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[Thelacan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Evasive manouvers won't do anything when you're surrounded by a fleet of hundreds, if not thousands of ships that all have the same kind of weapon that you really don't want them to use on your ship.

Indeed. I'd fear that the Reapers wouldn't stay in a single line. They would ram themselves into the galactic fleet. They can do that, they can pull turns that would shear any other ships in half. Their arm cannons have a large fire arc. Their ME-cores can produce some resilient barriers.

So, if the Reapers play nice and stay in line, we have a chance. But God help us, if they mingle into the fleet.

Modifié par Thelacan, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:06 .

[Tairis Deamhan]

Mostly I think people are ignoring an important details:

Tactical ability. The Reapers don't seem to have any. Sovereign just bludgeoned through the Citadel fleet and got pounded, zapping whatever was around him. Harbinger was in charge of the Collector's but again it was just one big ship. When someone finally got the drop on it Normandy was able to wreck its day.

It seems the Reapers have become so used to their pattern they have never needed to develop tactical brilliance. They rely on surprise and superior technology, throwing the galaxy into chaos so an organized threat can't be brought against them. Virgil even said this: They are powerful, but even Sovereign could not stand against a fleet.

Once the Reaper lost its shields, a single torpedo from the Normandy was able to do catastrophic damage. Humans are also stated to have pioneered the fighter carrier. A fast strike with a large amount of small craft (Normandy-class frigates, fighters) could cause disruption in formations and chaos, followed by a hammer blow from extremely up-gunned cruisers, with dreadnaughts held in reserve as 'line breakers'.

Edit: And actually if they just do the 'swarm' tactic as we see them descending on the galactic plane, that would be ideal for the allied fleet. Send smaller ships into the midst of them, they risk critically damaging each other as ME has already gone out of its way to point out one of the details of space combat: If you shoot and miss, whatever you shot AT the enemy keeps going until it does hit something.

Modifié par Tairis Deamhan, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:07 .

[Someone With Mass]

Okay, about Sovereign's "tactical ability"

What would you do?

Go around swatting flies, or invite your friends to the party?

He probably didn't see the fleet as a threat and just decided to go straight for the Citadel tower. Once he attached himself to it, the "flies" started to annoy him, and then he started to swat them.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:14 .

[FsDxRAGE]

"Your fosta parents ah dead."


if you can name the movie, you get points

Modifié par FsDxRAGE, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:14 .

[Formis_Sage]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...
Mostly I think people are ignoring an important details:

Tactical ability. The Reapers don't seem to have any. Sovereign just bludgeoned through the Citadel fleet and got pounded, zapping whatever was around him. Harbinger was in charge of the Collector's but again it was just one big ship. When someone finally got the drop on it Normandy was able to wreck its day.

It seems the Reapers have become so used to their pattern they have never needed to develop tactical brilliance. They rely on surprise and superior technology, throwing the galaxy into chaos so an organized threat can't be brought against them. Virgil even said this: They are powerful, but even Sovereign could not stand against a fleet.

Once the Reaper lost its shields, a single torpedo from the Normandy was able to do catastrophic damage. Humans are also stated to have pioneered the fighter carrier. A fast strike with a large amount of small craft (Normandy-class frigates, fighters) could cause disruption in formations and chaos, followed by a hammer blow from extremely up-gunned cruisers, with dreadnaughts held in reserve as 'line breakers'.

Edit: And actually if they just do the 'swarm' tactic as we see them descending on the galactic plane, that would be ideal for the allied fleet. Send smaller ships into the midst of them, they risk critically damaging each other as ME has already gone out of its way to point out one of the details of space combat: If you shoot and miss, whatever you shot AT the enemy keeps going until it does hit something.

Well, Nazara flew through them because he want open the Mass Relay, he had Geth to destroy the fleet in the meantime.
And you are right with the "swarm tactic", we'll see.

[nitefyre410]

Guys come one your basing all you strategies off of one fight and one weapon that did not even destroy a Reaper it destroyed their Minions. At this rate we might as well kiss Tali and the Galaxy good bye we all doomed.

[Someone With Mass]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

"Your fosta parents ah dead."


if you can name the movie, you get points

Terminator?

[nitefyre410]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Okay, about Sovereign's "tactical ability"

What would you do?

Go around swatting flies, or invite your friends to the party?

He probably didn't see the fleet as a threat and just decided to go straight for the Citadel tower. Once he attached himself to it, the "flies" started to annoy him, and then he started to swat them.

 

This  guy I like he sees reason 

[FsDxRAGE]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Guys come one your basing all you strategies off of one fight and one weapon that did not even destroy a Reaper it destroyed their Minions. At this rate we might as well kiss Tali and the Galaxy good bye we all doomed.

we are all going to get raped unless Shepard goes in the clutch

[FsDxRAGE]

Someone With Mass wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

"Your fosta parents ah dead."


if you can name the movie, you get points

Terminator?

*brofist*

[Formis_Sage]

Someone With Mass wrote...
Okay, about Sovereign's "tactical ability"

What would you do?

Go around swatting flies, or invite your friends to the party?

