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[NuclearBuddha]

cannedcream wrote...

Collider wrote...

I wonder how Tali's exile or exoneration will factor into ME3. It kind of disturbs me that exoneration could mean she's an admiral and would not have time for Shepard or the romance. In that case I'd have to import an exile playthrough. Logically the exile/exoneration thing will come into play somehow in ME3, the questions is how and how much.

I really can't see Tali leaving Shepard for any reason by this point, not even to join the board. I mean, when she talks about it that one time, she does not seem to admit about joining, now she might after the Reapers are defeated, but until that happens, I highly doubt Tali would leave Shepard's side.


. . .I hope.

...“Of course, I’ll be with you, Shepard vas Normandy,” Tali finally said, her voice moist and broken, “for as long as I can.  You’re my captain, I’m your crew, the Normandy is our home.”

---

Together.

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 06 avril 2010 - 07:30 .

[RiptideX1090]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Ya know the worse part of not being a Artist, is when you have a cool idea yet cannot draw a stick figure right.

As an artist... I can tell you it's even MORE frustrating when you spend days or weeks on a picture only for it to not come out at all like you'd hoped...

[sergio71785]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Well, I guess I'd just have to be popping some head into Legion's flashlight cranium, then.

Yeah, seriously.

Legion, you're pretty cool, but Tali > You

[Collider]

Phil725 wrote..
How does Shepard gain from getting the quarians back on the homeworld?

You misunderstand, if I am understanding you. I actually said the opposite, that Shepard would not gain anything from that, and therefore would appear suspect by the Quarians.

If anything, Shepard's opinion should hold more weight, because he isn't vested in the decision.  He could just as easily not worry about the quarians at all, and not try and convince them, it doesn't affect him.  The fact that he's going through the trouble should prove something.

I disagree. Shepard is written off so quickly on the Flotilla, people are openly racist to him. If Legion is with him he could be appear even more suspect.

The only way I can see them not listening is if they expect that Shepard is trying to lead them into a trap, or that Legion is lying to him and convinced him of something that isn't true.

This is my point. They are going to believe him just because he says so? They didn't believe him before going to Alarei, at all. You can charm the council into exonerating Tali, but that is a huge difference from suddenly working with the Geth.

I can't really see the former happening, what motivation would Shep have?

I'm not saying Shepard would actually act against the Flotilla. I'm saying the Admiralty Board could easily not believe him or trust him without more than just his word.

And as far as the latter, if they believed that was true, why would Tali's opinion change anything when she was just as succeptible to the lies?

Because she is a Quarian? She would take more persuading than Shepard. That much is obvious when you recruit Legion. She is distrustful of him.

[Azint]

sergio71785 wrote...

Anyway, I don't expect most people to know who Tali is, like they would Shepard. Just like most people wouldn't be able to name any astronauts beyond Neil Armstrong.

Shepard was named after an astronaut.

[Jake71887]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Ya know the worse part of not being a Artist, is when you have a cool idea yet cannot draw a stick figure right.

Seconded...

So much rule 34 I could be drawing

[NuclearBuddha]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Ya know the worse part of not being a Artist, is when you have a cool idea yet cannot draw a stick figure right.

I feel your pain, man.

[Azint]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Ya know the worse part of not being a Artist, is when you have a cool idea yet cannot draw a stick figure right.

...Go on.

[VettoRyouzou]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

Ya know the worse part of not being a Artist, is when you have a cool idea yet cannot draw a stick figure right.

As an artist... I can tell you it's even MORE frustrating when you spend days or weeks on a picture only for it to not come out at all like you'd hoped...

Oh I could only imagine, But I had this idea for a more Tragic picture it a great picture you see TiM laying dead in the room you all way see him in a nice little smoking hole threw his head and a Pistol on the ground as you see Shepard clutching onto a dieing Tali and a simple phrase, "To love a quarian is to be like a quarian... and to be a quarian is to put the need of the many over that of the few".

Modifié par VettoRyouzou, 06 avril 2010 - 07:35 .

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

cannedcream wrote...
Oh. Sarcasum does not always travel well over the internets.

I'll tell you what though, if BioWare does anything even close to what I just thought up I will crap my pants.

. . .COPYRIGHT! I call Copyright BioWare. If you want this story then you have to pay me.

. . .or let me voice act a character.

Either is good.

If this site's terms of agreement are anything like most other such places, they own anything you post.  So sorry.

. . .Bosh'tets.

[NuclearBuddha]

cannedcream wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
If this site's terms of agreement are anything like most other such places, they own anything you post.  So sorry.

. . .Bosh'tets.

In their defense, they do it to protect themselves from spurious lawsuits.

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Collider wrote...

I wonder how Tali's exile or exoneration will factor into ME3. It kind of disturbs me that exoneration could mean she's an admiral and would not have time for Shepard or the romance. In that case I'd have to import an exile playthrough. Logically the exile/exoneration thing will come into play somehow in ME3, the questions is how and how much.

I really can't see Tali leaving Shepard for any reason by this point, not even to join the board. I mean, when she talks about it that one time, she does not seem to admit about joining, now she might after the Reapers are defeated, but until that happens, I highly doubt Tali would leave Shepard's side.


. . .I hope.

...“Of course, I’ll be with you, Shepard vas Normandy,” Tali finally said, her voice moist and broken, “for as long as I can.  You’re my captain, I’m your crew, the Normandy is our home.”

