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[Cra5y Pineapple]

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Seen that pic a few times now and everytime I look at Wrex it's all like

"This town ain't big enough for the both of us."

[nitefyre410]

Collider wrote...

Jack doesn't get that much hate on the forum. It's mostly Tali or Miranda. And those who do talk crap about Jack, they are usually Miranda fans.

Garrus has gotten some amount of hate for being "too popular" and "cool." He may be going to the way of Tali eventually. I've already seen some backlash about Garrus' popularity. It's nothing huge, but it's there and seems to be increasing.

 


Got a love hate relationship  with Jack,    Really there is no Crew member that I don't Like. I like the entire cast thats why i want to see everyone come back for Part 3.   It really is Shepherds dirty dozen and is a great team  to take on the  Reapers.  

I have  said that Jack and Miranda are 2 sides of the  same coin. Strip away  different  origins and you have two people who don't trust all...  I just don't get where  people get the idea  that Miranda hates aliens she actually says that She wish Cerberus recruited more people like Shepherd instead of the all the Xenophobes... 

[uhdnrt]

Hating/fearing Aliens is Xenophobia. Initially, Miranda has the galactic version of Ethnocentrism. Huge difference. Xenophobia tends to be an evolution of ethnocentrism (Ashley Williams is on the slippery slope from Ethnocentrism to outright Xenophobia in the beginning of ME1, but she gets better as the game progresses), so they are related issues.

Both are countered by exposure and understanding of the subjects of the ethnocentrism. IE, Shepard's away teams, and how he/she integrates them into both Normandy's, By removing some of the mystery of them, the sense of alienness (for lack of a better term) will fade, and they can be seen as equals (which is the core issue of both Ethnocentrism and Xenophobia - not seeing outsiders as equals).

RW Examples: Both the Irish and the Italians went through this during their immigration waves in the US. The overall population of the US got better about seeing both as less than equal, and both waves of immigrants were eventually accepted as equals (though it took a while).

Modifié par uhdnrt, 14 juillet 2010 - 12:06 .

[Titanium Man]

I'm still bitter that Grunt died leading the second team, and he was LOYAL, while Zaeed got out okay. Miranda wasn't loyal either, how come she bit it and he didn't?



F*** Zaeed.

[Someone With Mass]

Titanium Man wrote...

I'm still bitter that Grunt died leading the second team, and he was LOYAL, while Zaeed got out okay. Miranda wasn't loyal either, how come she bit it and he didn't?

F*** Zaeed.

Guess Grunt was a softie after all...

And pretty much anyone who isn't loyal and isn't in your party is going to kick the bucket.

[uhdnrt]

Titanium Man wrote...

I'm still bitter that Grunt died leading the second team, and he was LOYAL, while Zaeed got out okay. Miranda wasn't loyal either, how come she bit it and he didn't?

F*** Zaeed.

Zaeed, Grunt, and Garrus have the highest "hold the line" quotient, even if not loyal. Loyal, Grunt can hold the line on his own. He is that much of a goddamn wrecking ball.

Just remember from here on out: Alt fire team leaders MUST be Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob to survive (and require loyalty).

As much as I like Garrus, das bro is always my alt team leader in the collector ship. There is no other logical conclusion. The first time I was reading through their descriptions, I had a debate with a roommate about who to take. We stopped at Garrus. Looked at each other, and I could not hammer the 'accept' option fast enough.

[Titanium Man]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I'm still bitter that Grunt died leading the second team, and he was LOYAL, while Zaeed got out okay. Miranda wasn't loyal either, how come she bit it and he didn't?

F*** Zaeed.

Guess Grunt was a softie after all...

And pretty much anyone who isn't loyal and isn't in your party is going to kick the bucket.

But Zaeed wasn't loyal, how come HE made it?  Does he get bonuses for surviving a gun to the face?

[Kikaimegami]

uhdnrt wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I'm still bitter that Grunt died leading the second team, and he was LOYAL, while Zaeed got out okay. Miranda wasn't loyal either, how come she bit it and he didn't?

F*** Zaeed.

Zaeed, Grunt, and Garrus have the highest "hold the line" quotient, even if not loyal. Loyal, Grunt can hold the line on his own. He is that much of a goddamn wrecking ball.

Just remember from here on out: Alt fire team leaders MUST be Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob to survive (and require loyalty).

As much as I like Garrus, das bro is always my alt team leader in the collector ship. There is no other logical conclusion. The first time I was reading through their descriptions, I had a debate with a roommate about who to take. We stopped at Garrus. Looked at each other, and I could not hammer the 'accept' option fast enough.

Yeah, from my very first playthrough, I've always picked Garrus as second team leader. It just makes so much goddamned sense.

Though, I basically consider Garrus my XO instead of Miranda.

Second fire team leader 1 and 2 = Garrus
Tech expert = Tali
Biotic = Samara/Jack
Escort = Mordin
Final team = Garrus/Legion, Tali/Legion, Kasumi/Tali (don't ask)

[Titanium Man]

uhdnrt wrote...

