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[SirEmilCrane]

Nightwriter wrote...

I'm starting to get apprehensive of this thing.

Rest assured, we dismantled it

[RiptideX1090]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
All they need now is to come out with some head gear that acts like a hood...

A hooded Shepard, Kasumi, and Tali. Assassin's Creed's got nothing on that.

Some more non-all-covering headgear would not be rejected.

Altair is riding Garret's coat-tails, though.

Ha! Someone else who knows who Garret is? I loved Theif.

Digital High Five.

[Azint]

Hypothetically, if Tali were to die, I don't think there should be any short cut to get over that. No squadmate replacement, no quarian sympathy, I think you should get punished for losing her, or any squadmate for that matter. You are directly responsible for that death, and to overcome that by smoothe-talking the quarians would cheapen her death.

[Phil725]

Azint wrote...

Well done! 19 pages in and we have begun a discussion, I'm so proud of you guys.

But my thoughts; The quarian/geth conflict will lose about half of the personal connection, making it much harder to negotiate with the quarians, seeing as how you are responsible for the death of one of their heroines.

Tali didn't really seem like a heroine during her trial.  At least half of the crowd was just fine with declaring her a traitor with no evidence.  She also would have died a hero (if it was possible for her to be killed.)  It isn't like Shepard killed her randomly.

And as much as I like Tali, she really isn't hugely important to the quarians reclaiming the homeworld.  Shepard and Legion are the key people.  Legion is the portal into the geth viewpoint, and Shepard can converse with/boss around the admirals without Tali.  Tali didn't really add much during her trial.

[Sleepicub09]

Azint wrote...

Hypothetically, if Tali were to die, I don't think there should be any short cut to get over that. No squadmate replacement, no quarian sympathy, I think you should get punished for losing her, or any squadmate for that matter. You are directly responsible for that death, and to overcome that by smoothe-talking the quarians would cheapen her death.

agreed

[Collider]

Azint wrote...

Okay, everyone is rambling about the aftermath. Let's actually try and start an on-topic discussion, I will start with a daring topic;

What do you think will happen if you start a game of Mass Effect 3 with Tali killed? How will the game play? What sort of impact will it have on the story?

And no saying crap like; I will never let Tali die! The point of the discussion is to share ideas, not dismiss them.

It will likely effect the Geth and Quarian story, to what extent I am not sure. This is due in part to the fact that you will almost certainly be able to play as a new Shepard in ME3, there is a possibility for some characters to be dead so allusions to ME2 will not be as frequent for the new player who would not understand them - just as they did with Wrex, the Rachni Queen, and the council. Tali's death may affect the possibility of recruiting the Quarians to your cause, although I am doubtful. Most likely, another NPC will replace her as the figurehead of the Quarians if that is her role in ME3.

Modifié par Collider, 06 avril 2010 - 06:36 .

[RiptideX1090]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
All they need now is to come out with some head gear that acts like a hood...

A hooded Shepard, Kasumi, and Tali. Assassin's Creed's got nothing on that.

Some more non-all-covering headgear would not be rejected.

Altair is riding Garret's coat-tails, though.

Ha! Someone else who knows who Garret is? I loved Theif.

Digital High Five.

WIN.

Good to see other fans of the game. Takes me back a ways...

[Archonsg]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

Okies, back home and I see Mr Woo finally closed thread 3.0 down.

Obligatory Space elf Tali Pics :

*snip*

Gonna go get Kasumi
BBL!

Wait, is she out already?

Uggh. No.
Probably in a few more hours. Its 2:30ish PM 6th Apr here  for me.

[cannedcream]

Phil725 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Okay, everyone is rambling about the aftermath. Let's actually try and start an on-topic discussion, I will start with a daring topic;

What do you think will happen if you start a game of Mass Effect 3 with Tali killed? How will the game play? What sort of impact will it have on the story?

And no saying crap like; I will never let Tali die! The point of the discussion is to share ideas, not dismiss them.

Well first of all, I will never let Tali die, so the discussion is pointless to me

That said, I don't think it will change anything.  You will go to the Tali related side quest (reclaiming their homeworld,) and another quarian will most likely act as a proxy in Tali's role of leading you around the flotilla and explaining things.

The quarians may be bigger jerks to you a la Wrex/Reave, but it won't make the mission impossible or anything.

This is pretty much my answer as well.

Of course, I never intened to find out how a Tali-less ME3 will play out, anyway.

[Goat_Shepard]

Collider wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...
Aww cmon man that's a moderators job, I can't police Jake and random trolls that have no allegience to any character it seems. Some images make me want to vomit but man I've seen some sick sh!t on the internet and in real life too. Let's you know how little humanity there is in this world. Dealing with moronic people and some of the more intelligent posters has been mind-boggling, but to quote one of my favorite characters:

"Those who are not constantly challenged, become weak."
I know...poor Quarians Tali's strong though :innocent:

Of course you personally cannot police them, they will continue ruining the thread for some sick pleasure or something. I am pretty desensitized to just about anything that would churn the blood of the average person, but I am just very disappointed to see it in this thread when we are perfectly able not to. This is not 4chan, I am not supposed to expect it in here.

