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[cannedcream]

Azint wrote...

For the most part, I am paragon. But I do accumilate quite a lot of renegade points.

Some people need to know their savior will not take any further nonsense. He will act against it.

Azint is a just, but vengeful god.

[RedTracer7]

Azint wrote...

Collider wrote...

Azint wrote...
It's not easy being a messiah.

According to the polls, paragons are a dying breed. My Shep is going to restore that.

I tend to think that Shepards that are not at one extreme or another are more interesting and complex. Heroic Action Hero wears thin after a while. Could just be me, though.

For the most part, I am paragon. But I do accumilate quite a lot of renegade points.

Some people need to know their savior will not take any further nonsense. He will act against it.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ****s and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"...and I'll look down, and whisper "No."

[Azint]

Collider wrote...

did he ever really object to that fact? I thought he was proud of it.

I already explained my thoughts on Grunt. He does not want to be used as a tool to further the goals of Okeer, a father who wants a soldier. Grunt wants to fight for his own cause, he wants to fight because he wants to, not because that is his function.

[Collider]

cannedcream wrote...

Collider wrote...

Azint wrote...
It's not easy being a messiah.
According to the polls, paragons are a dying breed. My Shep is going to restore that.

I tend to think that Shepards that are not at one extreme or another are more interesting and complex. Heroic Action Hero wears thin after a while. Could just be me, though.

Not just you. I used to play as PURE PARAGON, but I always found that a little boring and stiff. I've had a lot more fun as a paragade. Yes, my Shepard is still a 'goodguy' who tries to save lives whenever possible, but he's not 'mr. nice guy' to everyone. Give him a reason to shoot, and he probably will.
Basically I play him as the type of guy you'd love to have for a friend, but would fear as an enemy.

As do I. It's a lot more fun that way. I think I ended up with 65% Paragon, 35% renegade in ME2. I unfortunately missed the intimidate option during Tali's trial, but I'm thinking about whether I want her exiled or not. My F!Shepard is supposed to do some of the options I took as my M!Shepard opposite, so I'm wondering which of those two Shepards I'm going to have Tali exiled or not.

[Collider]

Then again, ME2 seems to treat paragon a little different than ME1.

No kidding. Shepard telling Mordin that he's an immoral monster was a bit much.

[Azint]

Most renegade interrupts are way too tempting to pass up. I could gun down Elnora, Pulp Fiction stlye, all day.

[NuclearBuddha]

As for the possibility of Tali's exile, I fear I'll just have to hear about the results or youtube it come ME3.



The whole situation is just wrong to me.

[NuclearBuddha]

Azint wrote...
Most renegade interrupts are way too tempting to pass up. I could gun down Elnora, Pulp Fiction stlye, all day.

Get in line.

[cannedcream]

RedTracer7 wrote...



The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ****s and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"...and I'll look down, and whisper "No." "Tunnel Snakes rule."

REDTRACER7!!!!!!!!!!!

. . . You're awesome.

[CptSkull]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

RedTracer7 wrote...
I think it really depends more on how you see it.  My Shepard, an Earthborth Ruthless mother****er with an unrelenting bloodlust, also has a soft side for a certain quarian.  She calms the fire that burns within him; a fire that normally requires destruction and chaos to quell.  I also play as Pro-human as possible, but I won't get into that...

You know, in ME1 I was pretty pro-human.  The simpering sucking up to the UN Council sickened me.  I told Terra First I supported them (I still do:  the keep humanity strong part, not the racism part).  I saved the Council, though, because I figured it would serve humanity far better than a naked and unpopular power-grab.  I thought long and hard about sacrificing human lives for those douchebags, though.

Maybe I got older or stupider or something because by ME2 I was paragon across the board and while I still think the Council is useless, I can see the purpose they serve.

Then again, ME2 seems to treat paragon a little different than ME1.

Edit:  and I almost forgot the comment I wanted to make RE your Shep.  Every sword needs a sheath or it just ends up cutting the user.

Yeah, but the Council still treat you like a hobo with sign saying "The end is near."

[SpatFieya]

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Then again, ME2 seems to treat paragon a little different than ME1.

It kind of bothered me that during Legion's mission, that at first Paragon Shepard is like "No, I will not brain wash anyone's race." and then when it comes to doing the actual deed, he changes his mind and does it. 

Probably not something meant to be deep, but I found it interesting that a man so strong in his morals, can question himself and what he even believes is right. When you think about it, that's the first time that has ever happened. 

[Collider]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

As for the possibility of Tali's exile, I fear I'll just have to hear about the results or youtube it come ME3.

The whole situation is just wrong to me.

You too? I think having her exonerated is the safest choice, but I could see some downsides from not having her exiled though. And who knows which one may be the most "romantic" of the two down the road.

[NuclearBuddha]

CptSkull wrote...
Yeah, but the Council still treat you like a hobo with sign saying "The end is near."

And the human council treats you like you've got the plague.  What's your point?

[Collider]

SpatFieya wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
Then again, ME2 seems to treat paragon a little different than ME1.

It kind of bothered me that during Legion's mission, that at first Paragon Shepard is like "No, I will not brain wash anyone's race." and then when it comes to doing the actual deed, he changes his mind and does it.

I noticed that as well. It's very strange.

