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RobotNixon

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Kikaimegami wrote...

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And then, they won't let you in if you're not a male or have perfect vision...

Goddamnit.

Ony eye? Nystagmus? Wears glasses?

....not male?

DAMNIT!


On the bright side they sell them in surplus to Military veterans. :happy:

EDIT: Awkward...

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#227527
Ormagodenator

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

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theres more to this?

Why yes, there is actually.

anyone have a link to the rest?

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@Nuclear: Maybe idealistic wasn't the right word. I would say, however, that she was "enthusiastic" about traveling through the galaxy and seeing news places. As an example, I believe if you talk to Tali in a certain place(s) on the Citadel, she says something about "I could get used to living like this." This suggested to me that she found the traveling exciting and a welcome departure from the Flotilla.



In contrast, she really never indicates that she likes the adventure anymore in ME2. Everything's more about the mission. This makes sense.



I'm not sure Tali was ever that much of an idealist (I'm open to evidence, of course, this is off the top of my head). She came from a pretty grungy place ("just a month ago I was on rusty old tug") and while she then got into the adventure of her life, it took her dark places, like nearly getting murdered in an alleyway. I was suggest there was a little naivety rather than idealism (again, the alley meet with Fist's goons).



As for her belief in the Migrant Fleet's political system... I don't know that she ever expresses an opinion on it in ME1. I got the impression that her father was overbearing in ME1, but nothing about the system he was part of


Maybe she doesn't. But there seems to be a stark contrast. Whereas she may not really offer an opinion about the government in ME1 rather than simply stating what they are, in ME2 when she talks about them, it's usually coupled with something negative.

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Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

And then, they won't let you in if you're not a male or have perfect vision...

Goddamnit.

One eye? Nystagmus? Wears glasses?

....not male?

DAMNIT!


Meh.  Who needs depth perception?

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RobotNixon wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

And then, they won't let you in if you're not a male or have perfect vision...

Goddamnit.

Ony eye? Nystagmus? Wears glasses?

....not male?

DAMNIT!


On the bright side they sell them in surplus to Military veterans. :happy:

EDIT: Awkward...

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I'll buy you one for Christmas, Kikai. B)

#227531
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RiptideX1090 wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

That gun is mostly used by the Navy Seals.

You know... I could be a Recruiter. :happy:

Tell me the exact steps I need to go through to get one of my very own.


Well, to my knowledge Navy Seals are chosen, they can't apply.

And they only get in if they survive a training session called Hell Week, which has a 98% drop out rate by the third day.

And then, they won't let you in if you're not a male or have perfect vision...

It's not because they're sexist, its just that guys are bigger than girls... :mellow:


By definition, it's sexist.

Don't need to be a man to be an efficient killer.

One of the most effective snipers in history was a Ukranian Woman. Killed about 400 ****s.

Anyway... we shouldn't disuss this here...


Im thinking its not sexist. Its the same thing the with the standards for firefighters. Male or Female, you need to be at THIS physical condition. Guys just have an easier time at it. How many girls do you think could carry a 200 pound man on thier shoulders while running a flight of stairs?  Its about saving lives. I prefer the capable over having an equal number of men and women.

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RobotNixon wrote...

On the bright side they sell them in surplus to Military veterans. :happy:

Hmm.. so what you're saying, is my brother might actually be useful for something other than pestering me every other day about Fallout 3?

Hmmmmm....

#227533
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cannedcream wrote...
Thank you Rune, Nuke, Kiki, and Mr. President.
That helps.

@Nuke: Ah, that's right. You weren't here yesterday and didn't hear the story of how I'm a ****ing idiot. Somehow, and I'm not 100% SURE how, I managed to corrupt my Juno dial-up software on my laptop. Today after 2 Best Buys, 4 Geek Squad members, and 1 tech support call, no one can figure out just what the hell is work or why the comp will not recognize and call any of the provided numbers. The rest of the computer works fine, just JUST the Juno as far as anyone can tell.
So now I'm stuck with this laptop I got from a friend after she was going to pitch it. This thing does not hold a battery charge, is prone to overheating, and is as loud as a mother-Smurfer, but at least I still haz Internets. Kinda.

Ha ha, oh wow... Juno.

I saw the story.  I lurked about 10 min or so last night and didn't see anything I wanted to jump into.  So I actually got some sleep for once.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Oh, and on the Tali/Miranda thing:

Tali stuck around and worked to please her father, placing more importance on family and duty than happiness.

I don't she did everything for her father. I think she was doing it for the Fleet. Miranda in a way, is similar because she's doing everything for Cerberus/Humanity.

Miranda said "F- it" and bailed.

Wouldn't you? I can't say I blame Miranda for wanting out of that situation.

Their fathers aren't great analogues, either. Miranda's dad sounds like an egomaniac, trying to make a child that is essentially him but sexy (creeeeeeeepy). Tali's dad wasn't doing anything for himself.

Not sure if it's "not anything for himself." Getting Rannoch back isn't only going to benefit Tali.

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RedTracer7 wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

And then, they won't let you in if you're not a male or have perfect vision...

Goddamnit.

One eye? Nystagmus? Wears glasses?

....not male?

DAMNIT!


Meh.  Who needs depth perception?


I actually think using only one eye would HELP with long range shots...

Depth Perception, after a certain range, only gets in the way.

Tali, using a shotgun, must have excellent depth perception. <3

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Collider wrote...

@Nuclear: Maybe idealistic wasn't the right word. I would say, however, that she was "enthusiastic" about traveling through the galaxy and seeing news places. As an example, I believe if you talk to Tali in a certain place(s) on the Citadel, she says something about "I could get used to living like this." This suggested to me that she found the traveling exciting and a welcome departure from the Flotilla.

