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But is there any quarian female who isn't sexy? I think not.Image IPB

Yes. I include personality in my 'sexy' category. Tali is the only quarian I am remotely attracted to.

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If this thread obsessed half as much about Shala'Raan, the world would be a better place.

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Phil725 wrote...

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The relunctance to have intelligent conversations in this thread will be why Tali threads and the Tali fandom will forever be known as people drooling, obsessing and perversing over a video game character. Unless you begin changing.


Who says the thread is opposed to intelligent discussion?

The several posts that said that they wanted to stop debating and instead just talk about Tali inanely. That's what I mean.

Obviously some people don't want to do it, but plenty do.

I get a little annoyed that the other threads aren't like this. Literally every other character thread is fine with these types of discussions, and encourage them. Considering Tali is a favorite of mine, I get disappointed that the thread is generally held as substandard to the other ones. Sometimes it feels like I need to apologize for being a tali fan.

@NuclearBuddha: I get what you mean, and yea, I'm being too judgmental, and I shouldn't be. But you may be able to imagine why I may be disappointed when the most intelligent conversations are being spurned and stigmatized.

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Keelah Se'Lai, productivity time.

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HA........ Obsession it never gets old

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Lividity Jones wrote...

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Man, LJ.  Living up to the name today...


I'm in a less-than-cordial mood.

Yeah, what was going on last night between Rip and yourself? You were both very moody, uncharacteristically so.

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Collider wrote...

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Counter-argument:
They don't "die being on most worlds that other races can live on fine", they actually adapt to new environments which might even make them more of a 'threat' for widespread expansion.

What are you talking about?


Tali's dialog regarding Quarian immune systems.  Before they were confined to the fleet, they adapted readily to new environments - their systems were designed to tolerate external viruses and pollens, adjusting after a period of alergic reaction.

To "probably stuck to their little slice of the galaxy" I again offer "They had mapped more relays than anyone else".


So? If they can't expand, it doesn't matter.


And I hope I have explained above why they could expand and why it mattered (at the time).

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Azint wrote...

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Collider wrote...

The relunctance to have intelligent conversations in this thread will be why Tali threads and the Tali fandom will forever be known as people drooling, obsessing and perversing over a video game character. Unless you begin changing.



Can you see me not caring? Cause I am.

A fine example.


I take that as a compliment actually.Image IPB

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SenHai wrote...
This is what makes me not like Collider. I swear I said some where that he needs to drop it.Image IPB

I can see where he's coming from, but this method of approaching it will probably not achieve desired results.  Ironic, really, considering the topic.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

If this thread obsessed half as much about Shala'Raan, the world would be a better place.

Why don't you initiate the new phase?

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Azint wrote...

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Just asking Collider's opinion, since apparently incompetent and negligent leaders of a galaxy-spanning governmental body are acceptable.

True, disposing them is unrealistic considering the Reapers, but does that mean we have to content with the fact that the Council has not ruled as it should?

That the galaxy deserves better than the Council's policies of non-involvement?

Regardless of personal views, the Council is still an important asset. They rule over a galactic civilization, and have done so for a long time. Like Udina, you dislike them and how they operate, but they actually do their jobs and for the most part, you do benefit from what they provide. The arguement being thrown around is how much they care for the quarians. I already stated that they likely do have the quarians on their agenda, but they have not actually treated the problem yet.

  

The   Council does not Rule the  Galaxy it functions more like the UN as mediator and peace keeping  body  but if  say the Turians and humans  want to go at it again then the  Alliance and the  Hierarchy can tell their respective Councilors to kiss their  ass.   

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Azint wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Man, LJ.  Living up to the name today...


I'm in a less-than-cordial mood.

Yeah, what was going on last night between Rip and yourself? You were both very moody, uncharacteristically so.


Short version? Paranoia.

Long version? Reckoning is a very stressful project, for both of us. We're putting alot of ourselves into it and we're paranoid about just about every little detail. I'm a little on edge, to say the least.

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HA........ Obsession it never gets old


It doesn't. Image IPB

Well only for the less enlightened.

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Collider wrote...
The several posts that said that they wanted to stop debating and instead just talk about Tali inanely. That's what I mean.

I would suggest that's not a matter of unwillingness to discuss, but rather a symptom of fatigue, or even the feeling that the discussion is getting to heated.  Different people have different tolerance levels for discussion.

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Azint wrote...

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If this thread obsessed half as much about Shala'Raan, the world would be a better place.

Why don't you initiate the new phase?

HA!  Too busy with other stuff.  Maybe some day.

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Lividity Jones wrote...

Short version? Paranoia.

Long version? Reckoning is a very stressful project, for both of us. We're putting alot of ourselves into it and we're paranoid about just about every little detail. I'm a little on edge, to say the least.

You are aware that there is nothing wrong with taking breaks from any given project?

