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[NuclearBuddha]

cannedcream wrote...
I'M TRYING KEELAH DAMN IT!

Gah! Why is there no emoticon to show my frustration?!


. . .Good enough!

Look how happy your frustration is!  Can't you follow his example in writing?

[RiptideX1090]

Phil725 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

It's stated several times that the Migrant fleet is the largest fleet in the Milky Way. Period.

And most of those ships are armed. Regardless if a Quarian cruiser is as new as a Turian one, the Quarians have put a lot more time and energy into learning their ships capabilities and custom building the armaments. The Turians lost only 20 Cruisers at the Citadel, which was enough to loose them a Council seat. Something tells me the Quarians have a lot more than that.

[sergio71785]

Phil725 wrote...
Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

I'm not saying they'll single-handedly send Reapers running, but hundreds of ships are still hundreds of ships.Reapers don't seem to have any type of area of effect attack either. 

[cannedcream]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

I hear that. His stories are the best. All the characters are always in character, something many so called writers fail to grasp...

I know, right?

I need to find a way to steal his powers and make them my own.
You know, like that guy in Heroes. :innocent:

[VettoRyouzou]

I'm just going to point this bit out, Remember 1 reaper deviated the Citadel fleet to the point the alliance navy had to come in and even then the alliance navy took a hit and they were all pretty cutting edge.

[NuclearBuddha]

Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

They've got 51000 some ships.  Even if only a quarter are battle-worthy...

How does that compare to the other armies though?  All I know is the approximate dreadnought counts for the races, not the other ships.  On that note also, I doubt the quarians have any ships that could match the destructive power of a small fleet of dreadnoughts.

Good question.  The horrific heretic geth fleet mentioned in the Haestron system (Hell's Hive) is between 5000 and 10000 ships or something like that.

The game says the quarians have the single biggest fleet, though.

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

cannedcream wrote...
I'M TRYING KEELAH DAMN IT!

Gah! Why is there no emoticon to show my frustration?!


. . .Good enough!

Look how happy your frustration is!  Can't you follow his example in writing?

So. . .I should make Tali a wizard?
Don't really see how that will help, but, okay. . .

[RiptideX1090]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

They've got 51000 some ships.  Even if only a quarter are battle-worthy...

How does that compare to the other armies though?  All I know is the approximate dreadnought counts for the races, not the other ships.  On that note also, I doubt the quarians have any ships that could match the destructive power of a small fleet of dreadnoughts.

Good question.  The horrific heretic geth fleet mentioned in the Haestron system (Hell's Hive) is between 5000 and 10000 ships or something like that.

The game says the quarians have the single biggest fleet, though.

And the Geth are thought to have the largest fleet in the galaxy aside from the Quarians, aren't they?

If that's the case... Migrant Fleet is indeed formidable.

[sergio71785]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

I'm just going to point this bit out, Remember 1 reaper deviated the Citadel fleet to the point the alliance navy had to come in and even then the alliance navy took a hit and they were all pretty cutting edge.

It wasn't just Sovereign though; he had a great deal of Geth ships with him too.

[cannedcream]

VettoRyouzou wrote...

I'm just going to point this bit out, Remember 1 reaper deviated the Citadel fleet to the point the alliance navy had to come in and even then the alliance navy took a hit and they were all pretty cutting edge.

Yeah, it's. . .not going to be a pretty fight.

[Azint]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

It's stated several times that the Migrant fleet is the largest fleet in the Milky Way. Period.

And most of those ships are armed. Regardless if a Quarian cruiser is as new as a Turian one, the Quarians have put a lot more time and energy into learning their ships capabilities and custom building the armaments. The Turians lost only 20 Cruisers at the Citadel, which was enough to loose them a Council seat. Something tells me the Quarians have a lot more than that.

The quarians are quite martial, but their reputation for creating the geth and living as nomads precedes that. They excel at orbital strikes, mainly using hit and run tactics, so they do not often do sustained fights, due to scarce resources.

And to note, they have the largest known fleet in the galaxy it is unknown what the geth have, and the Reapers are beyond the Milky Way.

Modifié par Azint, 06 avril 2010 - 07:51 .

[RiptideX1090]

sergio71785 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

I'm just going to point this bit out, Remember 1 reaper deviated the Citadel fleet to the point the alliance navy had to come in and even then the alliance navy took a hit and they were all pretty cutting edge.

It wasn't just Sovereign though; he had a great deal of Geth ships with him too.

If every Ship in the galaxy, frigates all the way up to Dreadnaughts, got together and could focus all their fire on a Bottleneck, like a Mass Relay, they could stand a hell of a chance against the Reapers.

