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[Pacifien]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...
Actually not a bad theory. If they sat down and talked I'm sure there would be similarities. In this case I think Miranda was probably worse off. Tali's father was distant and cold, but clearly had some feeling for his daughter. Miranda's father literally saw her as a disposable tool.

Tali also had the benefit of having her mother and Shala'Raan for actual love and support.

[Ryshan]

Inserting generic fan-sketch here.

[nitefyre410]

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michaelrsa wrote...


This is exactly why I play pure Paragon. I want to be know as a guy who does not put human interests first. I put the ****ing galaxy's interests first.

  

I play pure paragon , Renegade  Shepherd does  things that make NO damn sense what so ever and just ****** me off .  Now I did leave the council to die in the first game but hey it was snap choice the lives of the  billions  versus the lives of the 10,000. That was only Para/Renagade choice that  puts in a tough position . 

[Someone With Mass]

Thelacan wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I've said this many times, and it's probably never going to happen, but I would like an expansion that shows what would've happened if I choosed to go with Tali to the flotilla instead of Mr and Mrs Bland. (Jacob and Miranda)

No Tali-loving on the Normandy, that's for sure. C'mon, think about it. How well do the other quarians know the humans, or Shepard? Small evidence to show that human colonies are under attack, not going to be the Flotilla's problem.

I'd rather make some Tali-love in a cramped and dirty space aboard the Rayya, than subjecting myself to the idiots aboard the Normandy.

And there are other ways to gather information.

If Cerberus can, then so can I.

And the quarians' opinion on humans isn't that harsh actually, if you read Acsension. They were shipping supplies to the Idenna from the whole fleet just because three humans came aboard.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 08 juillet 2010 - 03:18 .

[Thelacan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'd rather make some Tali-love in a cramped and dirty space aboard the Rayya, than subjecting myself to the idiots aboard the Normandy.

And there are other ways to gather information.

If Cerberus can, then so can I.

And the quarians' opinion on humans isn't that harsh actually, if you read Acsension. They were shipping supplies to the Idenna from the whole fleet just because three humans came aboard.

But would quarians let Shep commence the Tali-love? I mean at that point Rael would still be alive.

Information, yes, but taking on a collector vessel with a century old, scavenged frigate? Not a chance. Face it, trying to go with Tali (associated with Cerberus at the moment) would have ended in utter destruction of galaxy from the reapers.

And I think the opinion about humans changed after Cerberus happened on Idenna.

[Tairis Deamhan]

Pacifien wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...
Actually not a bad theory. If they sat down and talked I'm sure there would be similarities. In this case I think Miranda was probably worse off. Tali's father was distant and cold, but clearly had some feeling for his daughter. Miranda's father literally saw her as a disposable tool.

Tali also had the benefit of having her mother and Shala'Raan for actual love and support.

Very true. One of the things that actually always confused me with Tali's dialogue and romance is how little she talks about her mother. You'd think she had died when she was very young from how little she is referenced, but Tali was 16 when she died according to Tali's own dialogue.

[NuclearBuddha]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...
Very true. One of the things that actually always confused me with Tali's dialogue and romance is how little she talks about her mother. You'd think she had died when she was very young from how little she is referenced, but Tali was 16 when she died according to Tali's own dialogue.

People appreciate the approval that's harder to get.  If her mother's love was unconditional, she'd probably still be more concerned about pleasing her father.

[Tairis Deamhan]

Okay, I am not a fan of Cerberus but everyone on the Normandy seems loyal to Shepard without question. And while the Illusive Man is a dick and probably firmly in the 'Lawful Evil' D&D spectrum, the idea of running off to join the Flotilla is just dumb.

The Flotilla can't supply Shepard with the best intelligence, funding, and a state of the art warship capable of going toe to toe with an enemy vessel of ancient technology.

Don't agree with Cerberus' methods? Fine. But Desperate times call foe desperate measures and strange allies.

Modifié par Tairis Deamhan, 08 juillet 2010 - 03:30 .

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Dragon Age 2!!!

[Thelacan]

As in, you want something you can't get.

