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[Someone With Mass]

Rakia_Time wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

MadCat221 wrote...

I'm predicting all the chars will have "replacement" chars if they died, ones that you can opt for in place of current chars as well if they survived.  Say... Veetor replaces Tali if she died, or if you opt for Veetor instead, or something.  If Samara/Morinth died, you can get that one Asari chick that was on Feros. 

If those chars are dead too, well then, you're paying the price for your Renegadeness.  What, you didn't think there'd be repercussions?  Typical renegade...  <_<

I thought the replacement character thing would happen, but that is sort of rewarding your Renegadeness, isn't it? New content if you kill your squad?

I think there will be no replacement characters, MAYBE two brand new squaddies (Batarian, Vorcha???)

i think it will be better that if someone died in your game you don't get anyone new, basically if you can't keep your squad alive in ME2 in the next game you're screwed and have fewer people

Yeah, there has to be some consequences, not just "Oh, that character died? No problem, we'll give you a new one that you will certainly not care about."

[smecky-kitteh]

Rakia_Time wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

MadCat221 wrote...

I'm predicting all the chars will have "replacement" chars if they died, ones that you can opt for in place of current chars as well if they survived.  Say... Veetor replaces Tali if she died, or if you opt for Veetor instead, or something.  If Samara/Morinth died, you can get that one Asari chick that was on Feros. 

If those chars are dead too, well then, you're paying the price for your Renegadeness.  What, you didn't think there'd be repercussions?  Typical renegade...  <_<

I thought the replacement character thing would happen, but that is sort of rewarding your Renegadeness, isn't it? New content if you kill your squad?

I think there will be no replacement characters, MAYBE two brand new squaddies (Batarian, Vorcha???)

i think it will be better that if someone died in your game you don't get anyone new, basically if you can't keep your squad alive in ME2 in the next game you're screwed and have fewer people

i like that idea but i doudt bioware would do that. especaily sence (i feel) they didn't emphisise that you will want your squad around in ME3 or there may be consiquences.

[NuclearBuddha]

Phil725 wrote...
No chance for this happening in my mind.  Its too much writing to make 24+ squad mates.  Replacement characters just aren't practical, you're denying half of the game content to people without ME2, and it isn't making people pay for their bad choices at all.  I really think its as simple as they're dead, you go on without them. 

My guess is that Liara and Ash/Kaiden are the replacements.  Thus you have a guaranteed 3-man squad no matter who survived the suicide mission (which gives BW the option to drop ME2 characters like Zaeed or whatever).

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 21 avril 2010 - 03:38 .

[LambdaNamNam]

Phil725 wrote...


Not necessarily, Tali isn't integral to the plot of ME2.  You can skip recruiting her altogether.  I don't think you have any problem with her role in ME2.  They could do it just as well in ME3.

I do share your fear of a reduced focus as well.  Its the reason that I don't expect ME3 to be as loved as ME2.  Everyone loves something different in ME2, and there's a good chance that ME3 won't focus on that part as much.  For me, its the characters, and I'm almost certain they'll take a backseat in ME3.  I'm just holding out hope that they go all out on the romance arc.

QFT

Just look at all the "support threads" and BW will probably introduce more recruitable characters. Some people are bound to be disappointed with the choice of characters in ME3 (can't have 'em all I suppose). I just hope it won't be us Talimancers.
Personally I don't  care whether the rest of the cast has a central role, a cameo or disappears totally as long as Tali is recruitable.

[Phil725]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
No chance for this happening in my mind.  Its too much writing to make 24+ squad mates.  Replacement characters just aren't practical, you're denying half of the game content to people without ME2, and it isn't making people pay for their bad choices at all.  I really think its as simple as they're dead, you go on without them. 

My guess is that Liara and Ash/Kaiden are the replacements.  Thus you have a guaranteed 3-man squad no matter who survived the suicide mission (which gives BW the option to drop ME2 characters like Zaeed or whatever).

Agreed, and I think Wrex has a chance to come back as well.  He's just one well organized coup away from needing a home

[NuclearBuddha]

Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
My guess is that Liara and Ash/Kaiden are the replacements.  Thus you have a guaranteed 3-man squad no matter who survived the suicide mission (which gives BW the option to drop ME2 characters like Zaeed or whatever).

