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[RiptideX1090]

Phil725 wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Tairis Deamhan wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Of course.

To each their own.

That's pretty much it. I'm still feeling the light gray/gray blue for my personal preference w/ reflective eyes rathern than true glow.

I think glowing eyes is stupid, frankly. Biologically speaking it makes NO sense at all.

Reflective eyes are good. If they're similar to a cat's and reflect in the dark, I could get into that.

Definitely goes well with the whole sexy quarian predator vibe

We all know Tali is a beast,
and that she's here to feast.
So best hide under your bed,
or she's hump you 'til you're dead. <3<3<3

[uhdnrt]

Runescapeguy9 wrote...

uhdnrt wrote...
I will quickly sum up my opinion of Purple Tali.

Maybe it is because it reminds me to much of those !@#$@#$%@!#$%@#$%@#$%@#$5 papists in the Alliance (night elves). Or maybe, because it reminds me too much of Asari. Either way, it is FAIL.

Few things.
1) Do not threaten to kill Tali because of her skin. I will find you.
2) That is not what I was talking about, I was talking about the 'no reveal' scenario.
3) It doesn't matter what she looks like. Quarians could have different shades of skin just like humans do. You should like her for who she is, not because of what she looks like.

1.) I am not afraid of people on the internets.  Your threats ring hollow.
2.) You needed to clarify then.  And I have stated before, that as long as the actual romance and the story is handled well, I am perfectly fine without her face being revealed.  Would it be epic?  Hells yes.  However, each of the LI needs something equally epic to happen or the cries of favortism will resound.  If they feel it must be ct so that all the LI's get a fair cut of awesome, I am cool with that.
3.) Tentatively agreed.  I have already pointed out my objections to purple/space elf Tali.  Nothing more needs be added at this time.

[Titanium Man]

Someone With Mass wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

I think glowing eyes is stupid, frankly. Biologically speaking it makes NO sense at all.

Reflective eyes are good. If they're similar to a cat's and reflect in the dark, I could get into that.

Yes.

I'm okay with cat-like Tali, as I've said in the past. (No f**king fur, though)

Lusting after a strange alien female is okay, but furries?  Forget that noise!

[RiptideX1090]

Someone With Mass wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

I think glowing eyes is stupid, frankly. Biologically speaking it makes NO sense at all.

Reflective eyes are good. If they're similar to a cat's and reflect in the dark, I could get into that.

Yes.

I'm okay with cat-like/predator Tali, as I've said in the past. (No f**king fur, though)

No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

[uhdnrt]

RiptideX1090 wrote...
No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

Honestly, I could go either way on it myself.  Objections to colorinng aside (not a dealbreaker, just a preference), as long as they don't look like Asari I will be satisfied.

[Phil725]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

I think glowing eyes is stupid, frankly. Biologically speaking it makes NO sense at all.

Reflective eyes are good. If they're similar to a cat's and reflect in the dark, I could get into that.

Yes.

I'm okay with cat-like/predator Tali, as I've said in the past. (No f**king fur, though)

No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

I'm so attached to the idea of soft sensitive skin that I can't even imagine the alternatives personally. 

As far as Grunt, he was talking about their biology I believe, but spine strength.  If people want to use that line to support scales or whatever fine, but its not concrete info for anything.

[Thelacan]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

No fur indeed. And wouldn't believe it would be so if Rannoch is more arid and warmer planet. Like savannah is, the fur would be no-go on a predators.

For Grunt's mention about how quarians aren't so soft, the meaning of the suit wouldn't make sense. How come a quarian in enviro suit would be stronger than a human in a hardsuit? It definetely has to mean their biology.

[Someone With Mass]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

I'm not so sure what to believe myself. If he was taught through pictures, there's no positive way to be sure what he saw, because some of those pictures can be centuries old.

[Kira Shepard]

Thelacan wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

No fur indeed. And wouldn't believe it would be so if Rannoch is more arid and warmer planet. Like savannah is, the fur would be no-go on a predators.

For Grunt's mention about how quarians aren't so soft, the meaning of the suit wouldn't make sense. How come a quarian in enviro suit would be stronger than a human in a hardsuit? It definetely has to mean their biology.

I subscribe to the theory of denser bone structure. 

[RiptideX1090]

Kira Shepard wrote...