[nitefyre410]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Thelacan wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I've said this many times, and it's probably never going to happen, but I would like an expansion that shows what would've happened if I choosed to go with Tali to the flotilla instead of Mr and Mrs Bland. (Jacob and Miranda)

No Tali-loving on the Normandy, that's for sure. C'mon, think about it. How well do the other quarians know the humans, or Shepard? Small evidence to show that human colonies are under attack, not going to be the Flotilla's problem.

I'd rather make some Tali-love in a cramped and dirty space aboard the Rayya, than subjecting myself to the idiots aboard the Normandy.

And there are other ways to gather information.

If Cerberus can, then so can I.

And the quarians' opinion on humans isn't that harsh actually, if you read Acsension. They were shipping supplies to the Idenna from the whole fleet just because three humans came aboard.

   

****  There  is this pleanty of Tali-loving, banging, riding, grinding going on my Normandy i say let 'em watch I just give em a show and they might lean something   useful for a change...    


All with the proper imino-boosters, antibiotics, shots and protection  of course safety always comes first  

[NuclearBuddha]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...
Okay, I am not a fan of Cerberus but everyone on the Normandy seems loyal to Shepard without question. And while the Illusive Man is a dick and probably firmly in the 'Lawful Evil' D&D spectrum, the idea of running off to join the Flotilla is just dumb.

The Flotilla can't supply Shepard with the best intelligence, funding, and a state of the art warship capable of going toe to toe with an enemy vessel of ancient technology.

Don't agree with Cerberus' methods? Fine. But Desperate times call foe desperate measures and strange allies.

I intend to make the Illusive Man wonder if resurrecting Shep was worth it.  He's probably not going to enjoy living with a conscience he just can't get rid of.

[nitefyre410]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Okay, I am not a fan of Cerberus but everyone on the Normandy seems loyal to Shepard without question. And while the Illusive Man is a dick and probably firmly in the 'Lawful Evil' D&D spectrum, the idea of running off to join the Flotilla is just dumb.

The Flotilla can't supply Shepard with the best intelligence, funding, and a state of the art warship capable of going toe to toe with an enemy vessel of ancient technology.

Don't agree with Cerberus' methods? Fine. But Desperate times call foe desperate measures and strange allies.

  

your  are full of win  ... What this man said kiddies ^^^^ 

[Thelacan]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I intend to make the Illusive Man wonder if resurrecting Shep was worth it.  He's probably not going to enjoy living with a conscience he just can't get rid of.

Hmmm... When thinking about it, if Shep doesn't destroy Cerberus in the process while repelling the reapers and unifying the galaxy, TIM wouln't mind it. He would rage at first, but come to terms with it, starting to plan some new devious plots how to make humanity superior, just waiting untill Shep wouldn't be an oppose to his plans.

[NuclearBuddha]

Thelacan wrote...
Hmmm... When thinking about it, if Shep doesn't destroy Cerberus in the process while repelling the reapers and unifying the galaxy, TIM wouln't mind it. He would rage at first, but come to terms with it, starting to plan some new devious plots how to make humanity superior, just waiting untill Shep wouldn't be an oppose to his plans.

He's welcome to try to do so, as long as he's using Cerberus' resources toward productive, non-mad-science ends in the meantime.

After all, humanity does need people to do the dirty work.  The Council has the Spectres, the Salarians have the STG, the asari have their commandos, why not us, too?

[nitefyre410]

Thelacan wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

I intend to make the Illusive Man wonder if resurrecting Shep was worth it.  He's probably not going to enjoy living with a conscience he just can't get rid of.

Hmmm... When thinking about it, if Shep doesn't destroy Cerberus in the process while repelling the reapers and unifying the galaxy, TIM wouln't mind it. He would rage at first, but come to terms with it, starting to plan some new devious plots how to make humanity superior, just waiting untill Shep wouldn't be an oppose to his plans.

  

Why  destroy  Cerberus when i can take it over and use against as force against the Reapers... Yeah i will have to put some bullets in some knee caps maybe a head  or two  but eventually they  will get  in line... if not I'll just  get Jack on em.   