---

Together.

Nuke, you need to seriously stop being awesome for, like, five minutes.

You're giving me an inferiority complex. 

[sergio71785]

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

[RiptideX1090]

cannedcream wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Collider wrote...

I wonder how Tali's exile or exoneration will factor into ME3. It kind of disturbs me that exoneration could mean she's an admiral and would not have time for Shepard or the romance. In that case I'd have to import an exile playthrough. Logically the exile/exoneration thing will come into play somehow in ME3, the questions is how and how much.

I really can't see Tali leaving Shepard for any reason by this point, not even to join the board. I mean, when she talks about it that one time, she does not seem to admit about joining, now she might after the Reapers are defeated, but until that happens, I highly doubt Tali would leave Shepard's side.


. . .I hope.

...“Of course, I’ll be with you, Shepard vas Normandy,” Tali finally said, her voice moist and broken, “for as long as I can.  You’re my captain, I’m your crew, the Normandy is our home.”

---

Together.

Nuke, you need to seriously stop being awesome for, like, five minutes.

You're giving me an inferiority complex. 

I hear that. His stories are the best. All the characters are always in character, something many so called writers fail to grasp...

[Phil725]

Collider wrote...

Phil725 wrote..
How does Shepard gain from getting the quarians back on the homeworld?

You misunderstand, if I am understanding you. I actually said the opposite, that Shepard would not gain anything from that, and therefore would appear suspect by the Quarians.

If anything, Shepard's opinion should hold more weight, because he isn't vested in the decision.  He could just as easily not worry about the quarians at all, and not try and convince them, it doesn't affect him.  The fact that he's going through the trouble should prove something.

I disagree. Shepard is written off so quickly on the Flotilla, people are openly racist to him. If Legion is with him he could be appear even more suspect.

The only way I can see them not listening is if they expect that Shepard is trying to lead them into a trap, or that Legion is lying to him and convinced him of something that isn't true.

This is my point. They are going to believe him just because he says so? They didn't believe him before going to Alarei, at all. You can charm the council into exonerating Tali, but that is a huge difference from suddenly working with the Geth.

I can't really see the former happening, what motivation would Shep have?

I'm not saying Shepard would actually act against the Flotilla. I'm saying the Admiralty Board could easily not believe him or trust him without more than just his word.

And as far as the latter, if they believed that was true, why would Tali's opinion change anything when she was just as succeptible to the lies?

Because she is a Quarian? She would take more persuading than Shepard. That much is obvious when you recruit Legion. She is distrustful of him.

I tend to think that Shepard's opinion holds more weight than you think.  While he isn't a quarian, he repelled the geth attack on the Citadel, and killed 5 million(?) geth on that space station.  He's probably killed more geth than all quarians combined.  In their culture, that has to count for a lot.  Tali is a quarian, but I can't see them valuing the opinion of the average quarian (granted, Tali is a cut above average,) over someone with Shep's distinguished record.

The other thing though, why does Shep have to convince them right away?  All he has to do is convince them to hear Legion out, and let them make their own decisions (I think he could easily convince them to do that.)  At that point, Tali's opinion becomes moot because they have their own quarian opinion.  If they won't believe the stuff straight from the geth, how is anyone else's outside opinion (outside of a Shep charm/intimidate,) supposed to change their mind?

[Azint]

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

That's why Rannoch will likely be a major part of ME3. And likely Tali will play a large role in that, along with Legion, that's why losing either is a big mistake.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

That's why Rannoch will likely be a major part of ME3. And likely Tali will play a large role in that, along with Legion, that's why losing either is a big mistake.

This.

[NuclearBuddha]

cannedcream wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
...“Of course, I’ll be with you, Shepard vas Normandy,” Tali finally said, her voice moist and broken, “for as long as I can.  You’re my captain, I’m your crew, the Normandy is our home.”

---

Together.

Nuke, you need to seriously stop being awesome for, like, five minutes.

You're giving me an inferiority complex. 

Write something happy for once.  You might like the results.

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
If this site's terms of agreement are anything like most other such places, they own anything you post.  So sorry.

. . .Bosh'tets.

In their defense, they do it to protect themselves from spurious lawsuits.

*sigh* I know. I just. . .really wanna be a ME character. Not asking to be a new squad mate or anything.

Your loss BioWare. I'd be AMAZING.

I'M HUMBLE!!!!!!

[Phil725]

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

[NuclearBuddha]

Phil725 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

They've got 51000 some ships.  Even if only a quarter are battle-worthy...

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
...“Of course, I’ll be with you, Shepard vas Normandy,” Tali finally said, her voice moist and broken, “for as long as I can.  You’re my captain, I’m your crew, the Normandy is our home.”

---

Together.

Nuke, you need to seriously stop being awesome for, like, five minutes.

You're giving me an inferiority complex. 

Write something happy for once.  You might like the results.

I'M TRYING KEELAH DAMN IT!

Gah! Why is there no emoticon to show my frustration?!


. . .Good enough!

[Phil725]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

They've got 51000 some ships.  Even if only a quarter are battle-worthy...

How does that compare to the other armies though?  All I know is the approximate dreadnought counts for the races, not the other ships.  On that note also, I doubt the quarians have any ships that could match the destructive power of a small fleet of dreadnoughts.

[Deadeas]

I hate Noveria.

...

That is all.