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[Azint]

Pacifien wrote...
Play like a Vanguard. Die like a Vanguard.

Scoped and dropped. A mantra I can live by.

To each creed their own.

[Kira Shepard]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Sometimes I wonder what the military role of the Vanguard is. I mean, he's a biotic, so he's a very limited resource. Presumably he's backed up by regular soldiers (using ARs?). But if he charges, he's going to be in their line of fire.

They're the blitzkrieg of the alliance rush in kill anything in their path.

[RiptideX1090]

I'm a sharpshooter myself. I always go for Carbines, Precision rifles, and Sniper rifles.



One shot, one kill. Anything more is wasteful.

[khevan]

Kira Shepard wrote...
*snip because I'm not awesome enough to even quote that*

*slow clap*

I am impressed.

[NuclearBuddha]

khevan wrote...
I always wind up re-starting as an Infiltrator...and romancing Tali.

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother.

We can be friends, I think.

[Collider]

khevan wrote...

Ok, now I know I'm in the right place.

I always start a playthru with a class, and I get through a few missions and quit and restart an Infiltrator.

I also have started various playthrus to bring a Miranda romance into ME3, to see how that plays out...but I just can't bring myself to finish it.

I always wind up re-starting as an Infiltrator...and romancing Tali.

I have one playthru where I stayed loyal to Ash from ME1, to see how that story arc plays out, but every. single. other. playthru has been with Tali.

Welcome. Similar case with me. Granted, I've only gone through ME2 twice in total. I have a playthrough as F!Shepard going on right now to romance Garrus, but my main Shepard romanced Tali. I actually tried Miranda's romance too, but I couldn't go through it. Her like of Cerberus is too much of an obstacle, especially since my canon Shepard is a sole survivor.

Modifié par Collider, 25 juin 2010 - 07:39 .

[Azint]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Sometimes I wonder what the military role of the Vanguard is. I mean, he's a biotic, so he's a very limited resource. Presumably he's backed up by regular soldiers (using ARs?). But if he charges, he's going to be in their line of fire.

Like all the other classes, I assume they are to make up for a position in a commando unit. I believe all the classes are intended to have backup to fill in the shortcomings of another class. But the soldier seems to be a self-sustaining unit all on their own.

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Sometimes I wonder what the military role of the Vanguard is. I mean, he's a biotic, so he's a very limited resource. Presumably he's backed up by regular soldiers (using ARs?). But if he charges, he's going to be in their line of fire.

"Wait guys! Wait! Time-out! Lemme get back over there! Okay, Time-in!"

[NuclearBuddha]

El-Destructo wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Sometimes I wonder what the military role of the Vanguard is. I mean, he's a biotic, so he's a very limited resource. Presumably he's backed up by regular soldiers (using ARs?). But if he charges, he's going to be in their line of fire.

Shock troops. They can find a hole in the enemy defenses and exploit it more easily than anyone else. And take a bigger beating because of the way charge refills their barrier.

But are there enough of them to fill such a role?  I mean, biotics don't grow on trees.

[Collider]

I'm really enjoying my soldier playthrough. Use my assault rifle to get rid of shields and then finish them off with my sniper rifle. Good times.

[khevan]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

khevan wrote...
I always wind up re-starting as an Infiltrator...and romancing Tali.

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother.

We can be friends, I think.

Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more.

I am honored by your words.

[Azint]

Pacifien wrote...

I always return to the Infiltrator. But I've had fun as a Vanguard, Adept, and currently as an Engineer.

Three combat drones makes for some very amusing experiences. A bonus if they are all under the same specialization, and the same target.

Modifié par Azint, 25 juin 2010 - 07:39 .

[NuclearBuddha]

That's the other thing that's kinda weird. In general the AR is the workhorse of the modern military, and I don't see that changing. But only 1 class can use it.

[cannedcream]

Pacifien wrote...

I always return to the Infiltrator. But I've had fun as a Vanguard, Adept, and currently as an Engineer.

Vanguard was my first class and the first character I imported to ME2, but now that I've had a sweet, sweet taste of the Widow. . . I can never go back.

[NuclearBuddha]

cannedcream wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Sometimes I wonder what the military role of the Vanguard is. I mean, he's a biotic, so he's a very limited resource. Presumably he's backed up by regular soldiers (using ARs?). But if he charges, he's going to be in their line of fire.

