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[FsDxRAGE]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Also, whoever introduced me to Sentenced the other day, I love you so much. I got an album of theirs, amazing music.

hmmm
*looks up on youtube*

[InHarmsWay]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

In MY opinion, and let stress that, you're entitled to your own opinion, I'm just presenting mine. Miranda is a Cerberus ****, and Jacob and Kelly are either liars, or ignorant.

Miranda treats Shepard like **** when she first meets him, despite saving his life, then does a heel face turn as soon as you get the ship. I don't buy it. She's just smiling at you to keep you placated. She doesn't have a problem with torture, played straight with what happens to Veetor if you give them to Cerberus. And Jack... she's a total **** to Jack. From their meeting on Purgatory, to the briefing on the Normandy, all the way to the fight. You KNOW she instigated that fight, and if you side with Jack, it becomes even more apparent that this is the case. Instead of apologizing to Jack for the atrocities Cerberus inflicted on her, she insults her and tries to get her kicked of the ship. Jacks' term "Cheerleader" is appropriate in my opinion, a stuck up **** who delights in causing unneeded Drama.

Jacob is either a fool or a liar. Probably both. With Veetor, he tells you Cerberus wont' hurt him. Meet Veetor later, you find out out they drugged him, forced him into a lucid state, and failed to give him food or water, leaving him an insane mess. He hates on Thane for being a mercenary, despite Thane actually trying to do some good in the world, when Jacob himself works for terrorists. Romancing him with a Femshep also leads to some interesting Dialogue. If you show too much concern for him, he tells you to get lost and go get it on with Garrus, who he refers to as a bleeding heart. Break up with him for Garrus, and he calls Garrus a Cuddlebone it what is CLEARLY a derrogotory way. Add to that his comment aboud AI to Tali in the Comm Room, and suddenly his popularity drops. Miranda and Jacob are terrorists, and it seems they somehow go out of their way to pick fights or insult every other member of the ship.

**** them.

Holy ****ing ****. I didn't think I could hate them any more than I did.

This is going to be a long post.

Miranda did seem to come off as two-faced to me. She calls Shepard the galaxy's only hope in the first few minutes of the game and then twenty minutes later she treats you like crap. That really pissed me off. Then she acts all "Yes, Commander, whatever you say" on the ship. She undermines your authority (which would be grounds for court martial in the Alliance) at every step of the way:

1. Aggravates the Quarian squad on Freedom's Progress.(I wanted a renegade interrupt there.) "That's not how I would explain it. It was nothing personal." This is bull**** if you read the second ME book. The Quarians explained it exactly right. Considering you would want to avoid a fight, especially considering their history, and get on with the mission, it would have been smart to stay quiet and let the Commanding Officer (Shepard) who has a history with the squad leader to handle the situation instead of escalating it. Which it did when the Quarian squad left Tali. ending up killing the soldiers. Yes I blame her.

2. Same mission. Tells Shepard (her CO) to grab Veetor and go despite Veetor being completely insane. Anyone with a basic understanding of intel gathering would realize that they would get, at best, no good intel, or at worse, terrible and false intel. This is again undermining your authority.

3. While recruiting Jack, she asks for access to Cerberus files. The Illusive Man tells you to use whatever means to recruit these people. You agree to Jack's terms and Miranda will argue with you that you (the CO of the damn mission) are not authorize to do that.

4. Back to Lazarus station, executes Wilson. Shepard will chastize her for killing him and logically suggested they should have taken him to be qustioned. Cause just saying he betrayed them all is not a good enough excuse. He could have been working with other traitors. There could have been another faction. Nope. Miranda executes him. Her reasoning? "Too much of a risk." Take away his gun and omni-tool and he's helpless. The guy was shot in the leg earlier. I doubt he would be that huge of a risk. So that was poor judgement there because she created an even bigger risk to Shepard or anyone else of being killed because they killed their only lead!

5. She'll act aggressive towards some of the recruits especially to Jack. This is not a smart move considering she's a super-powered biotic who hates Cerberus. The fact she hasn't tried to kill every crew member is a huge exercise in self-control. Aggravating her on puts the crew and mission at risk.

