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[Azint]

cannedcream wrote...

Shepard: You see these two behind me? This turian and this quarian? I want you to take a good, hard look. These two are my shipmates, my friends, my family. I've fought alongside them, I've bleed alongside them. I've saved their lives and they've saved mine. I'd trust them with a gun to my back at any time. You? I don't know you and don't like you, so if I hear you say one more unkind thing to either one of these two standing behind me, then I promise you that it will be an act you will quickly learn to regret. By insulting my crew, my friends, my family you're also insulting me and trust me when I say this: you do not want to insult me.
 

Well put, CC.

[Godur]

cannedcream wrote...

That's right, Tali.
You give them what-for!

. . .Don't think I'll ever get Tali exiled to see for myself, though. . .

Tali was exiled in my first playthrough I didn't have enough paragon points by that time:crying:

[Azint]

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

[cannedcream]

RiptideX1090 wrote...


Still, that's manipulative, cruel, and NOT something I'd expect "family" to do, which is what Raan is to Tali, being her "Aunt."

The fact that Raan had to resort to that makes me sick. The fact that she did it makes me even sicker.

I can. . .understand the reasons, but I in no way condone them. <_<

[Lividity Jones]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...


And she's certifiably insane.

What does that say about the Admiralty?

Let's see:

Han'Gerrel: Idiot war monger willing to throw away his life and the lives of his entire species.

Daro'Xen: Psychotic fool who wants to try to re-enslave the geth.

Rael'Zorah: Had no problem torturing living organisms.

Zaal'Korris: The quarian equivalent to Velarn.

Shala'Raan: I honestly don't know what to think about her. She seemed like she wanted to help Tali... but at the same time...

Yeah, they're a real class act... that's for sure.

I understood what Shala had pulled on Tali at the time, primarily because I was already  ****ing furious at the Admiralty for dragging Tali into a trial and then casually informing her that her father might be dead.

Of those assembled, she seemed to be genuinely concerned for Tali's future.

Still, that's manipulative, cruel, and NOT something I'd expect "family" to do, which is what Raan is to Tali, being her "Aunt."

The fact that Raan had to resort to that makes me sick. The fact that she did it makes me even sicker.

I'm not trying to defend her. I'm just saying that it made sense at the time. If she thinks that will help Tali...

I wasn't there for politics. I wasn't there to kill geth. I was there to make sure Tali got out of this in one piece.

Whatever the Admiral's goal were or are, it didn't matter. I was going to help Tali.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

That...

Makes absolutely no sense at all...

Them quarians are a funny bunch...

[cannedcream]

Godur wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

That's right, Tali.
You give them what-for!

. . .Don't think I'll ever get Tali exiled to see for myself, though. . .

Tali was exiled in my first playthrough I didn't have enough paragon points by that time:crying:

Dood.
I'm so sorry.

[Lividity Jones]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

That...

Makes absolutely no sense at all...

Them quarians are a funny bunch...

Politics is a funny bunch.

[Azint]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Still, that's manipulative, cruel, and NOT something I'd expect "family" to do, which is what Raan is to Tali, being her "Aunt."

The fact that Raan had to resort to that makes me sick. The fact that she did it makes me even sicker.

Shala'Raan is the one who pulled the strings to get Tali and Shepard permission to retake the Alarei. She did try to do something.

[RiptideX1090]

Lividity Jones wrote...

I'm not trying to defend her. I'm just saying that it made sense at the time. If she thinks that will help Tali...

I wasn't there for politics. I wasn't there to kill geth. I was there to make sure Tali got out of this in one piece.

Whatever the Admiral's goal were or are, it didn't matter. I was going to help Tali.

Agreed.

Still, the Admirals needed to have the business end of a Cain shoved where the sun don't shine, and the trigger held down.

Again. You don't screw with Garrus, and you don't screw with Tali. Bad things should happen to those who do.

VERY bad things.

[cannedcream]

Azint wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

Ain't life grand?

I kinda liked that, though. There really is no good-guy/ bad-guy here.
Everyone is right for the wrong reasons and everyone is wrong for the right reasons.
It's all shades of grey, like the real world.

[Lividity Jones]

cannedcream wrote...

Azint wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

Ain't life grand?

I kinda liked that, though. There really is no good-guy/ bad-guy here.
Everyone is right for the wrong reasons and everyone is wrong for the right reasons.
It's all shades of grey, like the real world.

