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[Someone With Mass]

Lividity Jones wrote...
Short version? Paranoia.

Long version? Reckoning is a very stressful project, for both of us. We're putting alot of ourselves into it and we're paranoid about just about every little detail. I'm a little on edge, to say the least.

Just so you know, there's no one who's forcing you to work on it 24/7.

Take a break if you need one. Rushed out things are usually the half-assed ones.

Top.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 05 juillet 2010 - 11:02 .

[NuclearBuddha]

Azint wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

HA!  Too busy with other stuff.  Maybe some day.

I was Xenmancing before it became popular, and now I had two others do most of the work for me. How would you approach it?

What, my theoretical Shala'Raan fic?  Or the Xen issue?

[Lividity Jones]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...
Honestly, yes, but I'm absolutely terrified of what you'll say.

Go for it.

It is a little critical, so I can take it to PM, if you want.

However!  I first should say that you guys are already doing stellar, so treat anything I say as just advice on how to take it up another notch.

Very well, PM if you feel so inclined.

Hit me.

[TheAwesomologist]

Calinstel wrote...

Tali needs more poetry and less politics!

The quarian Pounce, a graceful move,
 and one that works as she can prove.
It has the range, as you can see,
 from close abreast to meters three.
No defense is known, at least not yet,
 so worry well you poor bosh'tet!

Now, who's got the picture?

Must be from hanging out with nephews this weekend, but I read that with Tigger's voice.

[Collider]

huntrrz wrote...
Tali's dialog regarding Quarian immune systems.  Before they were confined to the fleet, they adapted readily to new environments - their systems were designed to tolerate external viruses and pollens, adjusting after a period of alergic reaction.

She says that on certain planets they did - but they ended up dying or getting sick anyway. The Quarian immune system being biologically and inherently weak is a fact. They are still able to build up antibodies, but it's at a much lesser extent than the other races.

Presumably, the fact that they have been unable to colonize any planets after the Morning War also means that they only stuck in one place. I don't think that would plausibly make for an empire large enough to threaten the Council, or scare them.

And I hope I have explained above why they could expand and why it mattered (at the time).

We've been given indication that most of the planets that other species live on are not hospitable to the Quarians.

[Phil725]

I think we're at an impass for the first conversation, depending on how much ME2 affects the plot in ME3.  So I'll drop that one.  I see reclaiming Rannoch as inevitable, but obviously I have no proof.

That is a good point. Although they could reasonably assume that if Legion did not send any data back to the Geth for a long time, that Legion was either destroyed or otherwise in danger. Legion is able to send data back to the Geth from the Normandy, that's for certain.

Now that I think about it, he wouldn't be "alive" after taking a punch from the husk and going straight to Cerberus, unless they turned him on and let him broadcast (doubtful,) so I don't see Cerberus affecting anything.  In that case, I see the geth assuming that he got lost in transport more or less.  In that case, a second attempt is definitely worth it.

If he dies on the suicide mission, he's gotten his ideas out at least.

Geth are logical. If their first endeavor ends in failure, I really doubt they are going to bother again. It would be seen as a waste of resources, a waste of time.

Logically, what use do the geth have for resources or time?  It can't be that difficult to build a single geth, its like mailing a second letter because your first didn't arrive.  Out of all of the possible pitfalls in the series of events, not wanting to build a second messenger is way down the list.

@bolded: Heh. The Geth didn' seem to have that mantra for the past 300 years.

Which is likely exactly why they changed in ME2.  Why go back to accomplishing nothing?  They've crossed a peak of knowledge that reaching out to others facilitates isolationism more than the opposite.

Modifié par Phil725, 05 juillet 2010 - 11:09 .

[huntrrz]

Collider wrote...

huntrrz wrote...
Tali's dialog regarding Quarian immune systems.  Before they were confined to the fleet, they adapted readily to new environments - their systems were designed to tolerate external viruses and pollens, adjusting after a period of alergic reaction.

She says that on certain planets they did - but they ended up dying or getting sick anyway.

I don't recall that.  Cite, please.

Presumably, the fact that they have been unable to colonize any planets after the Morning War also means that they only stuck in one place. I don't think that would plausibly make for an empire large enough to threaten the Council, or scare them. ...

Sure, but that's after the exile.  They may not have attempted to colonize (hoping to regain the homeworld) until after their immune systems had been compromised by life on the fleet.

As to having an 'empire', I haven't argued for that, and the only 'threat' to the Council I suggested is that they were another party the Council might have to share power with.

[SpatFieya]

SenHai wrote...

Mhmmmmmm.....Tuna salad!

Steak sandwich. 

[Collider]

huntrrz wrote...

Collider wrote...

huntrrz wrote...
Tali's dialog regarding Quarian immune systems.  Before they were confined to the fleet, they adapted readily to new environments - their systems were designed to tolerate external viruses and pollens, adjusting after a period of alergic reaction.

She says that on certain planets they did - but they ended up dying or getting sick anyway.

I don't recall that.  Cite, please.

Talk to Tali again.

[NuclearBuddha]

Collider wrote...

huntrrz wrote...

Collider wrote...

huntrrz wrote...
Tali's dialog regarding Quarian immune systems.  Before they were confined to the fleet, they adapted readily to new environments - their systems were designed to tolerate external viruses and pollens, adjusting after a period of alergic reaction.

She says that on certain planets they did - but they ended up dying or getting sick anyway.

I don't recall that.  Cite, please.

Talk to Tali again.

As I recall, she says they got sick, but it was just a period of adjustment.  I don't know that it was life-threatening.  However, even this is going to slow down colonization.

That and dextro planets seem to be the minority.

[Andaius20]

Tali doesn't like rude Volus!

[Phil725]

SenHai wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

As I recall, she says they got sick, but it was just a period of adjustment.  I don't know that it was life-threatening.  However, even this is going to slow down colonization.

That and dextro planets seem to be the minority.

Yeah she says they adjusted and that they didn't get really sick at all. I have no idea where Collider heard it was impossible even before the morning war.


I know you didn't mean impossible but that some where harder to adapt than others. From how Tali says it quarians had fairly good imune systems until after the morining war.

The way I understood it, given that they grow up creating antibodies, they didn't even need suits for places like the Citadel or random planets.  Not sure if that's supported anywhere though.

[Leftnt Sharpe]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Collider wrote...

huntrrz wrote...

Collider wrote...

huntrrz wrote...
Tali's dialog regarding Quarian immune systems.  Before they were confined to the fleet, they adapted readily to new environments - their systems were designed to tolerate external viruses and pollens, adjusting after a period of alergic reaction.

She says that on certain planets they did - but they ended up dying or getting sick anyway.

I don't recall that.  Cite, please.

Talk to Tali again.

As I recall, she says they got sick, but it was just a period of adjustment.  I don't know that it was life-threatening.  However, even this is going to slow down colonization.

That and dextro planets seem to be the minority.

I imagine the Turians have first dibs on any dextro planets that get found too.

[Alphyn]

I guess I'll be writin' part 8 now, then.



Be done a little while.

[Titanium Man]

Alphyn wrote...

I guess I'll be writin' part 8 now, then.

Be done a little while.

That reminds me that I've been putting off writing Smile for a few days now.  I have a tough time getting myself to get moving on a project outside of my normal work.

[Andaius20]

Yes thats what I recall too. Period of adjustment then they are fine. Not life threatening. They only lost all there colonies because they had Geth on all there colonies. There Immume systems only became "terminal" after the exodus. AKA when she mentions "life on the flotilla destroyed are immune systems adaptive ability."