Agreed, and I think Wrex has a chance to come back as well.  He's just one well organized coup away from needing a home

I see less chance of this.  For the default player of ME2, he's not even alive.  And I'd actually prefer he stay where he is, trying to make the krogan viable members of galactic society.

[Phil725]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
My guess is that Liara and Ash/Kaiden are the replacements.  Thus you have a guaranteed 3-man squad no matter who survived the suicide mission (which gives BW the option to drop ME2 characters like Zaeed or whatever).

Agreed, and I think Wrex has a chance to come back as well.  He's just one well organized coup away from needing a home

I see less chance of this.  For the default player of ME2, he's not even alive.  And I'd actually prefer he stay where he is, trying to make the krogan viable members of galactic society.

True, I forgot about the whole him dying in ME1 thing

[Goat_Shepard]

Phil725 wrote...

I think the whole "chicken feet" thing
was just in response to her being so popular.  It would be stupid on
their part to expect her to be completely unpopular, especially when
they can tell her character is intriguing and mysterious.  It is
possible that they didn't expect this much though.

I think Garrus and Tali were always set to come back in ME2 as well.  That was pretty
much their only selling point to ME1 fans.  "Hey, we've changed pretty
much everything about ME1, but Tali and Garrus are back [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]"

I think they could tell that the romance arcs for those characters would  be more emotionally engaging as well.  When the biggest limitation to a  believable romance is it happening in 3 conversations, you can't replace the time factor for those two.  I don't see how Bioware could have  possibly missed that opportunity, and they didn't.

I  swear the chicken feet comment was about Tali Love, which I guess is a  mix of general fans and the "pro-LI" fans. I'll have to look it up.

Either way, you make a good point about continuity...everything changed from  ME1 to ME2 except Tali and Garrus. How can the other LIs or any  squaddies compare when you've got that history?

So Bioware planned on Tali and Garrus, being the only quarian and turian teammates, but the "fanservice" was just them increasing the already existing content for these characters.

JeanLuc761 wrote...
While you make a good point, Tali shouldn't be INTEGRAL to the conflict resolution, Bioware could put just as much character emphasis on her during that subplot as they did during her loyalty mission.  For example, and this is actually the basic plot for a fanfiction I have coming up:

Tali could have some business to take care of on the Flotilla (memorial service for her father or something, quarians only).  While she's gone, Legion tells you that he wishes to go to Rannoch, to show you the planet.  They go, and Legion demonstrates how the geth have been cleaning up the world, making it suitable for rehabilitation.  Shepard returns to the flotilla, excited as all hell, and makes a formal announcement to the Admirality board that the geth are willing to enter peace negociations and return the homeworld.  

Now, at no point in this was Tali crucial to this entire process, but delivering the news direct to her face will hold 100x more meaning than if she was not around.  

Interesting. So it will be just as epic, just less Tali . The in-between dialogue and romance better strike gold. In fact, instead of loyalty missions they better give us some DA:O-style banter between squaddies

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 21 avril 2010 - 03:41 .

[smecky-kitteh]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
My guess is that Liara and Ash/Kaiden are the replacements.  Thus you have a guaranteed 3-man squad no matter who survived the suicide mission (which gives BW the option to drop ME2 characters like Zaeed or whatever).

Agreed, and I think Wrex has a chance to come back as well.  He's just one well organized coup away from needing a home

I see less chance of this.  For the default player of ME2, he's not even alive.  And I'd actually prefer he stay where he is, trying to make the krogan viable members of galactic society.

i cant think of a reason for wrex being apart of the squad when he's trying to help his people but having him revamped to be in your squad would be pretty cool but i dont think that will happen. 

[Someone With Mass]

As long as Tali, Legion and Garrus are a part of my squad, I'm happy.



Oh, and a romance for Tali (male Shep) and Garrus (femShep)

[smecky-kitteh]

ok now i have to go

[Phil725]

Rakia_Time wrote...

Phil725 wrote...



Agreed, and I think Wrex has a chance to come back as well.  He's just one well organized coup away from needing a home

Don't you think it's better not to have Wrex in your squad but to have a Krogan army instead of having only 1 krogan (2 with Grunt)

Sure, but Wrex being usurped and ran out of Tuchanka, and then having to go back and personally unite the krogan has the same result.  I don't see Wrex's position being safe, no leader looking for radical change is ever safe. 

It easily fits in with believable lore, but game limitations probably will keep it from happening.