In contrast, she really never indicates that she likes the adventure anymore in ME2. Everything's more about the mission. This makes sense.


Just to poke into this discussion, I must point out that this seems to make alot of sense.  She lost her almost naive approach to the universe.  As she said herself: "Damn the pilgrimage, without it I never would have know what I was missing..."

#227537
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Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

On the bright side they sell them in surplus to Military veterans. :happy:

Hmm.. so what you're saying, is my brother might actually be useful for something other than pestering me every other day about Fallout 3?

Hmmmmm....


Yes indeedy.

#227538
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Just_mike wrote...


Im thinking its not sexist. Its the same thing the with the standards for firefighters. Male or Female, you need to be at THIS physical condition. Guys just have an easier time at it. How many girls do you think could carry a 200 pound man on thier shoulders while running a flight of stairs?  Its about saving lives. I prefer the capable over having an equal number of men and women.


This is NOT a debate we should have here.

DROP IT.

#227539
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Kikaimegami wrote...

RobotNixon wrote...

On the bright side they sell them in surplus to Military veterans. :happy:

Hmm.. so what you're saying, is my brother might actually be useful for something other than pestering me every other day about Fallout 3?

Hmmmmm....


I want to mod Fallout 3 to have Mass Effect stuff.  I can just see Fawkes as Wrex or Dogmeat as a Varren or Miranda/Jack/Ashley

#227540
RobotNixon

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just_mike wrote...


Im thinking its not sexist. Its the same thing the with the standards for firefighters. Male or Female, you need to be at THIS physical condition. Guys just have an easier time at it. How many girls do you think could carry a 200 pound man on thier shoulders while running a flight of stairs?  Its about saving lives. I prefer the capable over having an equal number of men and women.


This is NOT a debate we should have here.

DROP IT.


Yes, even I will not step into such controversy.

#227541
Tairis Deamhan

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Okay, serious. I hate Biowares blogs. Apparently the Raelia blog is so large it just wont load right. Any links past the half page mark are non-functional.

#227542
Kikaimegami

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

I actually think using only one eye would HELP with long range shots...

Depth Perception, after a certain range, only gets in the way.

Tali, using a shotgun, must have excellent depth perception. <3

From what I understand, you usually close the eye you're not peering down the sights/scope with.

Hah I don't have to close it!

I probably get points reduced for missing my right eye, though. :?

#227543
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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Ha ha, oh wow... Juno.

I saw the story.  I lurked about 10 min or so last night and didn't see anything I wanted to jump into.  So I actually got some sleep for once.


It is my curse.

Well there as nothing interesting because I was busy with computer stuff, thus was not about to inject this thread my my daily recommended douse of vitamin AWESOME! :police:

That was probably what the problem was.

#227544
Tairis Deamhan

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Kikaimegami wrote...

I probably get points reduced for missing my right eye, though. :?


Shoot lefty.

#227545
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Just_mike wrote...

Im thinking its not sexist. Its the same thing the with the standards for firefighters. Male or Female, you need to be at THIS physical condition. Guys just have an easier time at it. How many girls do you think could carry a 200 pound man on thier shoulders while running a flight of stairs?  Its about saving lives. I prefer the capable over having an equal number of men and women.


Here is a simple way to determine if something is sexist or not:

Make a squad of (firefighters, soldiers, ect) completely of women.  Make a squad of the same type completely of men.  When someone calls looking for you to (send out a patrol, save them from their burning house, etc) ask them which squad they want.

I can guarentee which one will be picked more.  Human culture at work.

#227546
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RobotNixon wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just_mike wrote...


Im thinking its not sexist. Its the same thing the with the standards for firefighters. Male or Female, you need to be at THIS physical condition. Guys just have an easier time at it. How many girls do you think could carry a 200 pound man on thier shoulders while running a flight of stairs?  Its about saving lives. I prefer the capable over having an equal number of men and women.


This is NOT a debate we should have here.

DROP IT.


Yes, even I will not step into such controversy.


I dont get what the big deal is but ok...:huh:

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Just_mike wrote...

I want to mod Fallout 3 to have Mass Effect stuff.  I can just see Fawkes as Wrex or Dogmeat as a Varren or Miranda/Jack/Ashley

Fawkes with a Widow.

You know you want it.

Hell, I want it. I know what I might be doing tomorrow. :?

#227548
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Kikaimegami wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

I actually think using only one eye would HELP with long range shots...

Depth Perception, after a certain range, only gets in the way.

Tali, using a shotgun, must have excellent depth perception. <3

From what I understand, you usually close the eye you're not peering down the sights/scope with.

Hah I don't have to close it!

I probably get points reduced for missing my right eye, though. :?


Most guns are lefty friendly these days.

#227549
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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Oh, and on the Tali/Miranda thing:

Tali stuck around and worked to please her father, placing more importance on family and duty than happiness.

Miranda said "F- it" and bailed.

Their fathers aren't great analogues, either. Miranda's dad sounds like an egomaniac, trying to make a child that is essentially him but sexy (creeeeeeeepy). Tali's dad wasn't doing anything for himself.

Miranda is a female clone of her father, so I thinking the father wanted to **** himself.Image IPB

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Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Okay, serious. I hate Biowares blogs. Apparently the Raelia blog is so large it just wont load right. Any links past the half page mark are non-functional.

I got this for a while, too. Just copy and paste into the comments section.
That's pretty much all you can do. :unsure::(