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[BigKahuna25]

i'd say the best weapon against a reaper would be an extremely high energy spinal mount laser. they use KINETIC barriers which would do absolutely nothing against lasers and any sort of point defense would be just as pointless. unless they have some EM shielding that we don't really know about...

[Homebound]

What up Tali thread? Did Tali drop by yet? I heard Legion told her about this massive thread on the extranet dedicated to her that he found while trying to understand organics.

[Kikaimegami]

Just_mike wrote...

What up Tali thread? Did Tali drop by yet? I heard Legion told her about this massive thread on the extranet dedicated to her that he found while trying to understand organics.

zomg did he leave me any messages?

[Lividity Jones]

Collider wrote...

Really, it seems you just like Xen and you want to believe that Tali wouldn't be against it. Tali thought that creating the Geth in the first place was a mistake. Enslaving the Geth AGAIN would seem stupid to Tali, and was exactly her reaction to Xen's schemes. Furthermore, I highly doubt that anything that Xen (or Shepard) will convince Tali that hacking the Geth would be a good idea, instead of just creating the Morning War all over again. Tali would be even more against it after working with Legion.

It seems like you enjoy talking down to people, but I digress.

The point is that we can safely assume that Tali would be against it.

Assuming Xen can actually discover a foolproof method of enslaving the geth, Tali would still be against it in light of them being sentient creatures.

However, that sounds like the sort of thing Bioware would throw at you as a dramatic moment ala Wrex on Virmire.

[RiptideX1090]

Collider wrote...

Really, it seems you just like Xen and you want to believe that Tali wouldn't be against it. Tali thought that creating the Geth in the first place was a mistake. Enslaving the Geth AGAIN would seem stupid to Tali, and was exactly her reaction to Xen's schemes. Furthermore, I highly doubt that anything that Xen (or Shepard) will convince Tali that hacking the Geth would be a good idea, instead of just creating the Morning War all over again. Tali would be even more against it after working with Legion.

Feeling a bit hostile, Collider?

I honestly think you're RIGHT. No need ot get so worked up. I just thought it might be interesting seeing how she'd react to a working weapon... something that's sure to work and put her back on the homeworld.

Stll, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

[Homebound]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

What up Tali thread? Did Tali drop by yet? I heard Legion told her about this massive thread on the extranet dedicated to her that he found while trying to understand organics.

zomg did he leave me any messages?

He mentioned something about nuclear Fallout and modifications to create pasty skinned humans.

[nickFury]

nitefyre410 wrote...

nickFury wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
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Hey i don't want any Evangelion like endings in my  Mass Effect the  ending of that series was mind bending enough.   The Big  epic space battle  nis ot going to the key to beating the Reapers.. Sorry kiddies if we try to  fight them   head up  we'll lose every time hands down.  There is no way they can build the ships needed  for that battle in  that short amount of time.  It took an entire fleet to take down one and He was not the most powerful.  Nope we got figure A. What the Reapers Really are because there not giant flying space squid of  doom.. B. Once  we do that then we can do, what we do best... Kill em.  But throwing  ships  and fleets at them is going be  to like throwing beeps a freight train... good luck with that.  

I just want to point out something here, the battle was not one on one with Sovereign.  It was Sovereign and a gigantic fleet of small and maneuverable geth ships that were on par with the council armies.  The majority of the losses weren't created by Sovereign himself, he did hardly anything.  The only thing the battle proves is that the geth could be a very serious galactic threat if they wanted to be.

The Thanix cannon is a step in the right direction as far as anti-reaper weaponry is concerned, they need to continue working on weapons that can stop the reapers, because as we've seen, they aren't invincible.

  

Wishful thinking,  10,000 dead,  hundreds of ships  destroyed to kill   one  Reaper, one  Reaper. Multiply those numbers out over  say 100, 1000, 10,000,  or however   big their fleet is....  with Just  100 Reapers your take losses that no fleet can hold against.    Thanix cannon is a weapon based of off Reaper,  banking on that is like banking on a trojan  horse.  We know that they want use to use there tech its all part their  plan...    

You could argue the Mirgant Fleet but really most of the ships are junkers, transport and Live ships not military craft.  


   

It all makes sense now Sov wanted to get the **** blown out of it, so we could reverse engineer its tech.

  


So I guess I am the only person the Listen to what  Vigil said about  them taking over Mass Relay system  and shutting it down.. So what makes you think that they can't do that with a gun you reserved engineered... But   I'll be the crazy one  and when  you  are gun proves useless because oh it back fired i will sit back  light one  up  before i join you in hell  AND then i will tell you I told you so.   