6. She gives you the worse advice possible during the final run. She'll undermine your authority by making herself the leader of fireteam bravo. And she'll say that any biotic could handle the shielding, which was false. Her advice can kill several people, which is inexcusable for an XO.

I also have no idea what makes her such a good "leader" for the suicide run. From the start you can listen to audio logs from Wilson who describes her as standoffish and never really thankful for any great strides made during the Lazarus project. Yes, I know the project is meant to be as perfect as possible, but having this attitude towards the few people who are able to do this gain puts the whole operation at risk. I'm not expecting her to throw them a party, but being thankful towards some of the progress could go a long way. Might have stopped Wilson from going traitor (if he was).

She shows a distrusts towards many of the crew and does not try to get to know them or gain their trust, which is essential. If you get to the suicide run the crew will make note of it. If Jack is alive, she say that no one wants to take orders from her. To which some of the crew will nod their heads agreeing. If Jack dies on the way, it will be Garrus who will say "I don't want you leading the second team. Barely half of us trust you." He said it right there. For there to be a good team, there has to be trust. Miranda doesn't work towards that end. She then chastize them by saying, "This isn't a popularity contest, lives are at stake. Commander you need a leader who can command loyalty through experience." This counters her argument that she should lead. She led a medical team. That's it. No real team leader experience. Also this is a popularity contest. In this case, who the crew trusts more. Being a genius doesn't mean you can lead.

Miranda even says as much about Shepard that despite all her enhancements, she can't hold a candle to Shepard who may have little to no education. This is why I alwasy picked Garrus to lead. He proven himself to be an excellent leader and tactician. They only reason his team was taken out was due to an elaborate betrayal by Sidonis.

Her arguments for Cerberus experiments were poor as well. She'll argue that the Husks were already dead (yeah after Cerberus planted those dragon teeth), etc. Of course the Rachni would be too smart. The galaxy was attacked by the race. They didn't just teleport around the galaxy. They built starships of their own! Of course they're smart! Also later she'll suggest that you give Legion to Cerberus for research which is retarded if you went through overlord.

In fact the only good advice she gave was wait to build the team before getting the IFF.

Now onto Jacob. He is an idiot. With racist tendacies (didn't know about his views towards Turians, but which makes sense during Garrus' recruit mission where if you leave Jacob behind with Garrus, he showed a lot of resentment to the idea). He doesn't like Turians. Again like Rip mentioned at the beginning of the game with Veetor. Again poor move considering how unbalanced Veetor was. He would have to be completely unaware of Cerberus interrogation methods to say he wouldn't be hurt, considering what happened in the second ME book. So this means he was lying. He had no idea what Cerberus would do to him. He lied to a friend of Shepard's to get what he wants.

He shows a disgusting amount of hyprocrisy towards Thane when calling him out for being an assassin, calling him a "precise mercenary". Whereas Jacob is... A mercenary for a terrorist organization. Thanks I'll stick with the assassin.

I wanted to punch his face in when he made the nonchalant suggestion to Tali to introduce herself to EDI the ship's AI. Everyone in the DAMN GALAXY knows that Quarians hate AIs and have a bad history to them. It would be like if your acquaintance (jacob's not my friend) said to your jewish friend to introduce herself to Jeff, the Neo-****. The situation of EDI should have been handled by the CO in a calm, respectable manner.

Later he shows his ineptitude in decision making when he suggests going after the Reaper IFF right away despite making the comment that the crew isn't focused on the mission. So he's willing to rush into a mission right away unprepared. That is poor leadership. Which doesn't make sense to me why he's a candidate for team lead.

He goes further by volunteering himself to go through the vents despite not having any tech skills. He volunteers for ego points. This makes the run suicidal towards himself and the entire fricking team.

How the two managed to save the Council in ME:G is beyond me. So yeah. To summarize. I don't like them. I really did try, but one's arrogant and one's boring as hell. Add on these negative traits that I mentioned from above and that covers it.