[Azint]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

You know, in ME1 I was pretty pro-human.  The simpering sucking up to the UN Council sickened me.  I told Terra First I supported them (I still do:  the keep humanity strong part, not the racism part).  I saved the Council, though, because I figured it would serve humanity far better than a naked and unpopular power-grab.  I thought long and hard about sacrificing human lives for those douchebags, though.

Maybe I got older or stupider or something because by ME2 I was paragon across the board and while I still think the Council is useless, I can see the purpose they serve.

Then again, ME2 seems to treat paragon a little different than ME1.

Edit:  and I almost forgot the comment I wanted to make RE your Shep.  Every sword needs a sheath or it just ends up cutting the user.

The Council may not serve as useful to me, but they are still a vital part of the galactic community. Human lives were sacraficed because political stability is a necessity when reinstating a new foreign power- humanity.

[SpatFieya]

Collider wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

As for the possibility of Tali's exile, I fear I'll just have to hear about the results or youtube it come ME3.

The whole situation is just wrong to me.

You too? I think having her exonerated is the safest choice, but I could see some downsides from not having her exiled though. And who knows which one may be the most "romantic" of the two down the road.

I'll do what I did for both games. Play it through, then see what other actions I didn't take resulted in (via YouTube, community), if I like it better, I'll replay and change it. 

Main reason is because it gives me an excuse to play the entire game over again.

[Collider]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

CptSkull wrote...
Yeah, but the Council still treat you like a hobo with sign saying "The end is near."

And the human council treats you like you've got the plague.  What's your point?

That makes me wonder. Will he ever see the new councils in ME3? I'm inclined to think no, given their basic absence in ME2 in almost all fashions, but IDK. Default Shepard has the council dead. So default Shepards or Shepards who did not save the council will be unable to speak to any Citadel council whatsoever? Wouldn't that be missing out on a huge ally?

[RedTracer7]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

You know, in ME1 I was pretty pro-human.  The simpering sucking up to the UN Council sickened me.  I told Terra First I supported them (I still do:  the keep humanity strong part, not the racism part).  I saved the Council, though, because I figured it would serve humanity far better than a naked and unpopular power-grab.  I thought long and hard about sacrificing human lives for those douchebags, though.

Maybe I got older or stupider or something because by ME2 I was paragon across the board and while I still think the Council is useless, I can see the purpose they serve.

Then again, ME2 seems to treat paragon a little different than ME1.

Edit:  and I almost forgot the comment I wanted to make RE your Shep.  Every sword needs a sheath or it just ends up cutting the user.

I like to think that I live my life to the tune of Realpolitik, and as such I just can't bring myself to trust the council.  

In the long run, without a foe to fight, I could see my Shepard going rogue/crazy.  He thrives on conflict, on submitting others to his will.  Perhaps a martyr's death would be best for him... 

[cannedcream]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Azint wrote...
Most renegade interrupts are way too tempting to pass up. I could gun down Elnora, Pulp Fiction stlye, all day.

Get in line.

Or the speaker Clan Werlock. I love letting him get to the part about eating salarian babies, seeing the look on Mordin's face, and then- "You talk too much."

BOOM!

[CptSkull]

Collider wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

As for the possibility of Tali's exile, I fear I'll just have to hear about the results or youtube it come ME3.

The whole situation is just wrong to me.

You too? I think having her exonerated is the safest choice, but I could see some downsides from not having her exiled though. And who knows which one may be the most "romantic" of the two down the road.

The only thing worse that Tali being exciled is the video I showed, It was about Shepard betrying Tali.

[NuclearBuddha]

Collider wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...
As for the possibility of Tali's exile, I fear I'll just have to hear about the results or youtube it come ME3.

The whole situation is just wrong to me.

You too? I think having her exonerated is the safest choice, but I could see some downsides from not having her exiled though. And who knows which one may be the most "romantic" of the two down the road.

When three out of five options result in a happy ending, and there is a paragon/neutral/and renegade way to get there, it seems to suggest something.

Not really.  A non-exiled Tali actually makes a choice to be with Shepard.  An exiled Tali has no choice.

[Collider]

SpatFieya wrote...

Collider wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

As for the possibility of Tali's exile, I fear I'll just have to hear about the results or youtube it come ME3.

The whole situation is just wrong to me.

You too? I think having her exonerated is the safest choice, but I could see some downsides from not having her exiled though. And who knows which one may be the most "romantic" of the two down the road.

I'll do what I did for both games. Play it through, then see what other actions I didn't take resulted in (via YouTube, community), if I like it better, I'll replay and change it. 

Main reason is because it gives me an excuse to play the entire game over again.

I roleplay my Shepards. Well, at least my canon one. I make the decisions "I" would take. Problem is, I could conceivably see myself simply saying "no" at the trial when asked if evidence was found, or instead shouting at them in defense of Tali all the same. So I am still undecided.

[Azint]

cannedcream wrote...

Azint is a just, but vengeful god.

For some reason that reminded me of this.

[CptSkull]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

CptSkull wrote...
Yeah, but the Council still treat you like a hobo with sign saying "The end is near."

And the human council treats you like you've got the plague.  What's your point?

Both are A-holes.

[Orion1836]

I play pure Paragon, but it seems even the Upper Right options can still net you some Renegade points in ME2. That's fine by me... no one is perfect, but my Shepard is a Boy Scout to the max extent possible. As a Spacer/War Hero, that's just what he was taught from childhood on.

I actually view the Spacer background as not too different from Quarians growing up on the Flotilla. Service before Self. Duty, Honor, Country Fleet. Etc., Etc.