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[Pacifien]

Garrus's loyalty mission has two heavy mechs attack you at once. Tali's does not. Unless you're an Infiltrator, this makes Tali's loyalty mission better.

[FsDxRAGE]

I almost missed the paragon hug when I was taking a sip of Dr. Pepper my first play through

[Titanium Man]

Pacifien wrote...

Garrus's loyalty mission has two heavy mechs attack you at once. Tali's does not. Unless you're an Infiltrator, this makes Tali's loyalty mission better.

This is also a good point.  Those mechs almost massacred me, since my only strategy consists of "FOR JIHAAAAD"

[Orion1836]

kglaser wrote...

Please to be forgiving this, if posted recently. I swear, I can't keep up with this thread.

That picture is 19 shades of awesome!

Too bad Shepard can't dance worth a damn.

[FsDxRAGE]

Tali dancing in that pic is so freaking adorable

[RiptideX1090]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Tali dancing in that pic is so freaking adorable

Tali's being cute, and Garrus is being a ****ing badass.

'nuff said.

[huntrrz]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

The Prothean statues and the Collectors don't exactly match up. I'd assume that was a transformation that took after the main extermination.

I'm guessing there were Protheans with different physiologies based on their caste, like some insects on Earth.

[nickFury]

kglaser wrote...

Killing Mission = I stayed up all night IRL. srsly. BW had me in their grasp. /shakefist
But, let's discuss Tali (even tho' this might get me lynched, ahem)
My two fav. loyalty missions in ME2 are Garrus's and Tali's. It's a very close race for me.
Please to be convincing me that Tali's is better. (Leave the insults at home, please, if they are part of your arsenal.)
I love both missions!!

Im very nearly in the same boat as you, those are my two favorite loyalties and recruitment missions, the main thing that really tips the scale for me, besides Tali, is that there was much more development and dialogue on Tali's loyalty mission. This lent itself to a more emotional impact for me over Garrus's mission. Not saying that his didn't have it but it was far more rushed and seemed under developed I felt that BW could have and should have put more into it, but thats my opinion.

[RiptideX1090]

huntrrz wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

The Prothean statues and the Collectors don't exactly match up. I'd assume that was a transformation that took after the main extermination.

I'm guessing there were Protheans with different physiologies based on their caste, like some insects on Earth.

Or maybe the Reapers just REALLY did a number on them.

Humans and Scions look almost nothing alike. Imagine what hundred of years, or tens of thousands of genetic ****ing could do to you.

[kglaser]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Tali dancing in that pic is so freaking adorable

I always thought she looked so happy in that pic

[Titanium Man]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Tali dancing in that pic is so freaking adorable

All right, who's gonna write us a silly Tali/Shepard dance minific?

[kglaser]

nickFury wrote...

kglaser wrote...

Killing Mission = I stayed up all night IRL. srsly. BW had me in their grasp. /shakefist
But, let's discuss Tali (even tho' this might get me lynched, ahem)
My two fav. loyalty missions in ME2 are Garrus's and Tali's. It's a very close race for me.
Please to be convincing me that Tali's is better. (Leave the insults at home, please, if they are part of your arsenal.)
I love both missions!!

Im very nearly in the same boat as you, those are my two favorite loyalties and recruitment missions, the main thing that really tips the scale for me, besides Tali, is that there was much more development and dialogue on Tali's loyalty mission. This lent itself to a more emotional impact for me over Garrus's mission. Not saying that his didn't have it but it was far more rushed and seemed under developed I felt that BW could have and should have put more into it, but thats my opinion.

Yup, his didn't have enough dialogue.  Your argument is valid.

[nickFury]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

huntrrz wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

The Prothean statues and the Collectors don't exactly match up. I'd assume that was a transformation that took after the main extermination.

I'm guessing there were Protheans with different physiologies based on their caste, like some insects on Earth.

Or maybe the Reapers just REALLY did a number on them.

Humans and Scions look almost nothing alike. Imagine what hundred of years, or tens of thousands of genetic ****ing could do to you.

This, its the most simple answer that fits the available evidence. Occam's Razor anyone

[FsDxRAGE]

nickFury wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

huntrrz wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

The Prothean statues and the Collectors don't exactly match up. I'd assume that was a transformation that took after the main extermination.

I'm guessing there were Protheans with different physiologies based on their caste, like some insects on Earth.

Or maybe the Reapers just REALLY did a number on them.

Humans and Scions look almost nothing alike. Imagine what hundred of years, or tens of thousands of genetic ****ing could do to you.

This, its the most simple answer that fits the available evidence. Occam's Razor anyone

have you seen Contact?

[RiptideX1090]

nickFury wrote...

kglaser wrote...

Killing Mission = I stayed up all night IRL. srsly. BW had me in their grasp. /shakefist
But, let's discuss Tali (even tho' this might get me lynched, ahem)
My two fav. loyalty missions in ME2 are Garrus's and Tali's. It's a very close race for me.
Please to be convincing me that Tali's is better. (Leave the insults at home, please, if they are part of your arsenal.)
I love both missions!!

Im very nearly in the same boat as you, those are my two favorite loyalties and recruitment missions, the main thing that really tips the scale for me, besides Tali, is that there was much more development and dialogue on Tali's loyalty mission. This lent itself to a more emotional impact for me over Garrus's mission. Not saying that his didn't have it but it was far more rushed and seemed under developed I felt that BW could have and should have put more into it, but thats my opinion.

Honestly? I think it's unfair to compare them. They're both really good missions. With Tali's, you get a sense of family, like your little sister/best friend got into some serious ****, her dad is dead, and she has nobody there for her but you, it brings you together on an emotional level. You feel bad for her, you want to help her. You feel something as she's breaking down. You dont' want her to cry. You don't want her to be alone. You don't want her to be trapped in a fabric prison she hates, or forced to scavenge to prolong a life where people look down on her and mistrust her. She needs more than a father, she needs a friend. Someone who cares about her enough to stand up for her when nobody else will.