Thelacan wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

No fur indeed. And wouldn't believe it would be so if Rannoch is more arid and warmer planet. Like savannah is, the fur would be no-go on a predators.

For Grunt's mention about how quarians aren't so soft, the meaning of the suit wouldn't make sense. How come a quarian in enviro suit would be stronger than a human in a hardsuit? It definetely has to mean their biology.

I subscribe to the theory of denser bone structure. 

Dense bone and muscle makes a lot of sense. Drell have dense muscle. And Quarians have such thin, wirey arms, they have to have something going for them in that area. I believe I went into this in the Relationship Guide...

[Thelacan]

Kira Shepard wrote...

I subscribe to the theory of denser bone structure. 

That or denser muscles.
But quarians don't have much of a fat, if any at all. Don't know if they did have more fat in their bodies when living on Rannoch, having more diverse nutrition.

[Phil725]

Thelacan wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

No fur...

I'd be fine with long, slender plates though. Assuming Grunt wasn't talking about Quarian suits when he said they weren't soft. I know most disagree... but I'm fairly sure he was talking about their biology.

No fur indeed. And wouldn't believe it would be so if Rannoch is more arid and warmer planet. Like savannah is, the fur would be no-go on a predators.

For Grunt's mention about how quarians aren't so soft, the meaning of the suit wouldn't make sense. How come a quarian in enviro suit would be stronger than a human in a hardsuit? It definetely has to mean their biology.

The suit explanation for Grunt's line is that all Grunt knows is war data implanted into his head from Okeer.  He's not talking about hugging different races, he's talking about which ones are easiest to jam a knife through their spines.  Humans and asari likely fall into two categories, every day situations, and war situations.  Quarians meanwhile, only have one version that's relevant to Grunt, and that's with the envirosuit on.  He likely wouldn't know how hard a quarian without a suit on is to stab because its useless information, he's never going to see one.  I assume Grunt was talking about a non combat situation, like a bar fight personally.  In that case, humans and asari would be easy to stab, while quarians (their suits should be very resistant to knives for obvious reasons,) and turians (who always wear armor, similar to quarians,) would be harder.

If you don't buy the suit argument, its conceivable that he was talking about strictly bone density.  Quarians having a stronger skeleton than humans/asari is believable, maybe even likely, given their skinny arms don't seem to hamper them in any way.

The skin argument is pretty much the last thing I would expect Grunt to be talking about personally, its pretty irrelevant unless it would offer significant resistance, and that just seems very unlikely to me.

[Someone With Mass]

All you have to do these days to...err, neutralize a quarian is to pistol whip a very sensitive spot.

The visor.

After that, it's simply a matter of choosing how to continue.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 12 juillet 2010 - 12:57 .

[Homebound]

Someone With Mass wrote...

All you have to do these days to...err, neutralize a quarian is to pistol whip a very sensitive spot.

The visor.

Tali ate a rocket and died in my first playthrough of ME2 when we were closing the door.  Her visor was 100% still intact.

Props to Quarian Visors. So durable, you'll die first before it breaks.

[Thelacan]

Phil725 wrote...


The suit explanation for Grunt's line is that all Grunt knows is war data implanted into his head from Okeer.  *snip*

The skin argument is pretty much the last thing I would expect Grunt to be talking about personally, its pretty irrelevant unless it would offer significant resistance, and that just seems very unlikely to me.

Yes. But how old Okeer was exactly? Or those images he taught Grunt with. Those could easily pre-date the morning war.

And I wasn't saying anything about the skin, but the biology, either bone structure or muscles are more densier than any other races have. And it would make sense.
The suit, no. Again, why wouldn't someone in a combat armor be stronger. Bar fight? Bouncers could easily wear full-body "bullet/knife"proof outfits. The envirosuit? Just bash your fist into the visor and it should be more or less over with it. The suit can't have that much of armor and it couldn't be so strong on itself when it needs to be flexible and, snug.

[Homebound]

Ever won a sizable amount of money in the lottery and realize that you were still poor?

[Someone With Mass]

Just_mike wrote...

Tali ate a rocket and died in my first playthrough of ME2 when we were closing the door.  Her visor was 100% still intact.

Props to Quarian Visors. So durable, you'll die first before it breaks.