Just remember from here on out: Alt fire team leaders MUST be Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob to survive (and require loyalty).

Garrus came with me because I wanted to ensure he lived.  Miranda went into **** mode after I sided with Jack.  Unless you can use Jacob for both teams.

[Kikaimegami]

Snipers for the final fight = win



Especially Legion with the Widow.



Daaaaaaaaaaaayumn

[uhdnrt]

Titanium Man wrote...
But Zaeed wasn't loyal, how come HE made it?  Does he get bonuses for surviving a gun to the face?

Depending on how many squadies are loyal/disloyal at the 'hold the line' section would determine it.  Only one not loyal, Zaeed might die.  However, he has one of the highest survivability ratings, and having either Grunt or Garrus there pushes it higher.  If Miranda wasn't loyal, everyone else was, and Mordin and Tali weren't at the hold the line, Miranda will always die before Zaeed.

That's just how the hidden statistics work.

[Collider]

Suicide Mission Guide

[Kikaimegami]

Titanium Man wrote...

But Zaeed wasn't loyal, how come HE made it?  Does he get bonuses for surviving a gun to the face?

I think he does get survivability bonuses. I'm pretty sure Miranda and Grunt have high survivability bonuses for holding the line as well, where as Tali and Mordin have the lowest chances of surviving. If you leave either of them, you have to make sure they're loyal or they're going to be toasted.

[uhdnrt]

Titanium Man wrote...
Garrus came with me because I wanted to ensure he lived.  Miranda went into **** mode after I sided with Jack.  Unless you can use Jacob for both teams.

Yes, you can re-use the leaders.  As long as they are loyal.  That's why I choose Garrus both times - the bro will provide.

[Titanium Man]

Collider wrote...

Suicide Mission Guide

I USED this guide.  Had the basics in front of me the whole time and everything.

I'll probably go back later and fix everything up.  Miranda can still get shot for all I care.

Zaeed can get a matching bullet to the face.

[Someone With Mass]

I've always wondered why Team Bland (Jacob and Miranda) can be fire team leaders, when other people who shows great leader potential, like Zaeed, can't.

What makes Jacob so goddamn special?

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 14 juillet 2010 - 12:38 .

[Kikaimegami]

Hence why I really like to take Legion and Tali with me to the final fight and have Mordin escort the crew, because that makes sure the people with the lowest ability to survive holding the line aren't holding the line!



Granted, I also make sure everyone is loyal as well.

[Kikaimegami]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I've always wondered why Team Bland (Jacob and Miranda) can be fire team leaders, when other people who shows great leader potential, like Zaeed, can't be.

What makes Jacob so goddamn special?

Dude.. have you ever listened to Zaeed's stories? Sure, he survives all kinds of stuff, but his team always ends up dead.

[Kikaimegami]

The only time I ever had anyone die was when I sent Mordin through the vents and that was my first playthrough (Zaeed was escort). Every time since, everyone has lived, and I've never read one of those suicide mission guides. It cannot be that hard.

EDIT: T-T-T-TRIIIIIPLE POST

Modifié par Kikaimegami, 14 juillet 2010 - 12:41 .

[Someone With Mass]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Dude.. have you ever listened to Zaeed's stories? Sure, he survives all kinds of stuff, but his team always ends up dead.

Yes, but what makes Jacob better than Zaeed?

That Corsair BS? Please...

[Collider]

Kikaimegami wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I've always wondered why Team Bland (Jacob and Miranda) can be fire team leaders, when other people who shows great leader potential, like Zaeed, can't be.

What makes Jacob so goddamn special?

Dude.. have you ever listened to Zaeed's stories? Sure, he survives all kinds of stuff, but his team always ends up dead.

Yea. People don't catch this and assume old mercenary guy = good leader.

[Kikaimegami]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Dude.. have you ever listened to Zaeed's stories? Sure, he survives all kinds of stuff, but his team always ends up dead.

Yes, but what makes Jacob better than Zaeed?

That Corsair BS? Please...

Probably because he's a calm sort and doesn't take stupid risks.

[Collider]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Kikaimegami wrote...

Dude.. have you ever listened to Zaeed's stories? Sure, he survives all kinds of stuff, but his team always ends up dead.

Yes, but what makes Jacob better than Zaeed?

That Corsair BS? Please...

He was in the alliance or something. It isn't very well explained. Garrus is really the only one that makes sense as a leader tbh.

[Tairis Deamhan]

morn'n Tali thread.

[Kikaimegami]

Collider wrote...

Yea. People don't catch this and assume old mercenary guy = good leader.

The only specialist job I'm comfortable with giving Zaeed is escorting the crew back. He seems to be fine with that as long as he's loyal. Otherwise, he's just there to spit out damage and follow someone better suited to the task of leadership.