That was because they took over the citadel which I believe vigil says is  the heart of the relay network The ability to control the network lies with the citadel not the reapers themselves if this were the case then sov could have lured the fleet away from the citadel with some reaper shenanagins  shut down the relays and taken the citadel unapposed. The reapers also do not posses some magical power to manipulate tech so how exactly will the Thanix be ineffective, im not saying its a bad ass anit reaper weapon because its not, its not even more powerful than a standard drednoughts MA but it is a step in the write direction.

[Phil725]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

i'd say the best weapon against a reaper would be an extremely high energy spinal mount laser. they use KINETIC barriers which would do absolutely nothing against lasers and any sort of point defense would be just as pointless. unless they have some EM shielding that we don't really know about...

My thinking is that kinetic barriers in general would be useless against a weapon like the thanix cannon.  If something like that is true, suddenly the reapers are a lot less invincible.  Even if its only less effective, scenes like the one with the Alliance fleet constantly bombarding Sovereign's shields should be a thing of the past.

[Kikaimegami]

Man, nobody could hack those Thanix Cannons as much as Garrus calibrates the damned things. That's why he's always calibrating them, you know. It's to keep the Reapers out of his stuff.

[Homebound]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Really, it seems you just like Xen and you want to believe that Tali wouldn't be against it. Tali thought that creating the Geth in the first place was a mistake. Enslaving the Geth AGAIN would seem stupid to Tali, and was exactly her reaction to Xen's schemes. Furthermore, I highly doubt that anything that Xen (or Shepard) will convince Tali that hacking the Geth would be a good idea, instead of just creating the Morning War all over again. Tali would be even more against it after working with Legion.

Feeling a bit hostile, Collider?

I honestly think you're RIGHT. No need ot get so worked up. I just thought it might be interesting seeing how she'd react to a working weapon... something that's sure to work and put her back on the homeworld.

Stll, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

So..If Tali had a dues ex machina that can kill off the Geth and reclaim her homeworld, would she use it?

[RiptideX1090]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Man, nobody could hack those Thanix Cannons as much as Garrus calibrates the damned things. That's why he's always calibrating them, you know. It's to keep the Reapers out of his stuff.

You dont' **** with Garrus' cannon. His cannon ****s with you. Then he pops the heatsink. With style.

[Collider]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Really, it seems you just like Xen and you want to believe that Tali wouldn't be against it. Tali thought that creating the Geth in the first place was a mistake. Enslaving the Geth AGAIN would seem stupid to Tali, and was exactly her reaction to Xen's schemes. Furthermore, I highly doubt that anything that Xen (or Shepard) will convince Tali that hacking the Geth would be a good idea, instead of just creating the Morning War all over again. Tali would be even more against it after working with Legion.

Feeling a bit hostile, Collider?

I honestly think you're RIGHT. No need ot get so worked up.

Not worked up this time, Rip. I put words in capitals for effort, rather than some indication that I'm angry.

I just thought it might be interesting seeing how she'd react to a working weapon... something that's sure to work and put her back on the homeworld.

Stll, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

The problem is that it would be hard to prove that such a weapon could be "sure to work." The Quarians I'm sure have had many schemes that were "sure to work" and did not work, and ended up with dead Quarians. Take say...Rael's experiments, which were "sure to work." I don't think Tali wants to take a gamble like that.

[Homebound]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Man, nobody could hack those Thanix Cannons as much as Garrus calibrates the damned things. That's why he's always calibrating them, you know. It's to keep the Reapers out of his stuff.

Sometimes I worry that the Thanix Cannon has a psuedo-endoctrination effect.

[RiptideX1090]

Just_mike wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Really, it seems you just like Xen and you want to believe that Tali wouldn't be against it. Tali thought that creating the Geth in the first place was a mistake. Enslaving the Geth AGAIN would seem stupid to Tali, and was exactly her reaction to Xen's schemes. Furthermore, I highly doubt that anything that Xen (or Shepard) will convince Tali that hacking the Geth would be a good idea, instead of just creating the Morning War all over again. Tali would be even more against it after working with Legion.

Feeling a bit hostile, Collider?

I honestly think you're RIGHT. No need ot get so worked up. I just thought it might be interesting seeing how she'd react to a working weapon... something that's sure to work and put her back on the homeworld.

Stll, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

So..If Tali had a dues ex machina that can kill off the Geth and reclaim her homeworld, would she use it?

That was pretty much my question. I know she's dead set against CREATING the weapon...

But using it once it's made... I don't know.

[Homebound]

Do you think Tali would kill Shepard if it meant ensuring War against the Geth to reclaim the Quarian homeworld?

