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It's a clever-as-hell way to avoid uncanny valley problems.RiptideX1090 wrote...
Indeed.
How the hell is it that the most sympathetic/sexy race in the game don't even have faces?
Actually... makes sense when I think about it...
Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 28 juin 2010 - 07:16 .
RiptideX1090 wrote...
Indeed.
How the hell is it that the most sympathetic/sexy race in the game don't even have faces?
Actually... makes sense when I think about it...
Thundertactics wrote...
As I said, it's the hips and voice that tip me over the edge. /semi-seriousNuclearBuddha wrote...
So theenslavementutter obliteration of the free will of a entire race is okay for the right goal. Do you also support what the Reapers did to the Protheans? Or are you just making an exception for synthetics? What if it were the asari? Quarians? Humanity?
My Paragade will remain with Tali and will get Rannoch peacefully. (Unless that's impossible, I'll side with the quarians that way: quarians>geth)
MyReneDarogade will instantly join Daro'Xen.
And yes, them being synthetics does make up a large part of my indifference for their destruction/brainwashing, besides, they nearly wiped out the quarian race (like 99.9% of 'em), it's only fair if we try the same.
There may remain small pockets of resistance/survivors, and I'd try to let them coexist.
Thundertactics wrote...
As I said, it's the hips and voice that tip me over the edge. /semi-seriousNuclearBuddha wrote...
So theenslavementutter obliteration of the free will of a entire race is okay for the right goal. Do you also support what the Reapers did to the Protheans? Or are you just making an exception for synthetics? What if it were the asari? Quarians? Humanity?
My Paragade will remain with Tali and will get Rannoch peacefully. (Unless that's impossible, I'll side with the quarians that way: quarians>geth)
MyReneDarogade will instantly join Daro'Xen.
And yes, them being synthetics does make up a large part of my indifference for their destruction/brainwashing, besides, they nearly wiped out the quarian race (like 99.9% of 'em), it's only fair if we try the same.
There may remain small pockets of resistance/survivors, and I'd try to let them coexist.
I'm afraid I don't speak Garbled Shouting, could you try speaking in English?mikethor007 wrote...
Aaaaaagh!
Someone With Mass wrote...
RiptideX1090 wrote...
Indeed.
How the hell is it that the most sympathetic/sexy race in the game don't even have faces?
Actually... makes sense when I think about it...
It's all about the forbidden fruit.
Exactly, but from what I understand, Buddha rarely takes the renegade options, so he might not be aware of this.RiptideX1090 wrote...
Legion actually AGREES with this thinking.
And Tali questions it.RiptideX1090 wrote...
Legion actually AGREES with this thinking.Thundertactics wrote...
And yes, them being synthetics does make up a large part of my indifference for their destruction/brainwashing,
Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 28 juin 2010 - 07:20 .
NuclearBuddha wrote...
And Tali questions it.RiptideX1090 wrote...
Legion actually AGREES with this thinking.Thundertactics wrote...
And yes, them being synthetics does make up a large part of my indifference for their destruction/brainwashing,
But changing their minds along a more peaceful course for coexistence is different that returning them to the state of insentient tools.
Yes, but Tali's just too damn selfless and kind for all of this.NuclearBuddha wrote...
And Tali questions it.
To be fair, we don't know how much of their "AI-ishness" Daro plans to take away, maybe she just plans to make them more complient but keep their AI capabilities. (Like the Heretics planned to do for the Reapers)But changing their minds along a more peaceful course for coexistence is different that returning them to the state of insentient tools.
Quarians, you always want to stand up for them and help them if they are being harrased or treated poorlyRiptideX1090 wrote...
Someone With Mass wrote...
RiptideX1090 wrote...
Indeed.
How the hell is it that the most sympathetic/sexy race in the game don't even have faces?
Actually... makes sense when I think about it...
It's all about the forbidden fruit.
Indeed.
I'll probably select whatever path doesn't haveRiptideX1090 wrote...
I'm all for peace, and will persue it, but we'll see what happens in 3. you KNOW Bioware is going to throw a curveball. We'll see what comes of it.
Thundertactics wrote...
Yes, but Tali's just too damn selfless and kind for all of this.NuclearBuddha wrote...
