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[TTTX]

Savakka1 wrote...

Only Quarian I really hate is Golo, and if we go with Tali exile reality, then I hate Kar'Danna.

I hate Golo and Xen. I don't hate Korios he is just an idiot.

[RiptideX1090]

Savakka1 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Savakka1 wrote...

Only Quarian I really hate is Golo, and if we go with Tali exile reality, then I hate Kar'Danna.

Only quarians I don't hate are Veetor, Reeger, and Tali.

Atleast Seeto should be on that list. Oh wait, he is dead

Well, Ysin'Mal Vas Ideena in that case.

EDIT: Yep, these too: Lia'Vael, Kenn, Valley Girl Quarian, and Slave Girl Quarian

Mal is an idiot.

He wants to use the Reapers to get to the geth. At least, he's considering it.

He'll probably side with Xen.

[Titanium Man]

Any of you guys read what I wrote up there? It's not much but I've been CLAMORING to **** that man out :V

[NCLanceman]

nitefyre410 wrote...

so what is your biggest gripe about how writers represent tali character?

Like... fanfic writers? 

About half of Fanfiction.net seems to think she's painfully shy, a nervous wreck, helpless without Shepard, and can't fight so good.

That annoys me greatly. She is none of those things but they're in almost every story.

[Someone With Mass]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Mal is an idiot.

He wants to use the Reapers to get to the geth. At least, he's considering it.

He'll probably side with Xen.

I wouldn't call Mal an idiot. Maybe he was misinformed about what the Reapers are, or maybe that event took place before the truth about the Reapers came out.

[Savakka1]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Savakka1 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Savakka1 wrote...

Only Quarian I really hate is Golo, and if we go with Tali exile reality, then I hate Kar'Danna.

Only quarians I don't hate are Veetor, Reeger, and Tali.

Atleast Seeto should be on that list. Oh wait, he is dead

Well, Ysin'Mal Vas Ideena in that case.

EDIT: Yep, these too: Lia'Vael, Kenn, Valley Girl Quarian, and Slave Girl Quarian

Mal is an idiot.

He wants to use the Reapers to get to the geth. At least, he's considering it.

He'll probably side with Xen.

I guess he doesn't have the time to team with Xen when he is away from the fleet with the Ideena.

Modifié par Savakka1, 29 juin 2010 - 05:58 .

[RiptideX1090]

NCLanceman wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

so what is your biggest gripe about how writers represent tali character?

Like... fanfic writers? 

About half of Fanfiction.net seems to think she's painfully shy, a nervous wreck, helpless without Shepard, and can't fight so good.

That annoys me greatly. She is none of those things but they're in almost every story.

Well, the shy part I can understand.

But Tali is also a world class fighter. People often lose perspective of that.

[Savakka1]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

NCLanceman wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

so what is your biggest gripe about how writers represent tali character?

Like... fanfic writers? 

About half of Fanfiction.net seems to think she's painfully shy, a nervous wreck, helpless without Shepard, and can't fight so good.

That annoys me greatly. She is none of those things but they're in almost every story.

Well, the shy part I can understand.

But Tali is also a world class fighter. People often lose perspective of that.

She has a good combat training. That should never be forgotten

[Tairis Deamhan]

Anyone on Shepard's ship is damn good in a fight, that's for sure.



The shy part I definitely get.



And I would also add, however, that if she's alone, Tali is definitely weaker in a fight against a non-mechanical enemy than most any of the rest of the Normandy crew save Mordin.

[Someone With Mass]

NCLanceman wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

so what is your biggest gripe about how writers represent tali character?

Like... fanfic writers? 

About half of Fanfiction.net seems to think she's painfully shy, a nervous wreck, helpless without Shepard, and can't fight so good.

That annoys me greatly. She is none of those things but they're in almost every story.

They probably got that image when they saw the romance scene, and didn't look at her character as a whole. Yes, she can be shy, but that's because she was about to do something that she had never experienced before. She shows almost no signs of being that nervous in other situations. 

People should analyze her character for more than five minutes if they're going to write about her. 

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 29 juin 2010 - 06:11 .

[NCLanceman]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Well, the shy part I can understand.

But Tali is also a world class fighter. People often lose perspective of that.

Well, yeah, she's shy. Around Shepard. When talking about intimacy. That I can see.

But somewhere along the way it turns into every conversation with Shepard or just with everyone. I can't stand it. It's ridiculous and makes me wonder what in the hell these people were playing. Seriously, i've been here a while; ya'll might've noticed I don't get bent out of shape very often. But this has made me rage more times by the end of the first chapter than... well, anything else in recent memory. I think I literally started foaming at the mouth at this one.

I could go on, but that would require I find these horrors.

EDIT: Another gripe of mine is when people say 'dextro-DNA' instead of 'dextro-amino acids'. I start twitching every time I find that non-term. Half the reason I like Kikai is that she doesn't use that term.

Modifié par NCLanceman, 29 juin 2010 - 06:10 .

[Tairis Deamhan]

Could also be characterization from the first game. She definitely has alot more 'nervous' dialogue in ME1

[Thelacan]

 I think I have the chapter three now done, but to stay coherent with the update-pace it'll be up in tomorrow. But I'll provide you guys the two teasers I've shown you already! Ain't that grand?

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”You're right... Sorry, I'm just a little bit sleepdeprived. Thank you Tali” he said and lifted his gaze to meet her shining eyes. He glanced over his shoulder again.
”Guess I didn't have that reach what needed to get that done” he chuckled. ”Nor the flexibilty” she quipped. Shepard allowed himself to smile a little bit, but her eyes revealed that she wasn't amused.