A Reaper can shrug off a Dreadnaught's main cannon strike.

Can it shrug off 80 at once?

[NuclearBuddha]

cannedcream wrote...
I know, right?

I need to find a way to steal his powers and make them my own.
You know, like that guy in Heroes. :innocent:

...The dip created by the platforms shielded them from the fire of the  Collectors behind them, but as they climbed back up the other side, they were again vulnerable.  Zaeed took up a position higher on the slope  and started covering the others as they tried to get out of the  depression to a more defensible position.  As Tali started to climb up  past his firing point, she saw a husk rear up behind him, its  cable-wrapped arms grasping powerfully for the mercenary's neck.

Too startled to call out a warning, Tali raised her shotgun and her finger  tightened on the trigger.  Eyes widening, Zaeed threw himself down, his shields sparkling as he caught the edge of the shot.  The husk was smashed aside, shattering as if it was made of glass.  Unbalanced, Tali fell back, landing painfully.

Zaeed stood again, looming over her, face contorted with rage as he hefted his rifle one-handed.  Tali quailed; he didn't know what had happened!

"Girl, you goddam nearly killed me!" he roared.  The mercenary's bleached eye jittered wildly, bloodshot.  Free hand reaching down, he roughly pulled her to her feet.  "Thanks."

---

Apart.

[chool77]

you know you want to!!!

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The anti-Reaper movement would gain a lot by the Quarians getting their homeworld back. With the Quarians having an actual home to shelter their non-combatants and injured, they'll be able to spare hundreds, if not thosuands more ships to fight the Reapers.

Yeah, but I've never really heard numbers.  How does the quarian battle ready army compare to the salarians for example?  (The smallest council army.)  The quarians have outdated ships built to defend against slavers and pirates, the turians and humans have state of the art battleships for outright war.

It's stated several times that the Migrant fleet is the largest fleet in the Milky Way. Period.

And most of those ships are armed. Regardless if a Quarian cruiser is as new as a Turian one, the Quarians have put a lot more time and energy into learning their ships capabilities and custom building the armaments. The Turians lost only 20 Cruisers at the Citadel, which was enough to loose them a Council seat. Something tells me the Quarians have a lot more than that.

The quarians are quite martial, but their reputation for creating the geth and living as nomads precedes that. They excel at orbital strikes, mainly using hit and run tactics, so they do not often do sustained fights, due to scarce resources.

And to note, they have the largest known fleet in the galaxy it is unknown what the geth have, and the Reapers are beyond the Milky Way.

True, I should have phrased that better.

Irregardless, not having them with you when the Reapers show will probably be a bad thing.

[VettoRyouzou]

sergio71785 wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

I'm just going to point this bit out, Remember 1 reaper deviated the Citadel fleet to the point the alliance navy had to come in and even then the alliance navy took a hit and they were all pretty cutting edge.

It wasn't just Sovereign though; he had a great deal of Geth ships with him too.

But sovereign was doing the most damage, there a reason why the heretic geth just didn't charge in there to begin with.

Also this proves a kind of point here ya they were geth there and look how much damage they were doing and there the second largest fleet from what we know of, and to top it all off there pretty fing cutting edge to.. So were the quirians may out number them in a small margin for all we know we do know they out tech them as well there ships are in far better shape.

[Phil725]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

*snip*
How does that compare to the other armies though?  All I know is the approximate dreadnought counts for the races, not the other ships.  On that note also, I doubt the quarians have any ships that could match the destructive power of a small fleet of dreadnoughts.

Good question.  The horrific heretic geth fleet mentioned in the Haestron system (Hell's Hive) is between 5000 and 10000 ships or something like that.

The game says the quarians have the single biggest fleet, though.

And the Geth are thought to have the largest fleet in the galaxy aside from the Quarians, aren't they?

If that's the case... Migrant Fleet is indeed formidable.

So we don't have numbers for the individual armies?  I guess we're left to wait until ME3 to see what they give us as far as militaristic capabilities.

I just don't see how a race of 17 million (I think that's how many quarians there are,) could compete with the army of a race of over 10 billion for the humans, and however many the turians have.  No matter how tech savy the quarians are, the sheer numbers are a huge difference.

[sergio71785]

Anyway, I know how to take out the Reapers. Much like Lord of the Rings, you can solve the entire problem with a catapult.

See, a Dreadnaught's main gun slug hits for like 30K kilotons. That sounds pretty impressive, until you consider the fact that we have nukes today that literally have 1000x more explosive yield than that.

So, what we do is get all of Earths' nukes (we got tens of thousands of them right now!), along with the nukes of the other advanced races, load them all unto a big ol' catapult, and launch them towards the Reapers.