Dealing with the geth in ME3 is going to be one gigantic cluster****.

[cannedcream]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Agreed.

Still, the Admirals needed to have the business end of a Cain shoved where the sun don't shine, and the trigger held down.

Again. You don't screw with Garrus, and you don't screw with Tali. Bad things should happen to those who do.

VERY bad things.

You don't tug on Superman's cape,
You don't spit into the wind,
You don't pull the mask of the old Lone Ranger,
And you don't mess around with Rip.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Still, that's manipulative, cruel, and NOT something I'd expect "family" to do, which is what Raan is to Tali, being her "Aunt."

The fact that Raan had to resort to that makes me sick. The fact that she did it makes me even sicker.

Shala'Raan is the one who pulled the strings to get Tali and Shepard permission to retake the Alarei. She did try to do something.

She shouldn't have had to. The fact that she did shows how FUBAR the situation was. And she could have said something to Tali at the door. She didn't HAVE to tell Tali about her father in the trial. I seriously doubt even they thought Tali would send back something to INTENTIONALLY kill her father, which is the only purpose withholding that information would have served.

[cannedcream]

Lividity Jones wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Azint wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

Ain't life grand?

I kinda liked that, though. There really is no good-guy/ bad-guy here.
Everyone is right for the wrong reasons and everyone is wrong for the right reasons.
It's all shades of grey, like the real world.

Dealing with the geth in ME3 is going to be one gigantic cluster****.

Yeah it is.
Not. . .not going to be pretty.

[RiptideX1090]

Lividity Jones wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Azint wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

Ain't life grand?

I kinda liked that, though. There really is no good-guy/ bad-guy here.
Everyone is right for the wrong reasons and everyone is wrong for the right reasons.
It's all shades of grey, like the real world.

Dealing with the geth in ME3 is going to be one gigantic cluster****.

Agreed.

I'm looking forward to it.

[Lividity Jones]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Azint wrote...

Lord Coake wrote...

I find myself stunned that I'm standing up for Daro'Xen. Completely screwed as her objectives were, she was the only Admiral there actually doing her job.

The meglomaniac is the responsible one.
The warmongerer is the polite one.
And the asshole is the rational one.

Funny business.

Ain't life grand?

I kinda liked that, though. There really is no good-guy/ bad-guy here.
Everyone is right for the wrong reasons and everyone is wrong for the right reasons.
It's all shades of grey, like the real world.

Dealing with the geth in ME3 is going to be one gigantic cluster****.

Agreed.

I'm looking forward to it.

Upper Left Blue, don't fail me now!

[Azint]

Lividity Jones wrote...

Dealing with the geth in ME3 is going to be one gigantic cluster****.

We'll more than likely have Tali and Legion as mediators.

[cannedcream]

Very tired.

Must sleep now.



Keelah se'lai everyone.

See you again tomorrow night.



RELEASING CONTROL

[Lividity Jones]

cannedcream wrote...

Very tired.
Must sleep now.

Keelah se'lai everyone.
See you again tomorrow night.

RELEASING CONTROL

Keelah Se'lai, Cream!

[Azint]

RiptideX1090 wrote...


She shouldn't have had to. The fact that she did shows how FUBAR the situation was. And she could have said something to Tali at the door. She didn't HAVE to tell Tali about her father in the trial. I seriously doubt even they thought Tali would send back something to INTENTIONALLY kill her father, which is the only purpose withholding that information would have served.

It's already been established the whole trial was absurd.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Dealing with the geth in ME3 is going to be one gigantic cluster****.

We'll more than likely have Tali and Legion as mediators.

Or they'll both be the ones pointing the guns at eachother.

AGAIN.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...


She shouldn't have had to. The fact that she did shows how FUBAR the situation was. And she could have said something to Tali at the door. She didn't HAVE to tell Tali about her father in the trial. I seriously doubt even they thought Tali would send back something to INTENTIONALLY kill her father, which is the only purpose withholding that information would have served.

It's already been established the whole trial was absurd.

Indeed.

Politics... ugh...

[Godur]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Azint wrote...

We'll more than likely have Tali and Legion as mediators.

Or they'll both be the ones pointing the guns at eachother.

AGAIN.

Sounds like a job for Paragon Shepard! *epic fanfare*

[Azint]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Or they'll both be the ones pointing the guns at eachother.

AGAIN.

Tali was the only one with a gun. And unlikely; unless someone screwed up the confrontation.