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”You really should be more careful...” she whispered and ran one of her digits on top of a long scar, that went from the collarbone down to his side. Her touch bringing goosebumps on his skin as it went down, her eyes following her finger. Shepard had closed his eyes and strived to focus his mind back to the present, ignoring the chills that her touch sent down his spine.

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[Savakka1]

Situations when Tali has been nervous...

I only remember Her Trial and when she talks to Shepard about linking suits and still a little during 2nd romance dialogue.

Can't really remember nervous scenes from ME1. When she asked about the Geth data, perhaps?

Modifié par Savakka1, 29 juin 2010 - 06:14 .

[NCLanceman]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Could also be characterization from the first game. She definitely has alot more 'nervous' dialogue in ME1

No it isn't. I'm playing trying to get a Male and Female Shepard so I can beat everything in ME1 once and for all for a set of saves for ME2 playthoughs. I've been listening to about every line Tali has in ME1. She's been resigned, excited, intrigued, awestruck, homesick, sarcastic, thoughtful, and ruthlessly pragmatic. However, she's never once seemed 'nervous'. It's just not her.

[Titanium Man]

Agreed on Tali characterization. She's way too nervous. Maybe she gushes a little around Shepard, but she can still compose herself.

[NuclearBuddha]

NCLanceman wrote...
Like... fanfic writers? 

About half of Fanfiction.net seems to think she's painfully shy, a nervous wreck, helpless without Shepard, and can't fight so good.

That annoys me greatly. She is none of those things but they're in almost every story.

She might be a nervous wreck, but for the most part it's a completely internal thing.  The life she leads is such that no matter how she feels she has to keep moving forward.



(Dangit, I see a missed a chance to be a Shala apologist.)

[Someone With Mass]

NCLanceman wrote...

EDIT: Another gripe of mine is when people say 'dextro-DNA' instead of 'dextro-amino acids'. I start twitching every time I find that non-term. Half the reason I like Kikai is that she doesn't use that term.

I just say dextro-DNA, because I really don't care about the weakly structured and explained reason why they can't eat the same food as us. 

[Tairis Deamhan]

NCLanceman wrote...

Well, yeah, she's shy. Around Shepard. When talking about intimacy. That I can see.

But somewhere along the way it turns into every conversation with Shepard or just with everyone. I can't stand it. It's ridiculous and makes me wonder what in the hell these people were playing. Seriously, i've been here a while; ya'll might've noticed I don't get bent out of shape very often. But this has made me rage more times by the end of the first chapter than... well, anything else in recent memory. I think I literally started foaming at the mouth at this one.

I could go on, but that would require I find these horrors.

EDIT: Another gripe of mine is when people say 'dextro-DNA' instead of 'dextro-amino acids'. I start twitching every time I find that non-term. Half the reason I like Kikai is that she doesn't use that term.

Okay just read that second one... jesus that was a headache and a half.
As for ME1: I just thought I recalled her original dialogues during the whole bit with the council and the first couple conversations on the Normandy being a little less self assured. but then its also been awhile since I played 1.

[Thelacan]

Actually Tali seems to be nervous when uncertain of what the future holds for her.
In Virmire, she is worried, not so nervous.
Trial, to be exiled, or not
Romance, will she get rejected or not. O4R, will it work, will she survive.

At least those are the occasions I can remember her being clearly nervous.

Modifié par Thelacan, 29 juin 2010 - 06:20 .

[NuclearBuddha]

NCLanceman wrote...
Well, yeah, she's shy. Around Shepard. When talking about intimacy. That I can see.

But somewhere along the way it turns into every conversation with Shepard or just with everyone. I can't stand it. It's ridiculous and makes me wonder what in the hell these people were playing. Seriously, i've been here a while; ya'll might've noticed I don't get bent out of shape very often. But this has made me rage more times by the end of the first chapter than... well, anything else in recent memory. I think I literally started foaming at the mouth at this one.

I could go on, but that would require I find these horrors.

EDIT: Another gripe of mine is when people say 'dextro-DNA' instead of 'dextro-amino acids'. I start twitching every time I find that non-term. Half the reason I like Kikai is that she doesn't use that term.

Now I'm hurriedly going through all my stuff looking for offenses.

[TTTX]

Savakka1 wrote...

Situations when Tali has been nervous...

I only remember Her Trial and when she talks to Shepard about linking suits and still a little during 2nd romance dialogue.

Can't really remember nervous scenes from ME1. When she asked about the Geth data, perhaps?

she is not nervous in ME1 and you forgot the romance scene in ME2 there she also nervous.

[RiptideX1090]

Someone With Mass wrote...

NCLanceman wrote...

EDIT: Another gripe of mine is when people say 'dextro-DNA' instead of 'dextro-amino acids'. I start twitching every time I find that non-term. Half the reason I like Kikai is that she doesn't use that term.

I just say dextro-DNA, because I really don't care about the weakly structured and explained reason why they can't eat the same food as us. 

Dextro-DNA is a term actually used in the game. It is acceptable.

[Savakka1]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

NCLanceman wrote...
-snip-

Okay just read that second one... jesus that was a headache and a half.
As for ME1: I just thought I recalled her original dialogues during the whole bit with the council and the first couple conversations on the Normandy being a little less self assured. but then its also been awhile since I played 1.

First dialogue with Tali on the Normandy? I remember that she was very eager.

[NuclearBuddha]

Titanium Man wrote...
Shepard: What did you say to me?

Kar'Danna: You heard me.  This never would have happened if Tali'Zorah had approached this more intelligently.  Maybe she would have learned that if she spent part of her Pilgrimage on a better ship.

FFFFUUUUUUUUU--!