Game limitations. I don't think BW would waste their time to make an animation of her visor being shattered.

And there's a good example of the pistol whip technique in Ascension, but I won't go into details.

[Homebound]

Thelacan wrote...

Phil725 wrote...


The suit explanation for Grunt's line is that all Grunt knows is war data implanted into his head from Okeer.  *snip*

The skin argument is pretty much the last thing I would expect Grunt to be talking about personally, its pretty irrelevant unless it would offer significant resistance, and that just seems very unlikely to me.

Yes. But how old Okeer was exactly? Or those images he taught Grunt with. Those could easily pre-date the morning war.

And I wasn't saying anything about the skin, but the biology, either bone structure or muscles are more densier than any other races have. And it would make sense.
The suit, no. Again, why wouldn't someone in a combat armor be stronger. Bar fight? Bouncers could easily wear full-body "bullet/knife"proof outfits. The envirosuit? Just bash your fist into the visor and it should be more or less over with it. The suit can't have that much of armor and it couldn't be so strong on itself when it needs to be flexible and, snug.

I would argue that since the Quarians lived in a space environment, even with their seemingly "artificial gravity", it seems to me, their race has atrophied from the lack of a real planet to live on.

[Thelacan]

 It's finally done and finished!

A cold day on Noveria, chapter six!

***

”Tali left the Normandy?” she asked, overwhelmed by what she had heard from the pilot. ”What the hell did you say to her!”
”Williams, not now,” Shepard barked tiredly, the situation with Tali filling his exhausted mind. ”We got other problems to take care first,” he continued and gestured outside Lorik's office, Ashley glanced over her shoulder, seeing how Wrex patted his shotgun eagerly, looking at the new group of troublemakers with a destructive desire. 
As Shepard's omnitool beeped to indicate that the download was complete, he strode out with his blood boiling inside. He could feel how the gunshot wound in his shoulder started to get moist again, the medigel he had smeared starting to fail. Under the constant movement and stress, the skin didn't have time to heal yet. With a gritted teeth he rushed past the krogan to meet the group, taking immediate note that the small group of humans, five of them and one turian was waiting for them.

***

Go and read it! Then rip it to shreds! *Rraaaahh!* 

[Homebound]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

Tali ate a rocket and died in my first playthrough of ME2 when we were closing the door.  Her visor was 100% still intact.

Props to Quarian Visors. So durable, you'll die first before it breaks.

Game limitations. I don't think BW would waste their time to make an animation of her visor being shattered.

And there's a good example of the pistol whip technique in Ascension, but I won't go into details.

I realized that the Pistol is only good for using the cryo-ammo if you are a soldier. For some reason, the Pistol has the highest chance of freezing something bullet by bullet.

And I dont think it's game limitations. The Visor of a Quarian is harder than the exoskeleton of Sovereign. They shall use this technology on their ships of war.  Imagine, a fleet of giant Tali helmets doing battle with the Reapers.

[Thelacan]

Just_mike wrote...

I would argue that since the Quarians lived in a space environment, even with their seemingly "artificial gravity", it seems to me, their race has atrophied from the lack of a real planet to live on.

I can't find any point in this. Care to elaborate?

[BigKahuna25]

Just_mike wrote...

Ever won a sizable amount of money in the lottery and realize that you were still poor?

if i ever won a sizeable amount of money in a lottery (in the millions) you assh*les would never see me again.

[Homebound]

Thelacan wrote...

Just_mike wrote...

I would argue that since the Quarians lived in a space environment, even with their seemingly "artificial gravity", it seems to me, their race has atrophied from the lack of a real planet to live on.

I can't find any point in this. Care to elaborate?

Generations in space = brittle bones, weak muscles, weak immune system.
Like real astronauts today. Not sure about the immune system bit though, but the first two for sure. I suspect being in space for an extended period of time, will do this. Tech or no tech.

Modifié par Just_mike, 12 juillet 2010 - 01:05 .

[Titanium Man]

Just_mike wrote...
And I dont think it's game limitations. The Visor of a Quarian is harder than the exoskeleton of Sovereign. They shall use this technology on their ships of war.  Imagine, a fleet of giant Tali helmets doing battle with the Reapers.

If Dr. Wily can make a Metool robot with an impenetrable helmet, why doesn't he make a robot out of Metool helmets?