[JeanLuc761]

Someone With Mass wrote...

As long as Tali, Legion and Garrus are a part of my squad, I'm happy.

Oh, and a romance for Tali (male Shep) and Garrus (femShep)

Bioware would be shooting themselves in the foot if Tali and Garrus don't return, for one simple reason:  They've been written so they have absolutely nowhere to go except stay with Shepard.

Tali is Tali'Zorah vas Normandy who can be exiled, and Garrus has nobody else in the universe.

[Calculatrice]

Rakia, Jeanluc, Mass, Smecky, NuclearBuddha... Hola! What's the topic?

[Goat_Shepard]

Cya kitteh

Phil725 wrote...

Rakia_Time wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Agreed, and I think Wrex has a chance to come back as well.  He's just one well organized coup away from needing a home

Don't you think it's better not to have Wrex in your squad but to have a Krogan army instead of having only 1 krogan (2 with Grunt)

Sure, but Wrex being usurped and ran out of Tuchanka, and then having to go back and personally unite the krogan has the same result.  I don't see Wrex's position being safe, no leader looking for radical change is ever safe. 

It easily fits in with believable lore, but game limitations probably will keep it from happening.

Wrex is old, really old. He should die in glorious battle in ME3 Like he jumps on top of the nose of a Reaper and smashes it's "brain" and destroys it MUAHAHA!!

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
No
chance for this happening in my mind.  Its too much writing to make 24+  squad mates.  Replacement characters just aren't practical, you're  denying half of the game content to people without ME2, and it isn't  making people pay for their bad choices at all.  I really think its as  simple as they're dead, you go on without them. 

My  guess is that Liara and Ash/Kaiden are the replacements.  Thus  you have a guaranteed 3-man squad no matter who survived the suicide  mission (which gives BW the option to drop ME2 characters like Zaeed or
whatever).

Don't forget our new Batarian and Vorcha
recruitables [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie] *crosses fingers*

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 21 avril 2010 - 03:47 .

[Sky Shadowing]

Phil725 wrote...
No chance for this happening in my mind.  Its too much writing to make 24+ squad mates.  Replacement characters just aren't practical, you're denying half of the game content to people without ME2, and it isn't making people pay for their bad choices at all.  I really think its as simple as they're dead, you go on without them. 

Agreed, I'd suspect that maybe- MAYBE- there'll be 3 new squadmates that are used to "fill in the gaps". Like, say, you have a AdeptShep, Tali, Jack, Kaidan, and Liara. That's heavily Biotic and not so heavily Soldier. So you'll hire a Soldier mercenary, just to allow you to have a rounded out party. That brings it up to 6 party members.

Naturally, the new party members will be kind of generic. Try and talk to them, they'll just say something like "I'm paid to fight, not to talk."

[Someone With Mass]

Calculatrice wrote...

Rakia, Jeanluc, Mass, Smecky, NuclearBuddha... Hola! What's the topic?

It's about who'll return in ME3, and for what reason.

[NuclearBuddha]

Calculatrice wrote...

Rakia, Jeanluc, Mass, Smecky, NuclearBuddha... Hola! What's the topic?

Have you done your part?

[Calculatrice]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Calculatrice wrote...

Rakia, Jeanluc, Mass, Smecky, NuclearBuddha... Hola! What's the topic?

It's about who'll return in ME3, and for what reason.

Well, Tali obviously.

[Goat_Shepard]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Calculatrice wrote...

Rakia, Jeanluc, Mass, Smecky, NuclearBuddha... Hola! What's the topic?

It's about who'll return in ME3, and for what reason.

Smecky just left and you don't mention me? Screw you

[MrBoomba]

I'm heading off to logic and fairytales, ill be lurking...

Keelah Se'Lai

[NuclearBuddha]

Sky Shadowing wrote...

Naturally, the new party members will be kind of generic. Try and talk to them, they'll just say something like "I'm paid to fight, not to talk."

If this happens, I can just imagine the petulant forum rage.  Zaeed is an awesome guy, but he's never quite recovered from the "no dialogue wheel, BAAAAWWWW!" thing.

[Calculatrice]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Calculatrice wrote...

Rakia, Jeanluc, Mass, Smecky, NuclearBuddha... Hola! What's the topic?

Have you done your part?

Well, Kasumi is winning by one vote...