"Wait guys! Wait! Time-out! Lemme get back over there! Okay, Time-in!"

Humorously, that's just about what Kasumi does.

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
I'm really enjoying my soldier playthrough. Use my assault rifle to get rid of shields and then finish them off with my sniper rifle. Good times.

Wait, did you take the Revenant or the Widow?

[NCLanceman]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Sometimes I wonder what the military role of the Vanguard is. I mean, he's a biotic, so he's a very limited resource. Presumably he's backed up by regular soldiers (using ARs?). But if he charges, he's going to be in their line of fire.

Their specific objective, I think, would be to break heavily defended positions. A Vanguard is very good at tying up a large number of enemies, which could open up gaps for the rest of the Vanguard's unit to exploit - either to slip by the rest of the defenses or to flank units. In small units, with Special Forces (just like Shepard and everyone else with the 'N' specification), this could work brilliantly. Vanguards, however, don't strike me as the type of biotic suited for regular infantry or garrison detail. Corporate security might be a possibility, or bodyguard work, but that's getting ahead of myself.

[Strawberry Kiwi]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

That's the other thing that's kinda weird. In general the AR is the workhorse of the modern military, and I don't see that changing. But only 1 class can use it.

Plus, everyone gets one in cutscenes, anyway.
At least it kinda made sense in ME1, where everyone had an AR, even if they sucked with it.

[cannedcream]

Azint wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

I always return to the Infiltrator. But I've had fun as a Vanguard, Adept, and currently as an Engineer.

Three combat drones makes for some very amusing experiences. A bonus if they are all under the same specialization, and the same target.

You can actually hear the sound of the victim crapping themselves as the drones move in.

[NuclearBuddha]

NCLanceman wrote...
Their specific objective, I think, would be to break heavily defended positions. A Vanguard is very good at tying up a large number of enemies, which could open up gaps for the rest of the Vanguard's unit to exploit - either to slip by the rest of the defenses or to flank units.

Designated diversion?  Yikes!

[khevan]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

That's the other thing that's kinda weird. In general the AR is the workhorse of the modern military, and I don't see that changing. But only 1 class can use it.

The assault rifle (whatever the flavor, be it the AK-47, the M-16 family, or any of the other lesser known types) are great at "mid-ranged" combat, from about 50-300 meters.  This is where most real life combat takes place.

This makes the assault rifle a solid choice for modern militaries, because it simplifies logistics, the bane of any military unit.  Beans and bullets, as they say.  If everyone uses the same weapon, then everyone uses the same bullets.  It's a cost thing, really.

[El-Destructo]

khevan wrote...
I always wind up re-starting as an Infiltrator...and romancing Tali.

Ditto for Tali. At least for my male Shepards.
I give Meer and Hale relatively equal time, and I tend to favor Infiltrator, Soldier, and Engineer over the other classes. However, I have tried them all, and have a completed playthrough on a Sentinel. I'm not very good at Vanguard, it takes a bit too much twitch for my tastes. I like to pick apart the opposition in relative safety.

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Humorously, that's just about what Kasumi does.

Good point.

[Azint]

cannedcream wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

I always return to the Infiltrator. But I've had fun as a Vanguard, Adept, and currently as an Engineer.

Vanguard was my first class and the first character I imported to ME2, but now that I've had a sweet, sweet taste of the Widow. . . I can never go back.

I had a similar experience, I picked up the Claymore in my first game. Mind you the Claymore is actually a good weapon, but the Eviscerator trumps it for range and nearing the same DPS. Then enters the Widow...

I call her Clementine.

[NuclearBuddha]

khevan wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

That's the other thing that's kinda weird. In general the AR is the workhorse of the modern military, and I don't see that changing. But only 1 class can use it.

The assault rifle (whatever the flavor, be it the AK-47, the M-16 family, or any of the other lesser known types) are great at "mid-ranged" combat, from about 50-300 meters.  This is where most real life combat takes place.

This makes the assault rifle a solid choice for modern militaries, because it simplifies logistics, the bane of any military unit.  Beans and bullets, as they say.  If everyone uses the same weapon, then everyone uses the same bullets.  It's a cost thing, really.

Well, the ammo thing is moot, since ME guns all just use blocks of metal.  But you bring up a good point:  maybe most action takes place at closer range in ME.