Modifié par sergio71785, 06 avril 2010 - 07:54 .

[NuclearBuddha]

Phil725 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

*snip*
How does that compare to the other armies though?  All I know is the approximate dreadnought counts for the races, not the other ships.  On that note also, I doubt the quarians have any ships that could match the destructive power of a small fleet of dreadnoughts.

Good question.  The horrific heretic geth fleet mentioned in the Haestron system (Hell's Hive) is between 5000 and 10000 ships or something like that.

The game says the quarians have the single biggest fleet, though.

And the Geth are thought to have the largest fleet in the galaxy aside from the Quarians, aren't they?

If that's the case... Migrant Fleet is indeed formidable.

So we don't have numbers for the individual armies?  I guess we're left to wait until ME3 to see what they give us as far as militaristic capabilities.

I just don't see how a race of 17 million (I think that's how many quarians there are,) could compete with the army of a race of over 10 billion for the humans, and however many the turians have.  No matter how tech savy the quarians are, the sheer numbers are a huge difference.

In ground forces they absolutely can't compete.  But in terms of fleets?  Maybe.

[Azint]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

If every Ship in the galaxy, frigates all the way up to Dreadnaughts, got together and could focus all their fire on a Bottleneck, like a Mass Relay, they could stand a hell of a chance against the Reapers.

A Reaper can shrug off a Dreadnaught's main cannon strike.

Can it shrug off 80 at once?

Even fewer defeated Sovereign.

[RiptideX1090]

Phil725 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

*snip*
How does that compare to the other armies though?  All I know is the approximate dreadnought counts for the races, not the other ships.  On that note also, I doubt the quarians have any ships that could match the destructive power of a small fleet of dreadnoughts.

Good question.  The horrific heretic geth fleet mentioned in the Haestron system (Hell's Hive) is between 5000 and 10000 ships or something like that.

The game says the quarians have the single biggest fleet, though.

And the Geth are thought to have the largest fleet in the galaxy aside from the Quarians, aren't they?

If that's the case... Migrant Fleet is indeed formidable.

So we don't have numbers for the individual armies?  I guess we're left to wait until ME3 to see what they give us as far as militaristic capabilities.

I just don't see how a race of 17 million (I think that's how many quarians there are,) could compete with the army of a race of over 10 billion for the humans, and however many the turians have.  No matter how tech savy the quarians are, the sheer numbers are a huge difference.

But you have to remember only 3% of all humans serve in the military, and a fraction of that in space.

The Quarians might be few, but their fleet is still massive. That's what matters here.

[Azint]

sergio71785 wrote...

 Anyway, I know how to take out the Reapers. Much like Lord of the Rings, you can solve the entire problem with a catapult.

See, a Dreadnaught's main gun slug hits for like 30K kilotons. That sounds pretty impressive, until you consider the fact that we have nukes today that literally have 1000x more explosive yield than that.

So, what we do is get all of Earths' nukes (we got tens of thousands of them right now!), along with the nukes of the other advanced races, load them all unto a big ol' catapult, and launch them towards the Reapers.

I don't know why, but I'm thinking of Monty Python right now.

[RiptideX1090]

Azint wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

If every Ship in the galaxy, frigates all the way up to Dreadnaughts, got together and could focus all their fire on a Bottleneck, like a Mass Relay, they could stand a hell of a chance against the Reapers.

A Reaper can shrug off a Dreadnaught's main cannon strike.

Can it shrug off 80 at once?

Even fewer defeated Sovereign.

Exactly my point. The Reapers rely on surprise tactics. They are not invincible, and they know it. Having lost the element of surprise, they are now not only vulnerable, but desperate.

[Phil725]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...
*snip*
And the Geth are thought to have the largest fleet in the galaxy aside from the Quarians, aren't they?

If that's the case... Migrant Fleet is indeed formidable.

So we don't have numbers for the individual armies?  I guess we're left to wait until ME3 to see what they give us as far as militaristic capabilities.

I just don't see how a race of 17 million (I think that's how many quarians there are,) could compete with the army of a race of over 10 billion for the humans, and however many the turians have.  No matter how tech savy the quarians are, the sheer numbers are a huge difference.

In ground forces they absolutely can't compete.  But in terms of fleets?  Maybe.

Well at this point I'm completely speculating, but ground warfare seems relatively outdated.  While I'm sure the armies would continue to train ground forces, it seems that they would be wise to focus a huge percentage of the budget on navy.

I guess the humans could be behind the quarians based on time, the humans haven't been around long, but that still leaves the turians.  Or are they limited in military build up?  I may have stumbled on my answers