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[Tairis Deamhan]

uhdnrt wrote...
*snip*
Not by a long shot.

Oh yes, definitely. I really hope for a very rousing Gladiator style speech before the final battle. I should be epic beyond all reason.

[Thelacan]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Yea, think of dialogue as a normal sentence in quotes. But anytime the last sentence in the quotation marks would end in a period, you use a comma instead.

And If the dialogue is prolonged, reducing it to use only quotation marks, then it would end with a period?
Like
"You serious?" he asked
"Yes."

Thanks a lot. These mistakes are exactly what I don't recognize.

[Someone With Mass]

Not to mention that the Thanix cannon was a scaled down version of Sovereign's weapons. And the Reapers' shields cannot withstand anything. Virgil basically said that.

However. Sovereign never used his main gun in the battle of the Citadel. I really don't want to think about what that bad boy can do to ships like dreadnoughts, if just his arm cannons were enough to kill most ships in the Alliance fleet with one round.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 11 juillet 2010 - 02:23 .

[Hicrodonma]

We have a significantly greater chance now. Victory is not assured and we will have to make many sacrifices but the odds are good.

[nitefyre410]

Formis_Sage wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...
*snip*

Wishful thinking,  10,000 dead,  hundreds of ships  destroyed to kill   one  Reaper, one  Reaper. Multiply those numbers out over  say 100, 1000, 10,000,  or however   big their fleet is....  with Just  100 Reapers your take losses that no fleet can hold against.    Thanix cannon is a weapon based of off Reaper,  banking on that is like banking on a trojan  horse.  We know that they want use to use there tech its all part their  plan...    

You could argue the Mirgant Fleet but really most of the ships are junkers, transport and Live ships not military craft. 

I don't know where you're getting that it was facing one reaper.  The fight was against one reaper, who wasn't directly involved in the fight for the most part, and a modern army.  The geth fleet had to account for over 90% of the casualty numbers that you list.  It shows us that any battle is going to have casualties, but it means nothing in the grand scheme of the fight with the reapers.  They won't have a geth army with them the next time.

As far as the Thanix cannon, its based off the reaper weapons, there is no indication anywhere that the reapers are able to stop it.  Its not in the same vein as the mass relays, where the reapers purposely left them for people to find and use, it was tech reverse engineered off of a dead reaper.  Surely they hadn't planned on that happening.  The collector ship showed us how well the reapers defend against heated metal accelerated to relativistic speeds.

How big the reaper fleet is is a large variable.  You could make a case for it being tens of thousands or higher, but all that we know is that its at least close to 300 (I believe there are 292 in the picture at the end.)  Until further proof is given, I'm assuming that for close to the total.

No one's saying it will be easy, but we will have all ships in the galaxy working together, and a lot better weaponry than we had 2 years ago for Sovereign.

No, they won't have the Geth army with them, they will have their own, much bigger and much more dangerous.
I don't think the Reapers are able to stop Thanix cannon just because it's based on their technology.
But think about it, they wanted us to use their technology because then we develop in a way they need. We are using their technology but they are the only one who completely understand it, there is maybe something we don't know about it.

  

I'm just not willing to bank the fate of the galaxy on really big gun  that  may or may not work.  After i saw a  Sovereign re-animated  and mutate  Saren's corpse after he was shot in the head  twice... yeah .  I am not putting all my eggs in the Thanix Cannon basket... 

[Tairis Deamhan]

Thelacan wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

Yea, think of dialogue as a normal sentence in quotes. But anytime the last sentence in the quotation marks would end in a period, you use a comma instead.

And If the dialogue is prolonged, reducing it to use only quotation marks, then it would end with a period?
Like
"You serious?" he asked
"Yes."

Thanks a lot. These mistakes are exactly what I don't recognize.

Correct. If you're not following it with anything, then just write it as a normal sentence in quotes.

[nitefyre410]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Not to mention that the Thanix cannon was a scaled down version of Sovereign's weapons. And the Reapers' shields cannot withstand anything. Virgil basically said that.

However. Sovereign never used his main gun in the battle of the Citadel. I really don't want to think about what that bad boy can do to ships like dreadnoughts, if just his arm cannons were enough to kill most ships in the Alliance fleet with one round.

  

^^^ Agree 

[Hicrodonma]

It is a very nice basket though.

[Thelacan]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...


Correct. If you're not following it with anything, then just write it as a normal sentence in quotes.

How about this then?
"Spectre" the woman stated. Period or punctuation mark?

[Tairis Deamhan]

I wouldn't consider it the deciding factor. But it gives the Council races an significant upgrade in firepower.



Also, remember that the Normandy's thanix cannon is mounted on a frigate. A very advanced frigate, but still a frigate. I think you could harness some amazing destructive potential by turret mounting a battery of those puppies on a battlecruiser.