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Lividity Jones wrote...
Long version? Reckoning is a very stressful project, for both of us. We're putting alot of ourselves into it and we're paranoid about just about every little detail. I'm a little on edge, to say the least.

Do you want some commentary about the latest chapter?

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My whole problem with it is if I get involved in a political "discussion". I'm liable to get myself band because I get to heated and involved.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...
Long version? Reckoning is a very stressful project, for both of us. We're putting alot of ourselves into it and we're paranoid about just about every little detail. I'm a little on edge, to say the least.

Do you want some commentary about the latest chapter?


Honestly, yes, but I'm absolutely terrified of what you'll say.

Go for it.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

HA!  Too busy with other stuff.  Maybe some day.

I was Xenmancing before it became popular, and now I had two others do most of the work for me. How would you approach it?

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Even'n Tali thread.

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I see ME2 as standalone because no matter what happened in ME1, how you play ME2 doesn't change.  You still die, then recruit 4 people, go to Horizon, etc.  The surrounding environment is all that changes.  You expect two different games, one where you go off to broker peace between the geth/quarians, and one where you choose a side to help in war based on what happened before?  Bioware just doesn't have that option.  They need to keep the game at least manageable.

What it really boils down to is what was meant by ME3 being standalone. It's nebulous.

The geth/quarian conflict needs resolved in ME3, pidgeonholing you into one solution is hardly being standalone.  Maybe the actions you describe help facilitate or hinder you in ME3, but I can't see them crossing off the option completely.  The actions have to show up in one form or another, but I don't see messing up the reclamation effort as where they pop up.  The geth still don't need the planet at all, and the quarians still just need to know the geth are open to diplomacy.

We'll end up seeing in ME3. They did express their wishes to "go all out" and make an entangled mass of branching plots. If nothing else, that makes me more hopeful that my choices in ME1 and ME2 will matter.


The Geth took long enough to contact organics as it is. If they first and only time they even bothered talking to them ends in failure, do you really think they are going to try again, given how long it took them in the first place? No. Legion was one of a kind. If he's destroyed or given to Cerberus (an organization which is far from the best representation of organics)...The Geth aren't really about second chances. They are logical.


One question I have, would the geth know whether or not Legion got killed by husks on the reaper or sent to Cerberus?  That could be important, and I'm not sure what the answer is.

That is a good point. Although they could reasonably assume that if Legion did not send any data back to the Geth for a long time, that Legion was either destroyed or otherwise in danger. Legion is able to send data back to the Geth from the Normandy, that's for certain.

Assuming they know the fate, why would it be enough to stop them?  Its not like its a ridiculous amount of resources to make a single geth.  The only reason they didn't do it sooner was because of their isolationism, with that gone, the door is open to communication.  From communication comes results.
Second chances or not, logically, getting a race to stop trying
to erradicate you is a good move, if you need to rebuild a geth to do
that, its hardly a problem.

Geth are logical. If their first endeavor ends in failure, I really doubt they are going to bother again. It would be seen as a waste of resources, a waste of time.

@bolded: Heh. The Geth didn' seem to have that mantra for the past 300 years.

I go back to the multiple endings thing.  Surely its easy to see how a peaceful ending is possible given that you didn't screw up.  Are they going to make it impossible anyway because of the people who did screw up?  I know people really want their decisions to matter, but it seems much more likely to me that if both options are available in ME3, then actions in ME3 can lead to both results.

This is one thing that is for certain: a happy ending will be possible with any Shepard. Meaning, the Reapers won't eat everyone invariably even if your Shepard made all of the "wrong" decisions in ME1 and ME2. I don't think retaking Rannoch has to be part of a "happy ending." Simply winning against the Reapers is basically happy enough.

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Tali needs more poetry and less politics!

The quarian Pounce, a graceful move,
 and one that works as she can prove.
It has the range, as you can see,
 from close abreast to meters three.
No defense is known, at least not yet,
 so worry well you poor bosh'tet!

Now, who's got the picture?

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Honestly, yes, but I'm absolutely terrified of what you'll say.

Go for it.

It is a little critical, so I can take it to PM, if you want.

However!  I first should say that you guys are already doing stellar, so treat anything I say as just advice on how to take it up another notch.

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Azint wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Just asking Collider's opinion, since apparently incompetent and negligent leaders of a galaxy-spanning governmental body are acceptable.

True, disposing them is unrealistic considering the Reapers, but does that mean we have to content with the fact that the Council has not ruled as it should?

That the galaxy deserves better than the Council's policies of non-involvement?

Regardless of personal views, the Council is still an important asset. They rule over a galactic civilization, and have done so for a long time. Like Udina, you dislike them and how they operate, but they actually do their jobs and for the most part, you do benefit from what they provide. The arguement being thrown around is how much they care for the quarians. I already stated that they likely do have the quarians on their agenda, but they have not actually treated the problem yet.

I personally think that some people are having the Council's treatment of the Quarians colors their arguments. The Council acted erroneously, but they are not as bad as Cerberus as some people claim.