With Garrus, you get a similar experience, but a different feeling. He's like your brother or best friend, who looks up to you, and when you were gone, tried to be like you. He lost everything. His whole team. Could you imagine if Miranda or Jack killed your ENTIRE team? Tali and Garrus included? It's about revenge. It's about this guy who has been there for you every step of the way, and he has this thing eating at him, turning him into a monster. When you hear his voice cracking, when he's telling you he NEEDS to do this, when he stands up and says he isn't you, that Sidonis needs to die, you get a sense of just how far Garrus has fallen, and that you need to be there as a friend for him. You have to save him from himself.

At the end of the day, you realize that these two people have changed a lot over the past two years, and definately not for the better in some instances. But the feeling you get is the same. They still need you, and you still need them. They know you've got their back, and you know they have yours. You're family to both. That isn't something you can divide between the two. It's not something you can compare. It's different for both, but the value isn't.

[nickFury]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

nickFury wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

huntrrz wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

The Prothean statues and the Collectors don't exactly match up. I'd assume that was a transformation that took after the main extermination.

I'm guessing there were Protheans with different physiologies based on their caste, like some insects on Earth.

Or maybe the Reapers just REALLY did a number on them.

Humans and Scions look almost nothing alike. Imagine what hundred of years, or tens of thousands of genetic ****ing could do to you.

This, its the most simple answer that fits the available evidence. Occam's Razor anyone

have you seen Contact?

Yes but a long long time ago why?
Edit: just had to add this lol

Modifié par nickFury, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:24 .

[huntrrz]

uhdnrt wrote...

ForbiddenQTip wrote...
Also, how do I pronounce your name?

It is a shortening of my two old SN's (UnHolyDragoon & NobodyReadsThis) when I was regularly on different forums about a decade ago. Just shorten it to UHD, word well.

I just read it as "Urdnot".  

[FsDxRAGE]

kglaser wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Tali dancing in that pic is so freaking adorable

I always thought she looked so happy in that pic

when Tali is happy that leads to face melting cuteness

[FsDxRAGE]

well I should get some sleep

Keep it classy

Keelah Se'lai

[nickFury]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

nickFury wrote...

kglaser wrote...

Killing Mission = I stayed up all night IRL. srsly. BW had me in their grasp. /shakefist
But, let's discuss Tali (even tho' this might get me lynched, ahem)
My two fav. loyalty missions in ME2 are Garrus's and Tali's. It's a very close race for me.
Please to be convincing me that Tali's is better. (Leave the insults at home, please, if they are part of your arsenal.)
I love both missions!!

Im very nearly in the same boat as you, those are my two favorite loyalties and recruitment missions, the main thing that really tips the scale for me, besides Tali, is that there was much more development and dialogue on Tali's loyalty mission. This lent itself to a more emotional impact for me over Garrus's mission. Not saying that his didn't have it but it was far more rushed and seemed under developed I felt that BW could have and should have put more into it, but thats my opinion.

*Snip*
With Garrus, you get a similar experience, but a different feeling. He's like your brother or best friend, who looks up to you, and when you were gone, tried to be like you. He lost everything. His whole team. Could you imagine if Miranda or Jack killed your ENTIRE team? Tali and Garrus included? It's about revenge. It's about this guy who has been there for you every step of the way, and he has this thing eating at him, turning him into a monster. When you hear his voice cracking, when he's telling you he NEEDS to do this, when he stands up and says he isn't you, that Sidonis needs to die, you get a sense of just how far Garrus has fallen, and that you need to be there as a friend for him. You have to save him from himself.

At the end of the day, you realize that these two people have changed a lot over the past two years, and definately not for the better in some instances. But the feeling you get is the same. They still need you, and you still need them. They know you've got their back, and you know they have yours. You're family to both. That isn't something you can divide between the two. It's not something you can compare. It's different for both, but the value isn't.

Oh I agree on all counts but I stillo feel that Garrus's mission was understated, it just didn't pack as much feeling into it as I thought it should have, honestly I think I got more from what you just wrote about it *sniffles*, where as Tali's really hit home for me on almost every level you mentioned above(save that I don't think of her as a little sister)

[uhdnrt]

huntrrz wrote...

uhdnrt wrote...

ForbiddenQTip wrote...
Also, how do I pronounce your name?

It is a shortening of my two old SN's (UnHolyDragoon & NobodyReadsThis) when I was regularly on different forums about a decade ago. Just shorten it to UHD, word well.

I just read it as "Urdnot".  

I'm strangely comfortable with it.

[Calculatrice]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

well I should get some sleep
Keep it classy
Keelah Se'lai

*pops out of lurk* Keelah Se'Lai. *slips back into lurk*

[SpatFieya]

Calculatrice wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

well I should get some sleep
Keep it classy
Keelah Se'lai

*pops out of lurk* Keelah Se'Lai. *slips back into lurk*

Damnit, Calc, you blew our cover.

Keelah Se'Lai Rage.

*Goes back to lurking while listening to jazz all smooth like*

[thepringle]

Wow havent checked this thread recently congratz on 9000 pages fellow Tali-mancers!

[Calculatrice]

SpatFieya wrote...

Calculatrice wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

well I should get some sleep
Keep it classy
Keelah Se'lai

*pops out of lurk* Keelah Se'Lai. *slips back into lurk*

Damnit, Calc, you blew our cover.

Keelah Se'Lai Rage.

*Goes back to lurking while listening to jazz all smooth like*

jazz. Bah. Nothing more american that this, Duke.

Modifié par Calculatrice, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:10 .