And Tali questions it.To be fair, we don't know how much of their "AI-ishness" Daro plans to take away, maybe she just plans to make them more complient but keep their AI capabilities. (Like the Heretics planned to do for the Reapers)But changing their minds along a more peaceful course for coexistence is different that returning them to the state of insentient tools.
Modifié par Someone With Mass, 28 juin 2010 - 07:25 .
I think not. She explicitly denies geth personhood. You know, her speech about doing whatever she pleases to tools?Thundertactics wrote...
To be fair, we don't know how much of their "AI-ishness" Daro plans to take away, maybe she just plans to make them more complient but keep their AI capabilities. (Like the Heretics planned to do for the Reapers)
NuclearBuddha wrote...
I'll probably select whatever path doesn't haveRiptideX1090 wrote...
I'm all for peace, and will persue it, but we'll see what happens in 3. you KNOW Bioware is going to throw a curveball. We'll see what comes of it.the Reapersme turningthe Protheansthe geth intoCollectorsmindless machines.
RiptideX1090 wrote...
That's actually an interesting theory... not limiting their sentience... only limiting their ability to attack the quarians...
That would certainly make it a bit more morally grey...
Everyone loves imaginationNuclearBuddha wrote...
It's a clever-as-hell way to avoid uncanny valley problems.RiptideX1090 wrote...
Indeed.
How the hell is it that the most sympathetic/sexy race in the game don't even have faces?
Actually... makes sense when I think about it...
What she says in ME2 suggests this is not the case.RiptideX1090 wrote...
That's actually an interesting theory... not limiting their sentience... only limiting their ability to attack the quarians...Thundertactics wrote...
To be fair, we don't know how much of their "AI-ishness" Daro plans to take away, maybe she just plans to make them more complient but keep their AI capabilities. (Like the Heretics planned to do for the Reapers)
That would certainly make it a bit more morally grey...
Thundertactics wrote...
I'm afraid I don't speak Garbled Shouting, could you try speaking in English?mikethor007 wrote...
Aaaaaagh!
Yes, yes. Childhood toys 'n all that.NuclearBuddha wrote...
I think not. She explicitly denies geth personhood. You know, her speech about doing whatever she pleases to tools?
Also this.Lividity Jones wrote...
It seems likely. She'll likely
build on Rael's research.
Dumbing down the geth will only make
them a less-efficient fighting force.
Not what she wants.
Better
that they are simply made obedient.
Modifié par Thundertactics, 28 juin 2010 - 07:28 .
Might might might. Let's keep the argument closer to just what can be proven within the game as it stands. Otherwise you might as well assume that she really is a kind and gentle person and the only thing she plans, despite everything she says, is to give the geth the parental love they never had.Thundertactics wrote...
Yes, yes. Childhood toys 'n all that.NuclearBuddha wrote...
I think not. She explicitly denies geth personhood. You know, her speech about doing whatever she pleases to tools?
But she might realise that this simply won't work (geth constantly using others linked to the neural network to back-up and reboot), she may eventually come to the conclusion that an adjustment to their lower algorithms is the only possible way to "reclaim" them, even if they're slightly (more advanced and) different tools than before.
NuclearBuddha wrote...
What she says in ME2 suggests this is not the case.RiptideX1090 wrote...
That's actually an interesting theory... not limiting their sentience... only limiting their ability to attack the quarians...Thundertactics wrote...
To be fair, we don't know how much of their "AI-ishness" Daro plans to take away, maybe she just plans to make them more complient but keep their AI capabilities. (Like the Heretics planned to do for the Reapers)
That would certainly make it a bit more morally grey...
That's what the heretic's virus aimed to attain.Thundertactics wrote...
Yes, yes. Childhood toys 'n all that.NuclearBuddha wrote...
I think not. She explicitly denies geth personhood. You know, her speech about doing whatever she pleases to tools?
But she might realise that this simply won't work (geth constantly using others linked to the neural network to back-up and reboot), she may eventually come to the conclusion that an adjustment to their lower algorithms is the only possible way to "reclaim" them, even if they're slightly (more advanced and) different tools than before.
RiptideX1090 wrote...
Indeed.
Just saying, there are still things we don't know. We'l see where it goes. In all seriousnessness, I'll likely opt for peace and end up shooting Xen between the eyes.
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