[Tairis Deamhan]

Thelacan wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...


Correct. If you're not following it with anything, then just write it as a normal sentence in quotes.

How about this then?
"Spectre" the woman stated. Period or punctuation mark?

Comma. It would be:

"Spectre," the woman stated.

Essentially if you're continuing with a description of who is doing the talking, how they are doing it, etc, you use a comma instead of a period because you're not actually ending the sentence. Gotta love english's wierd rules.

[Hicrodonma]

Comma is needed there Thela

[uhdnrt]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Not to mention that the Thanix cannon was a scaled down version of Sovereign's weapons. And the Reapers' shields cannot withstand anything. Virgil basically said that.

However. Sovereign never used his main gun in the battle of the Citadel. I really don't want to think about what that bad boy can do to ships like dreadnoughts, if just his arm cannons were enough to kill most ships in the Alliance fleet with one round.

My guess is that the main cannon on a reaper is similar to the main gun on the collector ships.  A prolonged direct hit, without the type of shielding Tali created, would probably destroy a ship.  However, the chances of it hitting a smaller ship is next to nil.  So it is more of a problem if a Reaper decided to bombard a planet.  That is likely what the main cannon is actually for.

Destroying cities from orbit.

At that, remember that the Normandy might have a bigger engine than most frigates, but it still doesn't have the same power core as a dreadnought. Imagine if a dreadnought the size of the Ascencion had Thanix cannons on t. The power, and number of cannons, would easily put it on par strength wise with a Reaper. Not as maneuverable, but still.

[Thelacan]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...


Essentially if you're continuing with a description of who is doing the talking, how they are doing it, etc, you use a comma instead of a period because you're not actually ending the sentence. Gotta love english's wierd rules.

Alright, now it's clear enough to me. Thanks again! 

[nitefyre410]

Hicrodonma wrote...

It is a very nice basket though.

  

that it is, that it is but i still like to keep an in the whole

[Formis_Sage]

uhdnrt wrote...

Formis_Sage wrote...
Indeed, it was not a fair battle for Citadel Fleet.  Sovereign who had done almost nothing and a small fleet of Heretic ships. Citadel Fleet was smashed by the Geth without Sovereign involved and that was their luck, they was able to live for few minutes longer, because if Sovereign joined the battle it would be much shorter.
He was able to destroy Cruisers by one single shot of his weapons and I'm not counting his Anti-Dreadnought weapon.

So One Reaper + at least 100 000 Reapers and we have another Genocide if we will stand against them in an open battle.

Yes and no. His weaponry is the same as the Normandy SR-2, after upgrades. However, it's rapid fire weaponry was taking apart frigates, not dreadnoughts. If said dreadnoughts are equipped with the Thanix cannons, then the fight becomes much, much more even.

More importantly, the weapons, armor, and shields the SR-2 has are items developed after the battle of the Citadel. Those upgrades alone, if applied to the Citadel fleets, would make the battles closer. Consider that in previous cycles, the reapers had the benefit of surprise. The societies they destroyed had not faced them, and had no opportunity to develop countermeasures to the Reaper tech.

Shepard guaranteed that this is not the case in ME1. Citadel Space is already more prepared than the protheans. And it took a while before the Reapers whiped out the protheans completely.

So if the Citadel fleet has the same armor and cannon as the Normandy, the fights will last longer at the very least. Of course, Tali does give the SR-2 an advantage as the shielding system she upgraded is not available to anyone other than quarians (and possibly geth).

Overall, thanks to Shepard, the current cycle of civilization has a much better chance against the reapers than they did before the events of ME 1 & 2. Will there be heavy losses? Almost guaranteed. However, it is not hopeless.

Not by a long shot.

His weaponry is not the same as Normady SR-2, similiar type because Thanic cannon is based on Reaper technology but Nazara's is much more powerfull.
His "rapid fire weaponry" was taking apart frigates, his cannons was taking apart cruisers and based on informations from wikia - Nazara he has also a weapon probably able to penetrate any onther dreadnough's kinetic bariers with a single shot.
Thanix cannon is indeed based on Reaper technology but it is not yet as effective as their own weapons.

The upgrades that Normandy has, would probably increase our chances but I doubt we will have enough time to apply them on all ships. And I doubt we are the very first race capable of resistance.
Yes, Protheans was able to change singal on which keepers react. But we have no evidence it didn't happen ealier. Repaers could modify the signal countless times.

Yes, it took a while to wipe out all Protheans because Galaxy is huge and Protheans were almost everywhere in it.
Reaper Fleet is not big enough to wipe out whole galaxy in five minutes. Nor trillion of ships wouldn't be able to do that.

And we can't lead war with them because after a few weeks the indoctrination would take it's effect.

[Formis_Sage]

nitefyre410 wrote...