Just because i am  Chaotic Good Paragon were nice guys but make or own rules. 

[Thelacan]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

After all, humanity does need people to do the dirty work.  The Council has the Spectres, the Salarians have the STG, the asari have their commandos, why not us, too?

Indeed.
Didn't Kahoku mention, that Cerberus was Alliance black ops, just gone "rogue"? Either it was the truth or rumor surrounding their origins. But there is a lot of potential in the background of Cerb.

[NuclearBuddha]

Thelacan wrote...
Indeed.
Didn't Kahoku mention, that Cerberus was Alliance black ops, just gone "rogue"? Either it was the truth or rumor surrounding their origins. But there is a lot of potential in the background of Cerb.

Yeah, I think the idea is that Cerberus is a rogue group.  Really rogue or just deniable seems to be the real question, considering they're so dialed-in on what the Alliance is up to (getting the Normandy built, etc.).

[Karimloo]

Over 9000 ****ing pages.



You people scare the **** out of me.



I LIKE IT!

[Someone With Mass]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Thelacan wrote...
Hmmm... When thinking about it, if Shep doesn't destroy Cerberus in the process while repelling the reapers and unifying the galaxy, TIM wouln't mind it. He would rage at first, but come to terms with it, starting to plan some new devious plots how to make humanity superior, just waiting untill Shep wouldn't be an oppose to his plans.

He's welcome to try to do so, as long as he's using Cerberus' resources toward productive, non-mad-science ends in the meantime.

After all, humanity does need people to do the dirty work.  The Council has the Spectres, the Salarians have the STG, the asari have their commandos, why not us, too?

That's not helping so much when Cerberus caused the problems.

No, if we're going to have a spec-ops group, they should be more official, not be branded terrorists, efficent with their work and be more resonable with their actions than can affect more than just themselves.

Pretty much the opposite of Cerberus.

[Thelacan]

Being black ops would be plausible, as Jacob did some corsair work for Alliance. And when considering how humans tend to favor such black op-groups even in present time.

The secret society, inner circle, etc.

[Thelacan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

No, if we're going to have a spec-ops group, they should be more official, not be branded terrorists, efficent with their work and be more resonable with their actions than can affect more than just themselves.

Pretty much the opposite of Cerberus.

N7 is one of the many spec ops the Alliance has.

But black ops? Totally different thing. They are there to do the dirty work, to be the ruthless' ones.

[Pacifien]

I'm reminded of the Renegade mission from ME1 where Admiral Hackett sends Shepard to "negotiate" with the expectation that Shepard takes that to mean "negotiate with extreme measure and deadliness." The Alliance isn't above their own dirty work behind the scenes.

The difference is that I don't think Admiral Hackett is using Shepard on his own personal crusade to eliminate threats without any discussion among other military officers. In Cerberus, you answer to one man and his vision alone: the Illusive Man. The other special-ops groups we've seen at least work under the pretense of their respective governments as a whole. Not to mention the Council seems to make use of them as well: rather than use another Spectre, they used the STG for Virmire.

[Karimloo]

Thelacan wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

No, if we're going to have a spec-ops group, they should be more official, not be branded terrorists, efficent with their work and be more resonable with their actions than can affect more than just themselves.

Pretty much the opposite of Cerberus.

N7 is one of the many spec ops the Alliance has.

But black ops? Totally different thing. They are there to do the dirty work, to be the ruthless' ones.

"You see that Hind?!! We're GOING TO TAKE IT!"

Modifié par Karimloo, 08 juillet 2010 - 03:58 .

[NuclearBuddha]

Someone With Mass wrote...
That's not helping so much when Cerberus caused the problems.

No, if we're going to have a spec-ops group, they should be more official, not be branded terrorists, efficent with their work and be more resonable with their actions than can affect more than just themselves.

Pretty much the opposite of Cerberus.

Here's the thing:  Cerberus' main terrorist actions are causing industrial accidents that create the biotics that the Alliance military needs.

The Alliance certainly can't condone that kind of activity, even by failing to condemn it.  But it certainly seems to serve their purposes...