I agree, makes me sick. Most of the times I feel physically noxious it's caused by one of the dozens of trolls. Ironically, we are the "creepy ones". (If Jake is the worst the Talimancers have to offer, I can tolerate just about all his stuff)

[NuclearBuddha]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Some more non-all-covering headgear would not be rejected.

Altair is riding Garret's coat-tails, though.

Ha! Someone else who knows who Garret is? I loved Theif.

Digital High Five.

Place your hand up against the screen, my friend.

The Thief series is one of the better arguments I've ever seen that PC gaming used to be better than it is now.

ME2 is one of the better counter-arguments.

[Deadeas]

If Tali were to die and a replacement teammate was needed, I'd be fine if Kal'Reegar joined the crew...Just sayin'.

[Collider]

Phil725 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Well done! 19 pages in and we have begun a discussion, I'm so proud of you guys.

But my thoughts; The quarian/geth conflict will lose about half of the personal connection, making it much harder to negotiate with the quarians, seeing as how you are responsible for the death of one of their heroines.

Tali didn't really seem like a heroine during her trial.  At least half of the crowd was just fine with declaring her a traitor with no evidence.  She also would have died a hero (if it was possible for her to be killed.)  It isn't like Shepard killed her randomly.

And as much as I like Tali, she really isn't hugely important to the quarians reclaiming the homeworld.  Shepard and Legion are the key people.  Legion is the portal into the geth viewpoint, and Shepard can converse with/boss around the admirals without Tali.  Tali didn't really add much during her trial.

I personally believe it is very possible for Tali to sway the Admiralty Board in favor of peace should she provide testament to Shepard and Legion's activities against the Heretic Geth. Shepard and obviously Legion are outsiders. If Tali is exonerated, she may help the effort in the Quarians realizing that peace is an option.

[Phil725]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Azint wrote...

Okay, everyone is rambling about the aftermath. Let's actually try and start an on-topic discussion, I will start with a daring topic;

What do you think will happen if you start a game of Mass Effect 3 with Tali killed? How will the game play? What sort of impact will it have on the story?

And no saying crap like; I will never let Tali die! The point of the discussion is to share ideas, not dismiss them.

Who replaces her? You need a Quarian crewmate, how could you have a playthrough with no Quarian? If Garrus is dead do you not have a Turian? Grunt dead you dont get Wrex or any krogan? Seems a boring-ass playthrough 

I would like to adopt a Quarian like that one on Omega. Make him my protege. Name him Junior....

*snip*

Thats a pretty massive amount of development to have a plan A and plan B character for each slot.  In fact, I'm pretty confident in saying they won't go that way, and design 25 different unique characters.  If your game file is corrupted, and Tali is dead in it as a result, I would assume your team is one smaller, and infinitely less awesome

Its motivation to import a game with the characters alive, although I do wonder how they'll handle the default import.  Everyone dead would be very dry.

[Azint]

Phil725 wrote...

Tali didn't really seem like a heroine during her trial.  At least half of the crowd was just fine with declaring her a traitor with no evidence.  She also would have died a hero (if it was possible for her to be killed.)  It isn't like Shepard killed her randomly.

And as much as I like Tali, she really isn't hugely important to the quarians reclaiming the homeworld.  Shepard and Legion are the key people.  Legion is the portal into the geth viewpoint, and Shepard can converse with/boss around the admirals without Tali.  Tali didn't really add much during her trial.

She was highly regarded until the trial came, and when you charm or intimidate the Admiralty Board, her name is restored.

She is important to the plot for the quarians, she represented an entire race in the first game, and she along with Legion are the major players in the geth and quarian conflict. I'm sure a playthrough can be suceeded without her, but I think there would be a cost, more than just losing her.

[sergio71785]

[RiptideX1090]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Some more non-all-covering headgear would not be rejected.

Altair is riding Garret's coat-tails, though.

Ha! Someone else who knows who Garret is? I loved Theif.

Digital High Five.

Place your hand up against the screen, my friend.

The Thief series is one of the better arguments I've ever seen that PC gaming used to be better than it is now.

ME2 is one of the better counter-arguments.

I never got to play it on PC, I played Theif of Shadows on the original XBox. Worth it. I'm a sucker for stealth games, like Thief and Splinter Cell, probably why I feel so at home as an Infiltrator.

[Goat_Shepard]

Collider wrote...

Azint wrote...

Okay, everyone is rambling about the aftermath. Let's actually try and start an on-topic discussion, I will start with a daring topic;

What do you think will happen if you start a game of Mass Effect 3 with Tali killed? How will the game play? What sort of impact will it have on the story?

And no saying crap like; I will never let Tali die! The point of the discussion is to share ideas, not dismiss them.

It will likely effect the Geth and Quarian story, to what extent I am not sure. This is due in part to the fact that you will almost certainly be able to play as a new Shepard in ME3, there is a possibility for some characters to be dead so allusions to ME2 will not be as frequent for the new player who would not understand them - just as they did with Wrex, the Rachni Queen, and the council. Tali's death may affect the possibility of recruiting the Quarians to your cause, although I am doubtful. Most likely, another NPC will replace her as the figurehead of the Quarians if that is her role in ME3.

Interesting. What other NPC? Kal'Reegar can die, otherwise he'd be perfect for a...erm....replacement *gulp* if the unthinkable should happen.