[BigKahuna25]

Just_mike wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

What up Tali thread? Did Tali drop by yet? I heard Legion told her about this massive thread on the extranet dedicated to her that he found while trying to understand organics.

zomg did he leave me any messages?

He mentioned something about nuclear Fallout and modifications to create pasty skinned humans.

he also mentioned something about los vegas... or maybe a replacement for it... a..... "new vegas"

[Kikaimegami]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

What up Tali thread? Did Tali drop by yet? I heard Legion told her about this massive thread on the extranet dedicated to her that he found while trying to understand organics.

zomg did he leave me any messages?

He mentioned something about nuclear Fallout and modifications to create pasty skinned humans.

he also mentioned something about los vegas... or maybe a replacement for it... a..... "new vegas"

GASP!

[RiptideX1090]

Collider wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Really, it seems you just like Xen and you want to believe that Tali wouldn't be against it. Tali thought that creating the Geth in the first place was a mistake. Enslaving the Geth AGAIN would seem stupid to Tali, and was exactly her reaction to Xen's schemes. Furthermore, I highly doubt that anything that Xen (or Shepard) will convince Tali that hacking the Geth would be a good idea, instead of just creating the Morning War all over again. Tali would be even more against it after working with Legion.

Feeling a bit hostile, Collider?

I honestly think you're RIGHT. No need ot get so worked up.

Not worked up this time, Rip. I put words in capitals for effort, rather than some indication that I'm angry.

I just thought it might be interesting seeing how she'd react to a working weapon... something that's sure to work and put her back on the homeworld.

Stll, I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head.

The problem is that it would be hard to prove that such a weapon could be "sure to work." The Quarians I'm sure have had many schemes that were "sure to work" and did not work, and ended up with dead Quarians. Take say...Rael's experiments, which were "sure to work." I don't think Tali wants to take a gamble like that.

Internet text. It does that.

Anyway, you're right, nothing is sure to work. But assuming it IS. Assuming Xen did something to make it utterly fool proof. Things could get interesting... if nothing else, it would likely be a very dramatic moment in the game...

I'm sure Bioware will add or do something to really make it more of a grey choice... like they're good at doing...

[Kikaimegami]

Just_mike wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Man, nobody could hack those Thanix Cannons as much as Garrus calibrates the damned things. That's why he's always calibrating them, you know. It's to keep the Reapers out of his stuff.

Sometimes I worry that the Thanix Cannon has a psuedo-endoctrination effect.

Yeah, it makes you keep thinking "must calibrate.. muuust caliiibrate"

[nickFury]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

 i'd say the best weapon against a reaper would be an extremely high energy spinal mount laser. they use KINETIC barriers which would do absolutely nothing against lasers and any sort of point defense would be just as pointless. unless they have some EM shielding that we don't really know about...

YESSSSS Lazer lances FTW

[Kikaimegami]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Internet text. It does that.

Anyway, you're right, nothing is sure to work. But assuming it IS. Assuming Xen did something to make it utterly fool proof. Things could get interesting... if nothing else, it would likely be a very dramatic moment in the game...

I'm sure Bioware will add or do something to really make it more of a grey choice... like they're good at doing...

ULB blow it the hell up.

[Homebound]

nickFury wrote...

BigKahuna25 wrote...

 i'd say the best weapon against a reaper would be an extremely high energy spinal mount laser. they use KINETIC barriers which would do absolutely nothing against lasers and any sort of point defense would be just as pointless. unless they have some EM shielding that we don't really know about...

YESSSSS Lazer lances FTW

Better yet, BACON LANCE!!

Pic unrelated to Bacon lance.

[RiptideX1090]

Kikaimegami wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Internet text. It does that.

Anyway, you're right, nothing is sure to work. But assuming it IS. Assuming Xen did something to make it utterly fool proof. Things could get interesting... if nothing else, it would likely be a very dramatic moment in the game...

I'm sure Bioware will add or do something to really make it more of a grey choice... like they're good at doing...

ULB blow it the hell up.

That works.

[Kikaimegami]

I approve of random pic posting if it's that random pic.

[BigKahuna25]

Just_mike wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Man, nobody could hack those Thanix Cannons as much as Garrus calibrates the damned things. That's why he's always calibrating them, you know. It's to keep the Reapers out of his stuff.

Sometimes I worry that the Thanix Cannon has a psuedo-endoctrination effect.

just because a technology has been reverse engineered from reaper teach doesnt mean whatever is built from that knowledge has all the exact properties of a reaper... thats a little like saying since werner von braun helped out nasa with its rockets afer WW2 all the US's advances in space exploration are N*zi and hate jews. oddly thats the second naz! ref i've made tonight...