He probably didn't see the fleet as a threat and just decided to go straight for the Citadel tower. Once he attached himself to it, the "flies" started to annoy him, and then he started to swat them.

Yeah, something like that.
He lost the accses to the Citadel so when he was fighting with Shepard, he started to shoot at the Fleet too.

[Savakka1]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Guys come one your basing all you strategies off of one fight and one weapon that did not even destroy a Reaper it destroyed their Minions. At this rate we might as well kiss Tali and the Galaxy good bye we all doomed.

There is no other data to base the strategy on.

Modifié par Savakka1, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:18 .

[Someone With Mass]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

"Your fosta parents ah dead."


if you can name the movie, you get points

Terminator?

*brofist*

You're a really funny guy, Sully. That's why I'm going to kill you last."

[nitefyre410]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Guys come one your basing all you strategies off of one fight and one weapon that did not even destroy a Reaper it destroyed their Minions. At this rate we might as well kiss Tali and the Galaxy good bye we all doomed.

we are all going to get raped unless Shepard goes in the clutch

 

yeah it looks like it  rape by a Giant Space Squid of the doom.  now i know what those girls in tentacle porn  got through ... 

[Tairis Deamhan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Okay, about Sovereign's "tactical ability"

What would you do?

Go around swatting flies, or invite your friends to the party?

He probably didn't see the fleet as a threat and just decided to go straight for the Citadel tower. Once he attached himself to it, the "flies" started to annoy him, and then he started to swat them.

No, but Harbinger also used the same tactic with the Collector vessel. Surprise, hit hard with superior tech. When the tables were turned the Collector vessel quickly fell. Obviously not the same technological level, but still doesn't show a high level of tactical acumen.

I mean yes, it is a video game, but we never see any evidence of really advanced tactics from the Reapers or those they are controlling.

And since Reapers don't seem to have support ships it actually seems Normandy style ships would be the best weapon against them. Get in tight, avoid their fire, hit with hard 'alpha strike' style weapons like the Thanix cannon and the heavy torpedos.

[FsDxRAGE]

Someone With Mass wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

"Your fosta parents ah dead."


if you can name the movie, you get points

Terminator?

*brofist*

You're a really funny guy, Sully. That's why I'm going to kill you last."

This is my weak left ahm Sully!

[Formis_Sage]

Well, Shepard will find out some Reaper weakness or we are all screwed in open battle.

[FsDxRAGE]

Formis_Sage wrote...

Well, Shepard will find out some Reaper weakness or we are all screwed in open battle.

He is Shepard, he definatly will. That would be cool if during the whole game, they create a sense of dread and loss of hope

[Formis_Sage]

Now, let's do some on-topic

[Tairis Deamhan]

I honestly feel yet another 'suicide mission' would be a cop out. It seems like the entire theme of this series is that someone needs to 'stand up' and that a united force can stand against anything. That person is always Shepard. Throughout the game you're gaining allies (or strengthening the alliance).

If Shepard has to pull a deus ex Shepard out of his ass at the last minute to blow of the Reapers what was the point? The galaxy hasn't learned anything.

Edit: I actually really like that first one for some reason. not the picture I had envisioned at all, but still.

Modifié par Tairis Deamhan, 11 juillet 2010 - 03:27 .

[Someone With Mass]

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

No, but Harbinger also used the same tactic with the Collector vessel. Surprise, hit hard with superior tech. When the tables were turned the Collector vessel quickly fell. Obviously not the same technological level, but still doesn't show a high level of tactical acumen.

I mean yes, it is a video game, but we never see any evidence of really advanced tactics from the Reapers or those they are controlling.

And since Reapers don't seem to have support ships it actually seems Normandy style ships would be the best weapon against them. Get in tight, avoid their fire, hit with hard 'alpha strike' style weapons like the Thanix cannon and the heavy torpedos.

"Kill one, and one hundred will replace it."

Guess that's what Harbinger is going for.

Also, just because they don't show any signs of battle strategies, doesn't mean they don't know any.

They've been cleansing the galaxy for millions of years. I bet they know a few tricks.

Or maybe they are just so arrogant that they think there's no need to pull off fancy manouvers.

[FsDxRAGE]

What do you think Tali keeps her suit clean with? I mean it is going to start to smell eventually so I imagine she uses some kind of soap to wash with. I wonder if she smells good when she walks by you.

[Someone With Mass]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

What do you think Tali keeps her suit clean with? I mean it is going to start to smell eventually so I imagine she uses some kind of soap to wash with. I wonder if she smells good when she walks by you.

It's likely that the suit has some sort of gel it can use to prevent infections.

I bet it smells something like lavender.

[Tairis Deamhan]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

What do you think Tali keeps her suit clean with? I mean it is going to start to smell eventually so I imagine she uses some kind of soap to wash with. I wonder if she smells good when she walks by you.

I always kind of figured the bathrooms could be auto-sterlized or possibly the medbay, since it does seem logical that some kind of maintenance would need to be done on the suit. I don't think you'd smell anything until she got out of the suit tho, sealed enviroment and all.

Hrm, actually makes me think about quarian heat regulation and how the suit handles it. Do they sweat like humans? Have some other anatomical difference that allows for heat dispersion?