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[Someone With Mass]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

If you look at it though, Shepard has a truly massive level of cybernetic augmentation. His bones are weaved with nanotubes where they haven't been completely replaced alloy, his muscles reinforced with synthetic fibers, even his nervous system is tapped into cybernetics.

Yes, but that's on the inside of his body.

When I think of "cyborg" I usually start to think about something that has a lot of mechanical parts covering its face and stuff.

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Modifié par Someone With Mass, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:59 .

[uhdnrt]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

If you look at it though, Shepard has a truly massive level of cybernetic augmentation. His bones are weaved with nanotubes where they haven't been completely replaced alloy, his muscles reinforced with synthetic fibers, even his nervous system is tapped into cybernetics.

Not necessarily.  Synthetic does not necessarily imply hardware, just the initial source of the material.  Bio-synthetic fusion would imply human genetic material that was likely made as a "universal" donor that would likely adapt to the genetic code of whoever it was implanted into.  As opposed to cloning. This would speed the process up, as well as reduce the likelihood of the body rejecting the transplants.

if you look at the revolving skeleton in the beginning, and compare the first with the second, there is actually very little of the bone structure that wasn't regrown. And it only shows 3-4 actual cybernetic additions to his skeletal structure.

Overall? He is probably about as modified as a quarian once the bio-synthetics have adapted to his genetic code. Besides, It could be worse.

[Hicrodonma]

Alright I'll drop it. But now I have a goal. I must show my vision in fiction.



Either way I'm thinking you aren't giving the amount of augmentation Shepard received it's due. The for anyone who knows anything of the Shadowrun universe just because the augmentation isn't visible doesn't mean the augmentation isn't significant. Also think about it. His face f*****g glows. Because there are breaks in his skin. If he were to cut himself open enough the guy would glow like a chemlight in the blackest of night.

[Tairis Deamhan]

uhdnrt wrote...

Not necessarily.  Synthetic does not necessarily imply hardware, just the initial source of the material.  Bio-synthetic fusion would imply human genetic material that was likely made as a "universal" donor that would likely adapt to the genetic code of whoever it was implanted into.  As opposed to cloning. This would speed the process up, as well as reduce the likelihood of the body rejecting the transplants.

if you look at the revolving skeleton in the beginning, and compare the first with the second, there is actually very little of the bone structure that wasn't regrown. And it only shows 3-4 actual cybernetic additions to his skeletal structure.

Overall? He is probably about as modified as a quarian once the bio-synthetics have adapted to his genetic code. Besides, It could be worse.

In looking at the skeletons I assumed the lost gaps were bridged with cybernetic components as this seems to be the only explanation for his glowing face. His eyes would also seem to be cybernetic since they glow as well if you got renegade far enough.

And between the skin weave, bone augmentation, and high density muscle enhancments... that seems to be a good bit of whole body cybernetics (since they are increasing his abilities beyond human norms).

[NuclearBuddha]

uhd, part of the address in that link concerns me. LOL.

[uhdnrt]

Hicrodonma wrote...

Alright I'll drop it. But now I have a goal. I must show my vision in fiction.

Either way I'm thinking you aren't giving the amount of augmentation Shepard received it's due. The for anyone who knows anything of the Shadowrun universe just because the augmentation isn't visible doesn't mean the augmentation isn't significant. Also think about it. His face f*****g glows. Because there are breaks in his skin. If he were to cut himself open enough the guy would glow like a chemlight in the blackest of night.

Considering it is Cerberus, it makes you wonder how much Reaper tech is actually in Shepard.

[Someone With Mass]

I'm surprised Shepard was still in one piece and his limbs and guts weren't scattered all over the place.

[NuclearBuddha]

uhdnrt wrote...
Considering it is Cerberus, it makes you wonder how much Reaper tech is actually in Shepard.

Too much, probably.

[uhdnrt]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

uhd, part of the address in that link concerns me. LOL.

It is just a picture.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Nothing dirty either, just an anime character (singular in pic) that has a lot of visible and implied cybernetics.  I saw the word you meant; nothing I can do about it.  It's not in the pic though

[Tairis Deamhan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I'm surprised Shepard was still in one piece and his limbs and guts weren't scattered all over the place.

Well he had the hardsuit to hold him together

[Someone With Mass]

uhdnrt wrote...

Considering it is Cerberus, it makes you wonder how much Reaper tech is actually in Shepard.

Nah, they're saving it for Grayson.

