Ce sujet est fermé
Ryshan wrote...
NuclearBuddha wrote...
Philip K. Dick reference.Ormagodenator wrote...
......what?Titanium Man wrote...
Do geth dream of electric varren?
Thank you for telling them.
Modifié par Orion1836, 08 juillet 2010 - 02:28 .
Kikaimegami wrote...
Actually, what I meant by that is that people are arguing you have to be more than sapient to be considered important enough for moral values to be applicable to you.
They ain't perfect either. They need to extend a hand in peace.Just_mike wrote...
I wish humans were all as understanding as the Real Geth are.
Legion is really the only example of "a" Geth. Geth operate very differently from humans. It is therefore that I cannot really place them on the same status. Especially since there is literally nothing analogous to the Geth-Organic debate on earth. I have very little to base things upon that are grounded in reality.Pacifien wrote...
I get into Geth debates often. I purposely avoid getting into the definition of what is life. The real question is whether or not a synthetic can be viewed on the same level as an organic. To some people, a machine will always be a machine no matter how close it can simulate feelings or soul. I would not describe Geth as living as a human does, but I will still hold them on equal status as one.NuclearBuddha wrote...
This whole thing treads too close to the "what is life" question, which gets ugly fast. The quarians are more likely than other races to regard synthetics as "people" so that's the line I tend to apply.
LegendaryAvenger wrote...
"Life has no meaning"Collider wrote...
You tell me, Rip. Give me a definition for life.RiptideX1090 wrote...
The geth do not want to die.
Does that not constitute life?
if it can think it's aliveCollider wrote...
You tell me, Rip. Give me a definition for life.RiptideX1090 wrote...
The geth do not want to die.
Does that not constitute life?
Collider wrote...
You tell me, Rip. Give me a definition for life.RiptideX1090 wrote...
The geth do not want to die.
Does that not constitute life?
NuclearBuddha wrote...
No problem. I like the movie more than the book, though.Ryshan wrote...
Thank you for telling them.NuclearBuddha wrote...
Philip K. Dick reference.Ormagodenator wrote...
......what?Titanium Man wrote...
Do geth dream of electric varren?
Would we still be human?Just_mike wrote...
I wish humans were all as understanding as the Real Geth are.Pacifien wrote...
I get into Geth debates often. I purposely avoid getting into the definition of what is life. The real question is whether or not a synthetic can be viewed on the same level as an organic. To some people, a machine will always be a machine no matter how close it can simulate feelings or soul. I would not describe Geth as living as a human does, but I will still hold them on equal status as one.NuclearBuddha wrote...
This whole thing treads too close to the "what is life" question, which gets ugly fast. The quarians are more likely than other races to regard synthetics as "people" so that's the line I tend to apply.
NuclearBuddha wrote...
They ain't perfect either. They need to extend a hand in peace.Just_mike wrote...
I wish humans were all as understanding as the Real Geth are.
Ever read the Jeter sequels?Ryshan wrote...
I'll admit, the book is slow at times, yes.
Collider wrote...
Would we still be human?Just_mike wrote...
I wish humans were all as understanding as the Real Geth are.Pacifien wrote...
I get into Geth debates often. I purposely avoid getting into the definition of what is life. The real question is whether or not a synthetic can be viewed on the same level as an organic. To some people, a machine will always be a machine no matter how close it can simulate feelings or soul. I would not describe Geth as living as a human does, but I will still hold them on equal status as one.NuclearBuddha wrote...
This whole thing treads too close to the "what is life" question, which gets ugly fast. The quarians are more likely than other races to regard synthetics as "people" so that's the line I tend to apply.
in a way the superstructure actually will make the geth an individual as all of them will be sharing processes simultaneously in one body. One mind many parts, and now in a single vessel.Collider wrote...
The Geth do not want to become individuals. Their hope of building the Dyson Sphere, if you ask me, will make them even less individualistic than they already are. They are fundamentally different from organic life. I think that Legion makes the point that because of this, the Geth and Organic Races are not on the same level and should not be judged in the same way.
Mozer121 wrote...
Geth are machines programed to simulate emotions. Just because something can speak and think does not necessarily mean it's a living being. Modern computers can think processes and VI programs can speak when offered the correct inquiry.
Jews and Africans does little to support your opinion by the way since they are living beings and not mechanisms.
Define kill. Heh, I can do this all day.Just_mike wrote...
To me, life is anything that can be killed. If it cant be killed, it is not alive.LegendaryAvenger wrote...
"Life has no meaning"Collider wrote...
You tell me, Rip. Give me a definition for life.RiptideX1090 wrote...
The geth do not want to die.
Does that not constitute life?
Well, would you then place the Geth collective on the same status as a hive civilization?Collider wrote...
Legion is really the only example of "a" Geth. Geth operate very differently from humans. It is therefore that I cannot really place them on the same status. Especially since there is literally nothing analogous to the Geth-Organic debate on earth. I have very little to base things upon that are grounded in reality.
I'm starting to figure out this a is a very 'grey' subject. I don't want to sound like I blindly hate the Geth because they are different or synthetic. I do not harbor such emotions. Just that if I had to pick between synthetic or organic, it would be organic.Azint wrote...
That's the thing; the geth are not like that. They will never be like that, they never cared to be like that. The geth have achieved becoming a race based on their own features, as machines. They are different.SpatFieya wrote...
Once a Geth can bear a child, cry over a lost love, and have the feelings of intimacy, and simply become an individual, I'll agree.
There is a lot of "they are different, they are inferior" going on here.
And is that not the basis of racism?
Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 08 juillet 2010 - 02:30 .
I don't have one. Like I said, these debates aren't really grounded in reality. It's dealing with completely fictional stuff. We can barely even get robots to walk as a human would right now.RiptideX1090 wrote...
Collider wrote...
You tell me, Rip. Give me a definition for life.RiptideX1090 wrote...
The geth do not want to die.
Does that not constitute life?
I decide I am alive.
What is your definition?
Retour en haut