I'm just not willing to bank the fate of the galaxy on really big gun  that  may or may not work.  After i saw a  Sovereign re-animated  and mutate  Saren's corpse after he was shot in the head  twice... yeah .  I am not putting all my eggs in the Thanix Cannon basket... 

Well, I agree with you, even if the Reapers are not able to stop Thanix cannon, we can't base our fate on it.

[Formis_Sage]

uhdnrt wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
Not to mention that the Thanix cannon was a scaled down version of Sovereign's weapons. And the Reapers' shields cannot withstand anything. Virgil basically said that.

However. Sovereign never used his main gun in the battle of the Citadel. I really don't want to think about what that bad boy can do to ships like dreadnoughts, if just his arm cannons were enough to kill most ships in the Alliance fleet with one round.

My guess is that the main cannon on a reaper is similar to the main gun on the collector ships.  A prolonged direct hit, without the type of shielding Tali created, would probably destroy a ship.  However, the chances of it hitting a smaller ship is next to nil.  So it is more of a problem if a Reaper decided to bombard a planet.  That is likely what the main cannon is actually for.

Destroying cities from orbit.

At that, remember that the Normandy might have a bigger engine than most frigates, but it still doesn't have the same power core as a dreadnought. Imagine if a dreadnought the size of the Ascencion had Thanix cannons on t. The power, and number of cannons, would easily put it on par strength wise with a Reaper. Not as maneuverable, but still.

Well, that's maybe true but how many dreadnoughts we have and how many they have...

[Thelacan]

Calinstel wrote...

I'm really guilty of breaking that rule but what the heck.  It's still readable. (I hope)

It is, don't worry about that. 

But myself, I'm quite the perfectionist about everything I do. Plus english ain't my native language, so any critique feedback that helps me to get better is more than welcome.

[nitefyre410]

uhdnrt wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Not to mention that the Thanix cannon was a scaled down version of Sovereign's weapons. And the Reapers' shields cannot withstand anything. Virgil basically said that.

However. Sovereign never used his main gun in the battle of the Citadel. I really don't want to think about what that bad boy can do to ships like dreadnoughts, if just his arm cannons were enough to kill most ships in the Alliance fleet with one round.

My guess is that the main cannon on a reaper is similar to the main gun on the collector ships.  A prolonged direct hit, without the type of shielding Tali created, would probably destroy a ship.  However, the chances of it hitting a smaller ship is next to nil.  So it is more of a problem if a Reaper decided to bombard a planet.  That is likely what the main cannon is actually for.

Destroying cities from orbit.

At that, remember that the Normandy might have a bigger engine than most frigates, but it still doesn't have the same power core as a dreadnought. Imagine if a dreadnought the size of the Ascencion had Thanix cannons on t. The power, and number of cannons, would easily put it on par strength wise with a Reaper. Not as maneuverable, but still.

  

yeah you have point... but a big ass gun is pointless if can hit my target.  

Cpt: This gun is the destroyer of worlds  

*fires main gun, Reapers moves to grid squares to the left*  

Cpt:  Wait IT  moved it was not supposed to move you stay still when I'm firing  the main gun.  


Sorry i have seen too many  Sci fi everything  the  BIG Gun  ultimate gun of evil beings doom on to see it fail comically.  

[Orion1836]

Three words for those wondering how to handle the Reaper fleet:



Black. Hole. Gun.

[Hicrodonma]

As much as I hate the damn blinks we might just need their dreadnoughts.

[Someone With Mass]

uhdnrt wrote...

My guess is that the main cannon on a reaper is similar to the main gun on the collector ships.  A prolonged direct hit, without the type of shielding Tali created, would probably destroy a ship.  However, the chances of it hitting a smaller ship is next to nil.  So it is more of a problem if a Reaper decided to bombard a planet.  That is likely what the main cannon is actually for.

Destroying cities from orbit.

At that, remember that the Normandy might have a bigger engine than most frigates, but it still doesn't have the same power core as a dreadnought. Imagine if a dreadnought the size of the Ascencion had Thanix cannons on t. The power, and number of cannons, would easily put it on par strength wise with a Reaper. Not as maneuverable, but still.

Time for Spacer Shepard to call his mom and say that he bought her a present.

And the theory about Reapers' main guns being there for orbital bombardment can be very possible. But thy can still use them against other ships if they want to. I mean, why waste time with shooting a dreadnought like Destiny Ascension when they can just line up their main guns and probably destroy it instantly.

And Tali's shield upgrade is designed to deflect hard and fast strikes, not to withstand continous fire.

[Thelacan]

Orion1836 wrote...

Three words for those wondering how to handle the Reaper fleet:

Black. Hole. Gun.

I'd put my money on huge Arc projector.

Don't know if it would work in space, though