quarian than the geth, you're either a liar or not entirely sane. 

Exactly. They have emotions (or at least Legion does), but they can't FEEL anything. It's hard to explain. Like Legion says, they understand what pain is, but they can't feel it.

Do geth even bleed? They murdered a billion quarians, women and children, and you dare feel sympathy for the machine?

Yes they bleed and they defended them self, Geth did not cause the war, the Quarians caused the war. Innocnets die in war.

[Bloodhuman1]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

You know what, f*ck you guys.

I'm going to go play Fallout 3.

Good luck, don't go to Vault 106 to experience the results that just happened here.

[SirEmilCrane]

kraidy1117 wrote...


Call me wierd but i find Geth adorable up close and would most likey shoot the Quarian because I like there flashlight head.............................................

The Geth where created for slave labor, they where getting smarter and the Quarians decided to kill them all, this turned into a war and the Geths protected them self. Pushing them out of the system for there safety. The Geth then stayed in the system, not bugging anyone.

The Quarians tried to commit Genocide. They tried to destory there msitake instead of fixing it. It was there own dam fault.

I feel sad for the Geth, not the Quarians. They both need to find peace together or one side will lose and it will not be pretty.

WTF? You're telling me you would shoot a living brething person with emotions, family, hopes dreams and fears over a piece of hardware with reuploadable software?

[Ormagodenator]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

You know what, f*ck you guys.

I'm going to go play Fallout 3.

have fun in the Capital Wasteland

[Goat_Shepard]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Call me wierd but i find Geth adorable up close and would most likey shoot the Quarian because I like there flashlight head.............................................

Ok, Idk if I wanna continue talking, really. You're an unkind person. You do not shoot the quarian because you think the geth lamphead is cute. That's just wrong.

[Kikaimegami]

Damnit, this thread moves way too fast for me.

[Lividity Jones]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Not at all, but they need to make peace and if there is not peace option and I have to pick a side, I am picking the Geth. The Geth where wronged more then the Quarians where.

Whenever I see someone express this view, I automatically know I can't really take their point seriously on the subject, and I'll demonstrate why:

Someone puts a geth in front of you, and a (suitless) quarian. They give you a gun, and they tell you must shoot one. The geth's memories will not be backed up.

You look at the geth. He looks back at you, his optic glowing brightly, showing zero emotion or fear or appreciation for his life. Maybe he makes a few clicking sounds. 

Then you look at the quarian. Her face is painted with terror, her breathing is loud and completely unsteady. Her eyes are wet with infant tears. She's trembling in fear. 

If you tell me you'd rather shoot the quarian than the geth, you're either a liar or not entirely sane. 

Exactly. They have emotions (or at least Legion does), but they can't FEEL anything. It's hard to explain. Like Legion says, they understand what pain is, but they can't feel it.

Do geth even bleed? They murdered a billion quarians, women and children, and you dare feel sympathy for the machine?

Yes they bleed and they defended them self, Geth did not cause the war, the Quarians caused the war. Innocnets die in war.

Innocents that the geth killed. They killed children. Ripped babies out of the womb. Do you not understand that?

[Azint]

Again let me restate this:

The geth and quarians don't know what each other is doing. The quarians have been in contact with other races telling them of what happened, the geth only recently came out from the Veil. Both have been wronged, neither is right in their fight and they both are fully capable of making peace, but fear of each other makes them more inclined to do war.

Both sides need convincing, to favor either side promotes this xenophobia.

Modifié par Azint, 18 avril 2010 - 09:41 .

[kraidy1117]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...


Call me wierd but i find Geth adorable up close and would most likey shoot the Quarian because I like there flashlight head.............................................

The Geth where created for slave labor, they where getting smarter and the Quarians decided to kill them all, this turned into a war and the Geths protected them self. Pushing them out of the system for there safety. The Geth then stayed in the system, not bugging anyone.

The Quarians tried to commit Genocide. They tried to destory there msitake instead of fixing it. It was there own dam fault.

I feel sad for the Geth, not the Quarians. They both need to find peace together or one side will lose and it will not be pretty.

WTF? You're telling me you would shoot a living brething person with emotions, family, hopes dreams and fears over a piece of hardware with reuploadable software?

Geth have feelings. Geth are not a VI, they are a true AI and have feelings.

[RedTracer7]

sergio71785 wrote...

Azint wrote...

But the problem is the quarian wants to kill the geth, too. It's xenophobia, but it's true.

Holy crap, how many times must I say this.

Quarians don't want war, they want a homeworld. The ones in favor of war feel that it's the only way to get their homeworld back. In 300 years, the geth have never once let themselves be open to any kind of communication or negotiation. 

The whole issue isn't about hate, it's about lack of communication. 

99.9% of all Quarians will choose "Homeworld + Geth peace" over "Homeworld + Geth war"

With 300 years of fear and hatred, are the quarians really capable of coexisting peacefully with the Geth?  Legion himself acknolodges that the natural suspicion the quarians hold for ANY AI, especially the Geth, will inevitably result in war.

[Kikaimegami]

Agreeing the geth are cute right here, but not agreeing I'd shoot the quarian. The geth is backed up in their database.

[Someone With Mass]

Shooting a quarian just because the geth is "cute"? What the hell is wrong with you people?

[kraidy1117]

Lividity Jones wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Not at all, but they need to make peace and if there is not peace option and I have to pick a side, I am picking the Geth. The Geth where wronged more then the Quarians where.

Whenever I see someone express this view, I automatically know I can't really take their point seriously on the subject, and I'll demonstrate why:

Someone puts a geth in front of you, and a (suitless) quarian. They give you a gun, and they tell you must shoot one. The geth's memories will not be backed up.

You look at the geth. He looks back at you, his optic glowing brightly, showing zero emotion or fear or appreciation for his life. Maybe he makes a few clicking sounds. 

Then you look at the quarian. Her face is painted with terror, her breathing is loud and completely unsteady. Her eyes are wet with infant tears. She's trembling in fear. 

If you tell me you'd rather shoot the quarian than the geth, you're either a liar or not entirely sane. 

Exactly. They have emotions (or at least Legion does), but they can't FEEL anything. It's hard to explain. Like Legion says, they understand what pain is, but they can't feel it.

Do geth even bleed? They murdered a billion quarians, women and children, and you dare feel sympathy for the machine?

Yes they bleed and they defended them self, Geth did not cause the war, the Quarians caused the war. Innocnets die in war.

Innocents that the geth killed. They killed children. Ripped babies out of the womb. Do you not understand that?

A war caused by the Quarians....... Why do people seem to forget that.

[Azint]

sergio71785 wrote...

Azint wrote...

But the problem is the quarian wants to kill the geth, too. It's xenophobia, but it's true.

Holy crap, how many times must I say this.

Quarians don't want war, they want a homeworld. The ones in favor of war feel that it's the only way to get their homeworld back. In 300 years, the geth have never once let themselves be open to any kind of communication or negotiation. 

The whole issue isn't about hate, it's about lack of communication. 

99.9% of all Quarians will choose "Homeworld + Geth peace" over "Homeworld + Geth war"

Yeah, I have been saying neither side knows what the other is doing for like the past 5 pages.

[SPARTANMST]

LambdaNamNam wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Shepard is a friggin legend, man. He's the perfect person to go to. Plus he's always open to new ideas, work with aliens, etc.

That's a weak argument.

I don't think it even needs an argument, Shepard is well... Shepard, he's kick ass, period

Modifié par SPARTANMST, 18 avril 2010 - 09:39 .