Cerberus.
Cerberus never changes.

[NuclearBuddha]

Someone With Mass wrote...
I'm surprised Shepard was still in one piece and his limbs and guts weren't scattered all over the place.

I kinda figured his armor kept him in one piece.  Or a least in larger pieces.

Edit:  curse you TD!

Modifié par NuclearBuddha, 09 juillet 2010 - 08:08 .

[Someone With Mass]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Well he had the hardsuit to hold him together

I higly doubt that a hardsuit can still be intact after falling down from orbit.

But I guess it has something to do with...*gasp* mass effect fields.

[Tairis Deamhan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Well he had the hardsuit to hold him together

I higly doubt that a hardsuit can still be intact after falling down from orbit.

But I guess it has something to do with...*gasp* mass effect fields.

If the hardsuit disentigrated in orbit then there wouldn't be any of Shepard's gooey bits left at all. It wouldn't be meat and tubes, it'd just be tubes and more tubes.

[NuclearBuddha]

phonypapercut wrote...
The planet I can't remember the name of that he landed on looked like an iceball, which should mean low gravity. And the suit shields might have been active.

Alchera?

[uhdnrt]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

uhdnrt wrote...
Considering it is Cerberus, it makes you wonder how much Reaper tech is actually in Shepard.

Too much, probably.

As an aside, another poster has taken to pronouncing my SN as "urdnot".  Which is not intentional on my part!

Back on topic:  EDI has bits of reaper floating around in her.  Based on one of the newer novels, Cerberus has put reaper tech in humans.  Unknown if this is before or after Project Lazarus.  It is also implied that he has something from the protheans as part of his makeup now, since he can actually use collector weapons (which look like a fusion of organic and robotics).

[Someone With Mass]

phonypapercut wrote...

The planet I can't remember the name of that he landed on looked like an iceball, which should mean low gravity. And the suit shields might have been active.

You're right about the gravity.

0.85 G

I guess that can make a difference.

[uhdnrt]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Well he had the hardsuit to hold him together

I higly doubt that a hardsuit can still be intact after falling down from orbit.

But I guess it has something to do with...*gasp* mass effect fields.

His helmet ends up as a trophy on his desk.  Since the video shows him falling head first, those hardsuits can clearly withstand reentry.  However, it was the cracks in it, and the heat itself, that cooked him.  Not to mention the impact shattering bones.  But the suit?  Probably survived mostly intact until Shepard hit the planet.

edit: Lower gravity or not, it is still a fall from orbit.  The only way he would not have reached terminal velocity is if there was no gravity at all.

Modifié par uhdnrt, 09 juillet 2010 - 08:17 .

[NuclearBuddha]

uhdnrt wrote...
Back on topic:  EDI has bits of reaper floating around in her.  Based on one of the newer novels, Cerberus has put reaper tech in humans.  Unknown if this is before or after Project Lazarus.  It is also implied that he has something from the protheans as part of his makeup now, since he can actually use collector weapons (which look like a fusion of organic and robotics).

I agree with the suspicion that Reaper tech somehow got used on Shep.  After all, part of the Raela story hinged on the idea.

Have to point out that anyone can use the collector AR, though.

[Tairis Deamhan]

Either way, Shepard unquestionably has some hardware in him that is not standard issue.



Actually curious what all Tali could have, have ideas for my own fic but havent fleshed them out yet.

[uhdnrt]

Tali related!  Nina Simone sings a song that would resonate with Tali

[NuclearBuddha]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...
Actually curious what all Tali could have, have ideas for my own fic but havent fleshed them out yet.

Biomonitoring at the very least.  Possibly some sort of deep medigel distribution system.  If I was going to be stuck in a suit, I'd at least consider a link to the nervous system somehow so that I could retain some sense of touch beyond gross pressure.

[uhdnrt]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

uhdnrt wrote...
Back on topic:  EDI has bits of reaper floating around in her.  Based on one of the newer novels, Cerberus has put reaper tech in humans.  Unknown if this is before or after Project Lazarus.  It is also implied that he has something from the protheans as part of his makeup now, since he can actually use collector weapons (which look like a fusion of organic and robotics).

I agree with the suspicion that Reaper tech somehow got used on Shep.  After all, part of the Raela story hinged on the idea.

Have to point out that anyone can use the collector AR, though.

DLC is an invalid argument. Especially for the weapons.  'Sides, what is the codex on the that AR? (never had it, so I don't know)