Modifié par InHarmsWay, 15 juillet 2010 - 04:02 .

[SpatFieya]

Alphyn wrote...

SpatFieya wrote...

Good stuff, Alphyn.

Thank you.

Any problems with it at all?

I'll send you a PM, I need to go to the store for a bit.

Running low on DP and twizzlers. 

[FsDxRAGE]

epic posts

[Titanium Man]

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

[RiptideX1090]

Harms?



You ****ing said it.



I pretty much agree with that entire post.

[RiptideX1090]

Titanium Man wrote...

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

He knew damn good and well. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

[FsDxRAGE]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Harms?

You ****ing said it.

I pretty much agree with that entire post.

i second this

[FsDxRAGE]

Oh, I saved that epic post

[RiptideX1090]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Oh, I saved that epic post

*brofist*

Good work, comrade.

[Titanium Man]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

He knew damn good and well. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

I do not believe you.  He's not subtle enough to be THAT kind of racist.

[Zuranamee]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

He knew damn good and well. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

Jacob sucks, plain and simple.

[FsDxRAGE]

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

He knew damn good and well. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

Jacob sucks, plain and simple.

he gets a brohug and Garrus the Great gets nothing

[RiptideX1090]

Titanium Man wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

He knew damn good and well. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

I do not believe you.  He's not subtle enough to be THAT kind of racist.

He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He's just like the Illusive Man, hiding bull**** behind a smile. Romance him at least once, and take ALL of the different convo paths. Trust me, it becomes VERY apparent that he hides how he feels about people.

[Someone With Mass]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Harms?

You ****ing said it.

I pretty much agree with that entire post.

i second this

Me three.

[RiptideX1090]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

Zuranamee wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

He knew damn good and well. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

Jacob sucks, plain and simple.

he gets a brohug and Garrus the Great gets nothing

I don't even talk to Jacob or Miranda after I get them anymore...

Honestly... I can find something to love about ANY other squadmate, I'd even be willing to forgive Kaiden and Ash, and help out Liara with her ****... because I still care about them...

But those two... I hate them. I actually HATE them...

And screw Miranda for messing with Jack. That got her on my **** list REALLY fast. What kind of person makes fun of a slave, rape victim, torture victim, and orphan? I mean... SERIOUSLY!?

[Alphyn]

michaelrsa wrote...

Am I the only Talimancer who likes Jacob?

I don't really mind Jacob, he's just an ass sometimes.

Plus, he's so bloody boring I hardly take him anywhere.

[RiptideX1090]

michaelrsa wrote...

Am I the only Talimancer who likes Jacob?

No. I'm sure others out there like him.

[FsDxRAGE]

michaelrsa wrote...

Am I the only Talimancer who likes Jacob?

no

[Zuranamee]

Someone With Mass wrote...

FsDxRAGE wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Harms?

You ****ing said it.

I pretty much agree with that entire post.

i second this

Me three.

We 4th-1327th

[Ormagodenator]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

I think you guys are reading way too much into Jacob. Yeah, I believe some of it, but I honestly don't think it would occur to him that Tali might have an issue with EDI. I don't think he's that...smart :V

He knew damn good and well. Ignorance is NOT an excuse.

I do not believe you.  He's not subtle enough to be THAT kind of racist.

He knew EXACTLY what he was doing. He's just like the Illusive Man, hiding bull**** behind a smile. Romance him at least once, and take ALL of the different convo paths. Trust me, it becomes VERY apparent that he hides how he feels about people.

that's why my femShep goes for Garrus

[Arhka]

Ormagodenator wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

Ormagodenator wrote...

Titanium Man wrote...

Ah, what was the name of that damn fancy car you heard advertised at the Citadel?

www.youtube.com/watch

While not the answer I was looking for...I don't really care XD

It's called the Tenelkont 2185 or something like that.

[Ormagodenator]

Alphyn wrote...

michaelrsa wrote...

Am I the only Talimancer who likes Jacob?

I don't really mind Jacob, he's just an ass sometimes.

Plus, he's so bloody boring I hardly take him anywhere.

agree'd